Pixillin'

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Seriously, I don't know why all the praise for Eliza. If I could, I would rather choose the path of friendship with Eliza. The only thing I don't know is, if you choose the path of friendship with Eliza or the other girls, could they betray you? You could say that what interests me the most about Eliza, is knowing the other powers she acquires after becoming a vampire; so far, only her supernatural strength and enhanced reflexes have been seen. It's not that I hate Eliza, but in this kind of games, I've never liked that girl who "stands out" (let's say that's how it could be said) among other girls; for example, in this case: Eliza. When it comes to these kinds of games I prefer to value all the girls equally, and not talk or praise one more than another. But this is just my humble opinion.
All the stuff the others said. Eliza is really the only Li that makes sense in this. I guess, under other circumstances, Alice might but I really am not the fond of Alice as an adult - and she shouldn't put so much faith in the promises of 10 year olds. If Eliza wasn't around ... I dunno, I'd probably be with the barmaid.
 
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So I basically keep two runs going. Eliza only and full harem. I don't really care about the dark path and I might work on it once the story is closer to finished.
Same for me. I like Alice, I'm thinking about an Alice save, but its hard to get past Eliza. She is so far ahead of the other girls. The dev hit a home run with Eliza. The others not so much.
 
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Eliza and MC also seem to have the same attitude toward one another - for example, if someone tried to hurt MC - and I caught them, it's hard to say what I'd do. If someone so much as suggests the possibility of hurting Eliza, they will die painfully. Hell, I wanted to hurt whatisname for staring at her ass - not intimidate, like do some damage to him.

If someone wanted to hurt Eliza and she caught them, hard to say what she'd do - depends on who it was and the situation probably BUT if someone even suggested hurting MC and she caught them, it would have to be a fast funeral because she would not stop kicking them until the casket was in the ground and there was too much dirt for her to reach them ... and even then they might have to stop her digging them back up so she could hit them some more.
 

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Same for me. I like Alice, I'm thinking about an Alice save, but its hard to get past Eliza. She is so far ahead of the other girls. The dev hit a home run with Eliza. The others not so much.
I think the Dev knew that. I think it was almost intentional, almost. The story had the hero and his girl and it really didn't need anything else except the story. Unfortunately, the AVN space is what it is. There would have been so many complaints if there was only one Li in the game and the MC couldn't fuck everything with a hole in it, so some others got stuck in. They're not nearly as good though because they aren't really there for people who care about the story or the characters, so not as much effort was put in. Even Alice who is sort of part of the story, is pretty awful. She tries to seduce MC while he is in bed with his wounded GF. Picking Alice up and dropping her out the window would not have been unreasonable.
 

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I think the Dev knew that. I think it was almost intentional, almost. The story had the hero and his girl and it really didn't need anything else except the story. Unfortunately, the AVN space is what it is. There would have been so many complaints if there was only one Li in the game and the MC couldn't fuck everything with a hole in it, so some others got stuck in. They're not nearly as good though because they aren't really there for people who care about the story or the characters, so not as much effort was put in. Even Alice who is sort of part of the story, is pretty awful. She tries to seduce MC while he is in bed with his wounded GF. Picking Alice up and dropping her out the window would not have been unreasonable.
I have to replay the scene again but I only played the Alice path once first time was only Eliza. I recall only hearing how bad Alice was in that scene. However when I played it I remember ,the Alice bed scene didn't come across that bad for me compared to what I read about it. But yeah either way she tries to seduce the MC knowing he is with Eliza which isn't a good thing either. Even tho it's kind of common in their culture to have more than 1 lover, still doesn't make it any better.
 
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I think the Dev knew that. I think it was almost intentional, almost. The story had the hero and his girl and it really didn't need anything else except the story. Unfortunately, the AVN space is what it is. There would have been so many complaints if there was only one Li in the game and the MC couldn't fuck everything with a hole in it, so some others got stuck in. They're not nearly as good though because they aren't really there for people who care about the story or the characters, so not as much effort was put in. Even Alice who is sort of part of the story, is pretty awful. She tries to seduce MC while he is in bed with his wounded GF. Picking Alice up and dropping her out the window would not have been unreasonable.
He might have done too well because at this point my priorities in the game are

1) Being with Eliza basically all the time
2) Keeping Eliza safe and happy
3) Building a house with Eliza
4) Doing the occasional adventure work to keep the coffers full (but only with Eliza with me, and we charge a LOT).
5) The whole revenge / who killed my parents / what kind of creature am I ... thing
6) Nope ... that's the whole list everything else is just chores.
 
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I think the Dev knew that. I think it was almost intentional, almost. The story had the hero and his girl and it really didn't need anything else except the story. Unfortunately, the AVN space is what it is. There would have been so many complaints if there was only one Li in the game and the MC couldn't fuck everything with a hole in it, so some others got stuck in. They're not nearly as good though because they aren't really there for people who care about the story or the characters, so not as much effort was put in. Even Alice who is sort of part of the story, is pretty awful. She tries to seduce MC while he is in bed with his wounded GF. Picking Alice up and dropping her out the window would not have been unreasonable.
I seriously doubt the dev added all the other LIs just to appease people. Games with just 1 LI are rare, but there's plenty with only 2-4 main options that have done well. If the dev added more just to broaden the audience, they could have stopped at far fewer than they have. So I strongly believe the dev wants there to be lots.

That said, Eliza is clearly the intended primary partner. The others I'd generally consider secondary or tertiary partners.
 

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I seriously doubt the dev added all the other LIs just to appease people. Games with just 1 LI are rare, but there's plenty with only 2-4 main options that have done well. If the dev added more just to broaden the audience, they could have stopped at far fewer than they have. So I strongly believe the dev wants there to be lots.

That said, Eliza is clearly the intended primary partner. The others I'd generally consider secondary or tertiary partners.
It wouldn't surprise me. I mean I don't know him but devs to all kinds of things to appease people and broaden the audience. As it is, it is a game with one main Li and a ton of side girls and there are quite a few people who don't like that. You don't have to be romantic with the main Li but she'll still be your friend and no one else you're with will have nearly as much content. There are people who complain about that as well. I'm just hoping that we get to take Eliza with us on this big mission that is coming up. I think that part of the reason we keep leaving her behind is so that people have more opportunities to mess around with side girls. Makes it less interesting though for those of us with no interest in the side girls.
 

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While I can't speak for this dev in particular, I know a common practice is to have the main points of a story planned out, with certain characters that are essential, and then you toss in side girls and slice of life stuff to flesh it out. Based on audience reaction, you adapt, giving more time to the girls that seem to be a hit and cutting down on those that don't.

Sabrina comes to mind, the cousin. Seemed to play a minor bit and then a few people spoke up wanting some content with her and now she reappears in the story having to follow a different path in life (the baker) because her original one (the tailor) didn't pan out.

I do think there are way too many women but that's subjective. I don't know why people like Kelly's mom needed to show up again. I really don't know why the latest update just felt like a bunch of repeats of earlier scenes. That's the biggest critique I have with the VN right now, that last update really confused me. Everything else I can shrug off.
 

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While I can't speak for this dev in particular, I know a common practice is to have the main points of a story planned out, with certain characters that are essential, and then you toss in side girls and slice of life stuff to flesh it out. Based on audience reaction, you adapt, giving more time to the girls that seem to be a hit and cutting down on those that don't.

Sabrina comes to mind, the cousin. Seemed to play a minor bit and then a few people spoke up wanting some content with her and now she reappears in the story having to follow a different path in life (the baker) because her original one (the tailor) didn't pan out.

I do think there are way too many women but that's subjective. I don't know why people like Kelly's mom needed to show up again. I really don't know why the latest update just felt like a bunch of repeats of earlier scenes. That's the biggest critique I have with the VN right now, that last update really confused me. Everything else I can shrug off.
Yeh it's almost a grandma's home harem....
 

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just wait till we go to other Kingdoms tho I hope most of those don't stick around, so the harem doesn't grow to big
That's almost worse though. At least people who stick around get something of a story. I mean, I don't really like any of them but at least I've fully pushed most of them onto the "friend" path so they shouldn't be as annoying anymore.
 

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That's almost worse though. At least people who stick around get something of a story. I mean, I don't really like any of them but at least I've fully pushed most of them onto the "friend" path so they shouldn't be as annoying anymore.
eh depends if they are main girls yeah but side girls I don't agree. Which is why im hoping most of them are side girls and only maybe 1 or 2 here and there stick around cause we will be making alliances with others so naturally some will join us.
 

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eh depends if they are main girls yeah but side girls I don't agree. Which is why im hoping most of them are side girls and only maybe 1 or 2 here and there stick around cause we will be making alliances with others so naturally some will join us.
I’d still rather have more Eliza scenes than some more random side girls.
 
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I’d still rather have more Eliza scenes than some more random side girls.
we all would but we know that isn't gonna happen. I actually don't care for most of the side girls in this one tbh. For me they make the harem path be to much as it leads to way to much sex. The only Side girl im okay with is the milk maid Anna.
 

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we all would but we know that isn't gonna happen. I actually don't care for most of the side girls in this one tbh. For me they make the harem path be to much as it leads to way to much sex. The only Side girl im okay with is the milk maid Anna.
Yah. I was just annoyed through the whole journey to get the cup. That’s all I felt about the whole thing “let’s get this over with quickly”. It was just a constant process of saying no to everyone and everything. If Eliza doesn’t come with us, I expect the next 8 months of updates to be the same.
 
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