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MK12MOD1

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Jun 24, 2022
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Bro, relax....
Do what you doing, enjoy fun of creation and a little of Patreon income.
At some point you will have a lot of contest, a lot of feedback and requests and less income and you can actually sit and start doing branches, fixing bugs and little logical mistakes.... or just close the project.
You have only 3 paths - balanced, dom and sub.
You might keep balanced in kinetic story mode, and give to dom and sub 2-3 additional branches.
I am sure this is not that hard.
All interactions with Ash and Tara can be the same with a little of "flavor" in conversations depends on the patch.


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save file location?
 

ass234

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Sep 21, 2019
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I've started registering the source of each picture on my side. Now I just have to find a way to display that properly.
This might be a dumb suggestion Le Stag but could you just have them all numbered 1 - ** and then pics we dont have will just appear as a blank with the number of the pic or a blurred pic with the number overtop?
 
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akki_sky

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This game needs walkthrough because i have no idea that there was such a pic of Ashley and there cowgirl ride pic also. It's looks like Tara made them but how to trigger them
I also don't know how to get this one. But if you want Ashley reverse cowgirl then while texting with Tara, don't ask for her picture. So then if she peek on Ashley, she will send that cowgirl pic and if she peek on Laura, she will send Laura pic. You can get only one pic at time, It can be Tara, Ashley or Laura.
 

bolbolsep

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Sep 13, 2017
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Bro, relax....
Do what you doing, enjoy fun of creation and a little of Patreon income.
At some point you will have a lot of contest, a lot of feedback and requests and less income and you can actually sit and start doing branches, fixing bugs and little logical mistakes.... or just close the project.
You have only 3 paths - balanced, dom and sub.
You might keep balanced in kinetic story mode, and give to dom and sub 2-3 additional branches.
I am sure this is not that hard.
All interactions with Ash and Tara can be the same with a little of "flavor" in conversations depends on the patch.


For everyone else
Save 224 out of 232
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You'll have to share your whole save folder to access all the photos. Thanks!
 

Fyo

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Aug 14, 2017
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This right here is what I was saying.

You have a Dom route that has no Dom in it.

Everything that is said by the MC is the same throughout the whole thing, the only thing that changes is her responses to you. The light blue and purple texts from her.

So, the whole main dialogue is static for the most part... The shit Laura says while having sex is what mainly changes. Some of the shit from the friends change too.

Yup, looks really hard to put an actually Dom path in, explain it all to me all you want.

It's like in your mind her responses is what defines Dom/Sub and that is not true. It's about how the MC acts and controls or doesn't control her. If he's a sub it's like it is right now, she runs wild. If he's a dom, she would not be doing half the shit she is right now unless he is allowing her. Laura sure as shit wouldn't be telling him what to do if he's a dom.
The bar scene with options pops into my mind once again, a Dom MC would have had the option to make her wait and feel sexually frustrated, it's part of being a Dom, might even told her not to cum until she got home and he allowed her.
He might have allowed her to fuck Oliver, but he sure as shit wouldn't have told her to chose what she wanted, that's a balanced response, not Dom or Sub.
When he said no to something on the Dom path it would have been no, not I'm doing it anyway.

You painted yourself into a corner by trying to give options and trying not to give options.
This whole thing would have been much better as a KN with no choices and no talk of Dom/Bal/Sub. Because that's what it is, name one time she listened to him about anything in the whole story when he said no or not to do something (wait he never gets the option to tell her not to do something). The MC HAS to agree to everything Laura says no matter what.

Laura defines the first set of boundaries telling him she will do what she wants to do and that's it. Not on the Dom path would she have done that. Then she says she might or might not tell him about something she does. That's just borderline cheating by not telling the MC.
Then later she says we need to set up some boundaries, and that never happens.
That is why I say you made everything static but the responses when she is having sex with someone or telling him about it. You can not have a static main story line while trying to have three different paths, it doesn't work like that.

Do what you want, your story is flawed the way it is. You don't even need the MC to be honest Laura is just a little slut running around doing what she wants.

The problem is you have a group of people that are only here for the pictures and give two shits about the story. They will defend you and tell you how great everything is and blow smoke right up your ass all day long.
Then you have people like me who will tell you it's flawed, it doesn't make sense.
The choice is yours who you believe and such, but these forums are littered with people telling Devs how great their VN is all because they just want the pictures to wank off too.
Some of us want a good story too, not just AI renders I can do in 5 mins on my own machine. Yes, I do AI art too.

I see so many Devs crash and burn all because they write like shit and keep doing so because the 'I want pictures' crowd makes them feel special. They don't listen to the people actually trying to tell them it's not working or doesn't make sense. Wait for it... Wait for it... I know it's Porn Logic! Right? Of course it is.

You have the potential to have a great great story here with three different paths. You have to put the work in to make it so and it's not as simple as here is what the MC says, oh and we'll change what Laura says to make it different paths.

Let's get one thing right, Laura is not being corrupted, she was a slut to start with. She went from 0 to 60 in about 1.2 seconds, no corruption there. She goes from fucking Nathan two times to, let's get rid of the condoms, hehehe. Oh and let's start thinking about creampies too because why not. Let me get on birth control because that works 100% and protects against all forms of STDs. For how many years did she fuck the MC and always used condoms, she fucks Nathan two times and all that's out the window. Yup she loves the MC, sure... SLUT from the start.

You might not like to hear it, but this VN is dropping the ball, it's a big mess and it's not to late to fix it if you just take the time to iron out the story lines. Make some options that actually matter instead of being an illusion to choice.

Good luck, I really hope it goes well for you.
Could be a little less dramatic but useful critique in this comment that's worth listening to.
 

Silwith

Member
Jan 27, 2021
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This right here is what I was saying.

You have a Dom route that has no Dom in it.

Everything that is said by the MC is the same throughout the whole thing, the only thing that changes is her responses to you. The light blue and purple texts from her.

So, the whole main dialogue is static for the most part... The shit Laura says while having sex is what mainly changes. Some of the shit from the friends change too.

Yup, looks really hard to put an actually Dom path in, explain it all to me all you want.

It's like in your mind her responses is what defines Dom/Sub and that is not true. It's about how the MC acts and controls or doesn't control her. If he's a sub it's like it is right now, she runs wild. If he's a dom, she would not be doing half the shit she is right now unless he is allowing her. Laura sure as shit wouldn't be telling him what to do if he's a dom.
The bar scene with options pops into my mind once again, a Dom MC would have had the option to make her wait and feel sexually frustrated, it's part of being a Dom, might even told her not to cum until she got home and he allowed her.
He might have allowed her to fuck Oliver, but he sure as shit wouldn't have told her to chose what she wanted, that's a balanced response, not Dom or Sub.
When he said no to something on the Dom path it would have been no, not I'm doing it anyway.

You painted yourself into a corner by trying to give options and trying not to give options.
This whole thing would have been much better as a KN with no choices and no talk of Dom/Bal/Sub. Because that's what it is, name one time she listened to him about anything in the whole story when he said no or not to do something (wait he never gets the option to tell her not to do something). The MC HAS to agree to everything Laura says no matter what.

Laura defines the first set of boundaries telling him she will do what she wants to do and that's it. Not on the Dom path would she have done that. Then she says she might or might not tell him about something she does. That's just borderline cheating by not telling the MC.
Then later she says we need to set up some boundaries, and that never happens.
That is why I say you made everything static but the responses when she is having sex with someone or telling him about it. You can not have a static main story line while trying to have three different paths, it doesn't work like that.

Do what you want, your story is flawed the way it is. You don't even need the MC to be honest Laura is just a little slut running around doing what she wants.

The problem is you have a group of people that are only here for the pictures and give two shits about the story. They will defend you and tell you how great everything is and blow smoke right up your ass all day long.
Then you have people like me who will tell you it's flawed, it doesn't make sense.
The choice is yours who you believe and such, but these forums are littered with people telling Devs how great their VN is all because they just want the pictures to wank off too.
Some of us want a good story too, not just AI renders I can do in 5 mins on my own machine. Yes, I do AI art too.

I see so many Devs crash and burn all because they write like shit and keep doing so because the 'I want pictures' crowd makes them feel special. They don't listen to the people actually trying to tell them it's not working or doesn't make sense. Wait for it... Wait for it... I know it's Porn Logic! Right? Of course it is.

You have the potential to have a great great story here with three different paths. You have to put the work in to make it so and it's not as simple as here is what the MC says, oh and we'll change what Laura says to make it different paths.

Let's get one thing right, Laura is not being corrupted, she was a slut to start with. She went from 0 to 60 in about 1.2 seconds, no corruption there. She goes from fucking Nathan two times to, let's get rid of the condoms, hehehe. Oh and let's start thinking about creampies too because why not. Let me get on birth control because that works 100% and protects against all forms of STDs. For how many years did she fuck the MC and always used condoms, she fucks Nathan two times and all that's out the window. Yup she loves the MC, sure... SLUT from the start.

You might not like to hear it, but this VN is dropping the ball, it's a big mess and it's not to late to fix it if you just take the time to iron out the story lines. Make some options that actually matter instead of being an illusion to choice.

Good luck, I really hope it goes well for you.
Looking at his Patreon it seems to go quite well for him, I would listen to those over 1000 Patreons instead of people whining here, because they don't get exactly what they want, too... Kinda a nobrainer honestly. You can have your critique, thats totally fair, but stop pretending you are the messiah that knows what is right and everyone that likes it how is is just too dumb to see real greatness... That whole houlier than thou-attitude does certainly not help making your case...
I would have no qualms betting a good bit that you aren't a patreon, because it's always the guys not wanting to pay that have the biggest mouth about how bad everything is and how they could do better... then do one yourself...
 
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For those asking for a completely different sub or dom path, I'll make it easier on you. Go donate 1000 to his Patreon and ask for it. What you're asking for would require a complete rewrite of every single chapter and duplicates of the chapter files for sub/dom routes. No one has the time for that for a passion project. If you want that, go make your own game. You'll quickly realise how time-consuming that shit is. He's not making enough to burn himself out so that 3 people can stop complaining about a route. He's not a AAA dev team, and the same people complaining about this are the ones that let COD run for 7 games straight with the same textures and a 2 hours campaign. If you don't like it, don't play it. (especially since you're not even paying the dude and you're downloading it for free from here.) Cheers.
 

AcornHunter

Newbie
May 13, 2020
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Looking at his Patreon it seems to go quite well for him, I would listen to those over 1000 Patreons instead of people whining here, because they don't get exactly what they want, too... Kinda a nobrainer honestly. You can have your critique, thats totally fair, but stop pretending you are the messiah that knows what is right and everyone that likes it how is is just too dumb to see real greatness... That whole houlier than thou-attitude does certainly not help making your case...
I would have no qualms betting a good bit that you aren't a patreon, because it's always the guys not wanting to pay that have the biggest mouth about how bad everything is and how they could do better... then do one yourself...
where do you think he getting all those 1000 patreons?
thru google search?
I become patreons myself only after seeing him actually listen and responding to people here
 
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Jlmbey4

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Mar 5, 2023
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just hope there will be lesbian or 3some ffm with ashley or tara because laura become boring now its like the same as the previous ,still love your work
 

Lekereru

New Member
Jul 21, 2019
2
2
That's what will happen with Oliver.

And no, I cannot just "skip scene". Because scenes build up on previous events. They're not independent little stories with no links to any other events. They're consequences of what happened before. If you skip scenes, you don't get more choices. You get the choice to have a story that makes no sense. And as much as some people keep saying they want that, I do not want to do it. I'm not going to butcher my game to give you an illusion of control.
Fair enough. You're very good at this and I'm really enjoying your work, keep doing your thing man.
 
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goldencore

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Jan 29, 2018
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Looking at his Patreon it seems to go quite well for him, I would listen to those over 1000 Patreons instead of people whining here, because they don't get exactly what they want, too... Kinda a nobrainer honestly. You can have your critique, thats totally fair, but stop pretending you are the messiah that knows what is right and everyone that likes it how is is just too dumb to see real greatness... That whole houlier than thou-attitude does certainly not help making your case...
I would have no qualms betting a good bit that you aren't a patreon, because it's always the guys not wanting to pay that have the biggest mouth about how bad everything is and how they could do better... then do one yourself...
You are not even considering one single point of his critique, but just say "Do it better!".
That's exactly the behavior YOU are blaming him for.
Maybe it's too much work to make really different branches, but his points are valid nonetheless.
 
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vmac

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Oct 24, 2017
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Quick question, how do you trigger the secret pictures from tara?
Ive only managed to trigger it on a single run
 

anatoma

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Overview:
Netorase Phone is an adult visual novel about exploring your sexual fantasies with your girlfriend.
The story is told through text messages and pictures, by talking with the various characters.
The game focuses on Netorase / Hotwifing, with mutual consent and respect between all involved parties.
Thread Updated: 2024-09-17
Release Date: 2024-09-10
Developer: Le Stag -
Censored: No
Version: 0.10.3
OS: Windows, Android
Language: English
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Although the tag says animated, haven't seen any
 
4.30 star(s) 91 Votes