Normal size parts.

[Atepomarus]

Do developers really like their male models to have large monster dicks that would kill any woman out there or a woman that can take it without tearing her insides out.
Or do they not have a choice when developing games? Y'all know what I mean. I don't see very many young 15-18 year old boys with foot longs, or small women that have caverns for pussy's in real life.

 

[Hagatagar]

The most common reasons given by developers for the usage of oversized penises are that small sizes can look quite strange or that it's tricky to get the character postures look nice while having sex.


But...

I don't see very many young 15-18 year old boys with foot longs

"See" as in the present tense?

 

[Lewd Asshole]

Most porn is directed to males as they're the main consumers of it and we're visual creatures, we respond better to visual stimuli than to mental stimuli.
If it's supposed to be a more slow burn kind of thing with more story and plot and relationship building and all that jazz then it matters less since the people who are into that are into it for the mental aspect of eroticism, but those are a minority of h-games.

 

[KleptoLizard]

Ignore the title of this video.
The thread just made me think of this, that's all.

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[ZephyrCloack]

Do developers really like their male models to have large monster dicks that would kill any woman out there or a woman that can take it without tearing her insides out.
Or do they not have a choice when developing games? Y'all know what I mean. I don't see very many young 15-18 year old boys with foot longs, or small women that have caverns for pussy's in real life.

They have a choice, yet several titles aren't really focused on something more than visual stimulus as well as the backing audience the ones that actually do pay and support devs might voice their opinion in favor of whatever was introduced if it was or not Big D, Big Boobs, Huge Buts, BBW, so on and so on.

Also chances are those that aren't really into Big D or dicks overall might just ignore that aspect, some audiences are more tolerant than others; and unless it's seen a Dick bulge on the female model it could probably be ignored quite easily.
Some even share the thought it's possible to ignore it completely so ... each one should speak for themselves.

 

[rk-47]

There are quite a few "avg size" sizes, but i would say most are above avg which is around 5.4in, they can go up to 6 or 7 or higher depending on the dev
i would say to exclude certain tags when searching

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

This thread has existed countless times before and will exist countless times after, time is a flat circle.

 

[m00nsh1ne]

I assume the oversize thing is to appease a younger audience. I could be wrong but things like HUGE breats or a HUGE penis tend to be less and less important the older you get. Me personally, everytime I see a game where there are baseball bat sized cocks or Balloon style tits I just groan and move on (unless it's an actually good story or osmething). I much prefer women and men in VN's to be more anatomically correct and believable.

 

[Atemsiel]

A lot of it really is just for the sake of posing. Actual sex doesn't really look great on camera because from 90% of angles it'll look like 2 people kinda just rubbing together, rather than a visible in and out action. It's for the same reason that a lot of male pornstars happen to be schlonged out. If you can provide space for a camera shot while still being technically inserted, then it's easier to get the shots. I can't speak for all devs, I think it's fair to say that most don't make their player characters have massive dicks for some weird fetish reason, it's purely for cinematic reasons. We're all aware of how silly it is, and it's part of why you frequently see characters say stuff like "Oh my god his cock is huge, I swear they're not supposed to be this big". I guess it's some kind of defense against people thinking that we think having footlongs is normal.

On the other side, the huge breasts thing is 100% a fetish thing. I can't think of a single reason to include that other than to appeal to people who like huge breasts. Unless a girl is meant to be able to give a tit job to like 5 guys at once, but that's the only situation I can think of that would be made technically easier by a girl having tits the size of basketballs.

 

[KleptoLizard]

For the game I'm developing there will be ways to calibrate breast size and other things.
So all the NPCs (vanilla, modded or spawned at runtime) will have their bodies pass through filters you can configure yourself.
Using the usual Add/Subtract/Average/Lerp/Min/Max functions you can make things either really realistic or over-the-top per your taste.

Example: A character spawns with a Breast Size rating of 56 but it passes through the filters
Filter 1 averages it between 0 and its current value = 28
Filter 2 subtracts an additional 6 = 22
Filter 3 maxes between 0 and its current value = still 22 since it didn't drop into a negative value

It's complicated but the only way to make (nearly) everyone happy.

 

[Ying Ko]

I must be a super minority here as I prefer content which is well paced, with good character motivations, etc., and I prefer the male protagonist has average or above average sized genitalia. However, I prefer voluptuous heroines who have massive, and I mean MASSIVE, tits and asses.

 

[KleptoLizard]

I must be a super minority here as I prefer content which is well paced, with good character motivations, etc., and I prefer the male protagonist has average or above average sized genitalia. However, I prefer voluptuous heroines who have massive, and I mean MASSIVE, tits and asses.

The silent majority favors larger parts.
On the English and Japanese sides of DLSite the "Big Breasts" tag eclipses all others by miles.
Thing is, when so many people are ordering pepperoni pizza for the group, the few folks who just want a cheese pizza will grumble about it from time to time.
Players / viewers who like everything big don't have anything to complain about since the market is already awash with what we prefer.
It's hard to make everyone happy.

 

[trex999999]

If realistic proportions are a concern, then we certainly can't stop at the dicks.

In fact, we better just throw the whole VN genre into the garbage. There's barely an ounce of realism to be found there, frankly.

Why should art depict the mundane ugliness of reality? A VN about an MC who gets laid once a month if he's lucky? A VN about an average/ugly couple who spend 10 minutes bumping uglies every few days? That's realism ; average and ugly people having infrequent sex in between rather mundane work and social lives.

VNs are about fantasy. For young men, this fantasy is usually some form of "What if I was a super-stud and every woman just couldn't resist me and they had a visceral need for my cock several times daily?" . Which is why harem is the most popular VN genre by far.

I find the horsecock MCs maybe the most believable part of the harem plot. The MC being practically a demi-god at least gives us a consistent reason to believe why so many women would be falling in love with him.

 

[ZephyrCloack]

... Which is why harem is the most popular VN genre by far.

Nice projection but that ain't true, you can even use this Forum data of all currently on-going and completed games.

Currently in F95 the titles that match this criteria are 9695 of those with Harem are 421, in comparison Vaginal Sex has a whooping 4271 titles, male protagonist has 3436 titles, Big Tits has 3009 titles and Female Protagonist has 2326 titles.
Even if you add Group Sex titles to Harem you would still only reach 2159 titles.

So yep not the most popular and considering that there isn't a Big D tag somehow suggests to me there could potential be more Big D titles than male protagonist titles.

 

[trex999999]

Nice projection but that ain't true, you can even use this Forum data of all currently on-going and completed games.

Currently in F95 the titles that match this criteria are 9695 of those with Harem are 421, in comparison Vaginal Sex has a whooping 4271 titles, male protagonist has 3436 titles, Big Tits has 3009 titles and Female Protagonist has 2326 titles.
Even if you add Group Sex titles to Harem you would still only reach 2159 titles.

So yep not the most popular and considering that there isn't a Big D tag somehow suggests to me there could potential be more Big D titles than male protagonist titles.

How many "games" there are does not necessarily reflect their popularity.

Also, many games where the MC fucks a lot of women (who are only fucking him) are not tagged harem. I'm not sure what the official rules are for the harem designation, but I meant games where the MC gets to fuck loads and loads of women and doesn't share.

If you sort by thread views the most popular games are overwhelmingly games of "harem" type. In the top 20, there are 3 which are not "all the girls love the mc and think he's a stud" harem type games. I'm not projecting anything. It's just a fact. The idea that you could tell me I'm projecting while saying that young men want to be desired and have lots of sex is pretty out there, lol.

In any case, the technical popularity of the genre wasn't the crux of my argument. Moreso that the types of games which feature a large dicked MC are indulging male fantasies. Honestly I can't speak for female protagonist games, I'm not entirely sure of the psychology behind the guys who are into that type of stuff, or what kinds of content you can find in those games.

 

[ZephyrCloack]

How many "games" there are does not necessarily reflect their popularity.

Also, many games where the MC fucks a lot of women (who are only fucking him) are not tagged harem. I'm not sure what the official rules are for the harem designation, but I meant games where the MC gets to fuck loads and loads of women and doesn't share.

If you sort by thread views the most popular games are overwhelmingly games of "harem" type. In the top 20, there are 3 which are not "all the girls love the mc and think he's a stud" harem type games. I'm not projecting anything. It's just a fact. The idea that you could tell me I'm projecting while saying that young men want to be desired and have lots of sex is pretty out there, lol.

In any case, the technical popularity of the genre wasn't the crux of my argument. Moreso that the types of games which feature a large dicked MC are indulging male fantasies. Honestly I can't speak for female protagonist games, I'm not entirely sure of the psychology behind the guys who are into that type of stuff, or what kinds of content you can find in those games.

There is a direct correlation to how much product exists to how much it's consumed.
Genre popularity can be measured by the amount of people consuming said content, so it's not a subjective measure.
While also it's a fact devs are able to conclude their projects with financing and completed projects are a direct result of projects that managed to be financed to conclusion. (Regardless of exceptions)

The crux of your argument as well is just partially correct though girls by popular belief don't exist online "girl= guy in real life" when it comes to consumerism they are by far the biggest influential consumers small example:

Your opinion may not be completely untrue since porn industry as a whole could be mainly finance by males, still don't pretend there aren't women that buy porn content.
As far as i know males are just the ones that tend to admit watching porn.


So saying

VNs are about fantasy. For young men, this fantasy is usually some form of "What if I was a super-stud and every woman just couldn't resist me and they had a visceral need for my cock several times daily?"

Is being naive, gal VNs do exist and quite a number of VNs try to target both audiences. If anything that study kinda could suggest VNs aren't for young men at all, but for older man to fantasize about being young.

And by personal experience man just need to fap, context of "what ifs" rarely matter as long as whatever appeals to them is on their minds, could be a panty shot, could be imagining his crush giving a hand, something more or even just a hot girl photo.