NTR and Women

[Wankstaindeluxe]

Where is this idea coming from that women are the primary audience for NTR?

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Why do people believe this? It's very obviously not true.

For one thing, if it was made for women, why would women be the focus of it? NTR heavily focuses on Women being dominated and fucked.

Most Women are STRAIGHT. Why would they be watching it?

Imagine a straight dude watching a guy get tied up and raped by a girl. And he's straight. The camera focuses on the girls too.

Every person pushing this shit can't even list a source for it and it's usually guys pushing it. I've only seen a handful of girls even say they like NTR... Assuming they're talking about the right one. The one that's basically cuckolding, the one with Female Corruption and Male Humiliation. The one that isn't a more exciting guy causes her heart to flutter, the handsome guy instead of her boring husband, Not fucking Titanic (

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But where is this rumor coming from?

 

[Hagatagar]

Appart from certain deep rooted "believes" many of them have regarding woman, it's actually pretty simple.
First of all, they mostly talk about hentai doujinshis/mangas/animes. Nowadays, most of them are written from the girls' perspective, while still completely focused on the female body (the target audience is male after all) and the partner's point of view plays no role in it. Sometimes it's only mentioned that the girl has a partner or he is only shown in one or two small panels.
It's basically just cheating, rape or blackmail. NTR has become a buzzword people slap onto stuff like many others, a 29 year old Milf for example or Incest that tell you those are siblings, but they act like normal schoolmates.

This is how the warped perception that it is for women comes about.

 

[Wankstaindeluxe]

Appart from certain deep rooted "believes" many of them have regarding woman, it's actually pretty simple.

Yeah, should've mentioned a good chunk of the comments were bordering on incel shit. ("Jokes" As they'd call it.)

First of all, they mostly talk about hentai doujinshis/mangas/animes. Nowadays, most of them are written from the girls' perspective, while still completely focused on the female body (the target audience is male after all) and the partner's point of view plays no role in it. Sometimes it's only mentioned that the girl has a partner or he is only shown in one or two small panels.
It's basically just cheating, rape or blackmail. It has become a buzzword like many others, like a 29 year old Milf or Incest that tell you those are siblings, but they act like classmates.

This is how the warped perception that it is for women comes about.

Makes sense. POV and audience are not the same thing. Like with a lot of female protag stories, if the focus is on the girl, it's for men

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

Imagine a straight dude watching a guy get tied up and raped by a girl. And he's straight. The camera focuses on the girls too.

Well, when you put it that way, I can see the appeal. Although a better analogy would be watching a guy get blackmailed or raped by a disgusting old bitch. I don't get your emphasis on "straight" though. Ugly-bastard rape is still straight. It just takes a masochist to enjoy if you're going to self-insert as the victim.

 

[eaudecologne]

Imo they probably aren't that serious about the theory but they're just using it as a way to insult ntr enjoyers. Like how you'd call a straight guy gay to offend him similarly nowadays people use stuff like woman coded as an insult to men's interests. Hehe you're feminine for liking this! Obviously they know it's mostly guys who read or watch this stuff. This is also true for calling things incel some people call everything they don't like about men incel and stuff like that. That's just how words are used on social media in my experience. It's less about the meaning and more about the message if that makes sense.

 

[That other person]

Imo they probably aren't that serious about the theory but they're just using it as a way to insult ntr enjoyers. Like how you'd call a straight guy gay to offend him similarly nowadays people use stuff like woman coded as an insult to men's interests. Hehe you're feminine for liking this! Obviously they know it's mostly guys who read or watch this stuff. This is also true for calling things incel some people call everything they don't like about men incel and stuff like that. That's just how words are used on social media in my experience. It's less about the meaning and more about the message if that makes sense.

Pretty much, that's how social media works, you just put a bunch of keywords and triggers and people start the argument.

Though I never understood the whole "gaying it up" stuff. I know plenty of men and women feel unsure about sharing what they like for this very reason. Plenty of men like romance, and plenty of women like action games, yet not many will say it. It's kind of pathetic that people still use these things as an offense.

Also NTR is just some kinky stuff. Just like watching MLP won't make you gay, NTR won't make you a cuck. I find it saddening that people is stupid enough to use this logic and have it make sense in their head.

 

[morphnet]

Imagine a straight dude watching a guy get tied up and raped by a girl. And he's straight. The camera focuses on the girls too.

That's a genre / sub genre called reverse rape and it's pretty popular.

 

[Saerwen]

Where is this idea coming from that women are the primary audience for NTR?

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Why do people believe this? It's very obviously not true.

For one thing, if it was made for women, why would women be the focus of it? NTR heavily focuses on Women being dominated and fucked.

Most Women are STRAIGHT. Why would they be watching it?

Imagine a straight dude watching a guy get tied up and raped by a girl. And he's straight. The camera focuses on the girls too.

Every person pushing this shit can't even list a source for it and it's usually guys pushing it. I've only seen a handful of girls even say they like NTR... Assuming they're talking about the right one. The one that's basically cuckolding, the one with Female Corruption and Male Humiliation. The one that isn't a more exciting guy causes her heart to flutter, the handsome guy instead of her boring husband, Not fucking Titanic (

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).

But where is this rumor coming from?

Because those guys are so obsessed with NTR that they think women are too. The majority of women doesn't even know what's NTR. I didn't know what it is until I played some Japanese games. The only way I can explain that rumour is if they read women's books and think that NTR is a love triangle between two main male characters and a female protagonist.

 

[Iexist]

Y'see, when a man has a harem or multiple women vying for his attentions, it's just a harem and he's manly and cool. None of the girls are being cucked or anything. No siree. Because women are perfectly ok with sharing a guy if he's manly enough.

If a woman has a harem or multiple men vying for her attentions, then she's a slut and the guys that share her are all cucks. Because no woman is ever hot enough and impressive enough to ever be shared by any "real" men. Clearly.

Given that women also have fantasies of being desired by multiple hot men the same way men have those desires for multiple women, and applying the above "logic" to said desires, then clearly, women are into NTR.

Right? Right?

Don't'cha love double-standards?

In case anyone can't tell, I'm not being particularly serious here. Even though there are indeed people that totally think like this.

More importantly. I wouldn't pay too much attention to idiotic trends in social media. There's always something stupid going on there, and thinking too hard about it will just destroy your sanity and possibly drain your will to live as you're forced to confront the depths of human stupidity over and over again.

 

[Wankstaindeluxe]

Well, when you put it that way, I can see the appeal. Although a better analogy would be watching a guy get blackmailed or raped by a disgusting old bitch. I don't get your emphasis on "straight" though. Ugly-bastard rape is still straight. It just takes a masochist to enjoy if you're going to self-insert as the victim.

Yeah, that's more what I meant.

Imagine watching hentai of a guy getting raped but the camera is on the guy's face.

And my emphasis on straight was that with the focus being on women, men would be the target audience. Women by and large are usually straight, so if it was for them, the focus would be on men

 

[Wankstaindeluxe]

Imo they probably aren't that serious about the theory but they're just using it as a way to insult ntr enjoyers. Like how you'd call a straight guy gay to offend him similarly nowadays people use stuff like woman coded as an insult to men's interests. Hehe you're feminine for liking this! Obviously they know it's mostly guys who read or watch this stuff. This is also true for calling things incel some people call everything they don't like about men incel and stuff like that. That's just how words are used on social media in my experience. It's less about the meaning and more about the message if that makes sense.

Thing is, they actually believe this. A lot of them bring up sources (That I cannot find) or stats like 80% of Women like NTR or 90% of NTR Commissions come from Women. (Reddit post that's gone). They also make comparisons to movies with cheating them like Titanic.

It's either a very elaborate joke or more likely, they actually believe this

 

[eaudecologne]

Thing is, they actually believe this. A lot of them bring up sources (That I cannot find) or stats like 80% of Women like NTR or 90% of NTR Commissions come from Women. (Reddit post that's gone). They also make comparisons to movies with cheating them like Titanic.

It's either a very elaborate joke or more likely, they actually believe this

I don't think so, you know bringing up sources is just what people do on the internet to make your opinion hold more weight. If someone just says "well I don't like ntr enjoyers!" Peoples response will be that's just your opinion man. You cite whatever article and suddenly you appear more serious. But I still hold my position that the argument of it isn't super serious. Calling ntr enjoyers cucks or beta males got old so this is the current angle it seems.

 

[Death Panda]

The primary difference between regular straight porn and NTR is the addition of another male. NTR is for women or male homosexuals, it's just a fact.

 

[agelastos]

The primary difference between regular straight porn and NTR is the addition of another male. NTR is for women or male homosexuals, it's just a fact.

Like MMF and gangbang videos are only for gays and women, right?

 

[Death Panda]

Like MMF and gangbang videos are only for gays and women, right?

If one male starts degrading another male in the same way as in NTR, then yes it would be very gay.

 

[Saerwen]

MissCougar Finuee Jaike your thoughts about NTR for women?

 

[Saerwen]

Thing is, they actually believe this. A lot of them bring up sources (That I cannot find) or stats like 80% of Women like NTR or 90% of NTR Commissions come from Women. (Reddit post that's gone). They also make comparisons to movies with cheating them like Titanic.

It's either a very elaborate joke or more likely, they actually believe this

Men are obsessed with cheating that they see it even in Titanic or Ghost, but then again, what do they even know about love... Why men wants women to like everything men do is beyond me...

 

[Finuee]

MissCougar Finuee Jaike your thoughts about NTR for women?

I don't even get those terms straight, let alone have an opinion lol. I'm always confusing NTR, NTS, and all those very similar terms...

 

[agelastos]

If one male starts degrading another male in the same way as in NTR, then yes it would be very gay.

I need more information. How exactly is it "gay"? Is it because the player's arousal is enhanced by the cuck's humiliation? Is it only "gay" if the player identifies with the cuck? Is it still gay if he identifies with the bull/whoever is doing the fucking, or if he doesn't self-insert at all? If it's about getting off on being degraded/feeling inadequate, is it "gay" if a man's arousal is enhanced by feelings of sexual inadequacy when watching a "superior male" fuck in a regular M/F porn video? If yes, is it because you assume that he secretly wants to have sex with said "superior male"? Also, have you ever heard of psychological projection?

 

[Saerwen]

I need more information. How exactly is it "gay"? Is it because the player's arousal is enhanced by the cuck's humiliation? Is it only "gay" if the player identifies with the cuck? Is it still gay if he identifies with the bull/whoever is doing the fucking, or if he doesn't self-insert at all? If it's about getting off on being degraded/feeling inadequate, is it "gay" if your arousal is enhanced by feelings of sexual inadequacy when you're watching a "superior male" fuck in a regular M/F porn video? If yes, is it because you assume that he secretly wants to have sex with said "superior male"? Also, have you ever heard of psychological projection?

By his logic, straight male players are identifying with female protagonists that they control.