Seeking NTR VNs

Psycho

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Aug 28, 2016
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Recently played Fuyuiro no Muffler and Oyako Rankan

For the first VN I was really surprised that MC's father took the love interest and thought it was great. Bonus points if the girl legitimately falls in love with the father like in Fuyuiro no Muffler. For the second I know the gameplay is unique but I like the idea of other characters competing alongside you for the affection of the love interests you are trying to get.

Any games similar to these in any capacity? I'm also not looking for pure NTR games as I like the option of the main character winning as I think that makes the NTR hits harder imo. Maybe I'm looking for a dating sim with rivals that can win? I'm not too familar with VNs as a whole so any suggestions would be great.

Thanks for the suggestions and they don't need to be in English either.
 
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