VN - Ren'Py - Of Birds and Bees [v1.0] [DiscipleOfVirginia]

Whilst the horror aspects are fairly well done, Of Birds and Bees overall is very bad. The pace is slow yet light-speed rushed, it looks terrible, lewd scenes have no reason to be non-existent, and it seems to be wanting to be a bigwig staple in AVNs by just mentioning Lovecraft in the description.

There's a few bits that I did like. The female models (MC, her co-worker and the lady from the gym) were enticing and the OST was a welcome surprise. Yes, that's it.

Now, there's a bit of renders beyond that grainyness, pace -as mentioned above- was catastrophically sluggish, it kept introducing 300 characters every second which made it impossible to keep up with the story [it really, really wouldn't have hurt to give relevant characters different colours to their name so as to quickly distinguish who's speaking! MC's and her co-worker's colour were the same!!!!! Only one character has a "color =" variable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] and the script just stopped being relevant after the first backroom scene. I will admit I've never read any H.P Lovecraft, but in doing so it's painfully obvious that dev did and that is not a good thing, as that's what happens when you need to come up with buzzwords to draw people in and have then carry everything else, rather than let it speak for itself and have it there as a fly on the wall. Yet my biggest pet peeve wasn't even coming out life but a whole different sport: the lack of punctuation marks. More specifically, a full stop. In Every. Single. Phrase! Why, oh why was it so biblically difficult to just type "." at the end of a phrase!? There's plenty of questions marks, yet no full stop.

I gave this one extra star because of the good things I had to say about this. But it still has one too many stars simply due to the fact that it needed to place the name of a famous author in order to make it stand out, the renders look awful, the story is ultimately boring, the lewd scenes are a molecule of water on the Sun and, all in all, it was very carelessly put together by committing unbelievably avoidable mistakes such as writing.

It wants to be The Office wife( the other sandbox VN with a vaguely similar plot ) but it fails spectacularly at it. the story is disjointed, all over the place, the pacing is risible. Seriously the writing is extremely bad, and being non native english speaker myself, I need to read proper english to understand, otherwise I don't always understand. In this VN it's flat out impossible to understand the dialogues sometimes , We're talking worse than MTL translation there. so many characters are introduced at the same time that after an hour or so, you don't even give a shit anymore .
didn't finish it, but from what I played ( about 2 hours) , it's very bad ( zero smut so far) . IF you want a good corruption VN similar to this one but done well, play the Office wife Renpy port. ( lots of player agency on that one),

Probably repeating the comments of others. The technology behind the novel is definitively an older one. Cannot compete with the current standards given in newer ones. The story is also not so my kind of storylines I'm interested in. So overall average for an older novel, you can watch and decide within an hour, if you want to go on or not

This VN has a looooot of story. I’d estimate at least 20 hours of reading - maybe more - so in terms of content, I really can’t complain.


The story revolves around a young, beautiful woman and a large supporting cast, many of whom get nearly equal screen time. Most of them are caught in a conflict between gods or godlike entities from various cultures, mythologies and religions. This overarching plot occasionally erupts into gory, horror-filled interludes that are quite intense.


On the adult side, the game features a group of lecherous, old, ugly, fat - or all-of-the-above - bastards who are only interested in one thing: dominating, abusing, and fucking the MC and other young girls. There’s also a lesbian subplot with a similar dom/sub dynamic - and naturally, the boring but modest route is still there for the pure-hearted.


My biggest complaint is that the porn feels too detached from the main story. Often, it seems like there are two separate narratives running in parallel - one focused on dark supernatural horror, the other on hardcore corruption porn. I would have preferred a more seamless integration.


Still, if you're into corruption, domination, and ugly bastards doing pretty teens, this VN will probably scratch that itch. Just be aware: between the hot scenes, you’ll be doing a lot of reading. Personally, I found the main story engaging enough to make it worth the time.


Ratings:

• Amount of Content: 5/5
• Horror / Main Story: 4/5
• Writing: 3/5 (Lots of typos and some odd wording here and there)
• Kink Content: 5/5 (Hot as hell)
• Renders: 4/5 (Raytraced, but starting to look a bit dated)
• Scenery: 4/5 (Detailed, though not exceptional)
• Models: 4/5 (Diverse and interesting, but proportions - especially breasts and butts - often look unnatural)
• Music / Sound / FX: 4/5 (Some music felt out of place or distracting)

That gives an average of 4.125

I'll round it down to 4, because for me, the porn and the horror/main story feel too disconnected to fully enjoy them as a unified experience.

Version: 0.9

Story 2/10

This was such a snoorfest I almost fell asleep with my dick in my hand.

Gameplay VN/10

A few choices that appear to be meaningful with A TON OF TEXT.

Renders 6/10

GIrls looked okay but dated at times and the ugly bastards were ugly ofc but looked like they're wearing a fat suit or something, the quality of their models was not good.

Amount of Content 3/10

I commited a sin and used the Skip Unseen Text function to reach some porn cause it was so boring and it was taking way too long. the problem is not the amount but the way it's spread out. The distance between scenes is absolutely massive. (If you actually read the text)

Overall a 2.5 generic VN with a few good female models.

AVNs and horror is a combo that isn't explored much but when it is done well it certainly warrants attention. So that is how i found myself here but unfortunately i didn't enjoy what was presented. The dev has definitely tried to give us a story with a well established background for it's characters and setting but it just doesn't work well enough to be compelling and feels more like a exposition dump rather than world building some of which is very jarring and convoluted to the overall plot

I am guessing the dev isn't a native english speaker which is completely fine but some of the sentence formations make no sense when read out loud , someone needs to help clean up the script cause it fucks with you while you are reading through it

Despite it's glaring flaws it's the horror element that is the strongest aspect of the game which i feel the dev focused most on as it manages to keep up this tense and very eerie feeling all throughout the game , the choice of music also does help in that regard

The characters aren't really easy on the eyes and most feel like they had botched plastic surgery with bloated lips , crazy looking eyebrows and makeup unless ofc it was intentional to make the player feel uncomfortable , if so well done , the renders despite being heavily saturated with this film grain like effect all throughout the game provides a dream like feeling to the whole experience which i feel is a good thing

Overall i commend the dev for trying something different from the rest but the execution leaves a lot to be desired , i might come back to it once it's completed but i doubt this far down the devleopment pipeline it's gonna make much of a difference which is a shame

Whatever you want to say about DiscipleOfVirginia's games, they aren't your generic western porn game slop you typically find around these parts.

The man (or girl) definitely has a type - the sex scenes will almost invariably involve a young feisty PAWG being turned into a sub by a dominant unattractive man or by some sort of mean lesbian - but he (or she) makes quality smut.

But the true reason these games are memorable is the reason I can't give this game 5 stars - the plot. There's an interesting setup in the beginning, he gets a nice lovecratian horror vibe going... and then it turns into a long, overindulgent, convoluted, anime-ass, world-building fever dream; piling up new side-characters, whose names you can't help but forget, by the dozen right until the final chapter. Invariably I begin to lose interest after 5 to 8 hours. I fast-foward to see how long it will be until the next sex scene and am filled with despair, black makeup suddenly streaming down from my trembling eyes as the renders continue to flash before me for what seems like an eternity. Then I altF4 and go watch a Teen Pies video instead.

But I guess I'll give it another try when v0.9 drops as I am no longer capable of using my own imagination to get myself off

The renders are great and that's about it. The story is long and really weird. When all you want is get to the points of the story where there is ntr and sex, it's long even when skipping everything. So much time spent to show a really weird story that mostly nobody wanna hear about. I really wanted to see the scenes but there is no gallery at the time and the game just crashed midway when it was a while since I last saved so it pissed me off.

Agreeing with most of the reviews here. Here's my quick summary as someone who prioritises the porn:

Sexy renders poorly spaced between far too much bloated story.
There is something here for fans of spanking, ugly bastards, and bimbofication (one long scene at the end of Amy's Bimbo route).

That's the summary.

I will also say that the renders at the end of the Bimbo path for Amy are great, and likewise the BDSM segment at the end of Liam's path. The last of Klaudia's scenes offers a great 'classroom' spanking scene too.

You can play all the routes at once - HOWEVER - the end of Amy's Bimbo route blocks the others mentioned above so if you want to see them all you'll have to blitz through it twice (ctrl is your friend).

RAMBLE/CRITIC

With all that being said... I HATE this game for 3 reasons:

1. It's bloated - there's about 1 hour of porn and 10 hours of story (bloat). Every time things look like it's getting into something good porn-wise, the scenes will be interrupted by the story. Speaking of which...

2. The story - it's poorly written drivel that goes on WAY too long. It's also almost completely disconnected from the porn scenes here which are arbitrarily incorporated into a weird lovecraftian horror. The fact that you can choose no routes and therefore skip all of the porn says it all.

3. Lack of payoff. The TpH (Tits Per Hour) is poor, and aside from the spanking (which is plentiful) and the scenes mentioned at the top of this review. There's basically nothing here worth the time investment.

Shit, I even went back through it a couple times holding ctrl down the whole time to see if there were any more worthwhile scenes and it took me a good 5-10 minutes to reach the end each time because of all the bloat mentioned before.

2 stars. One for high quality renders and one for effort.

This is not a "game". This is not a "Visual Novel".
Hell, this is barely a "Kinetic Novel".
It's basically a linear story with images. I think... there is a word for that. A "comic" maybe?

It's just that the writing and the drawings are... definitely pulp-level. Barely worth the medium it's printed on, and this one isn't even pulp paper.

Alright, I've "played" this game. I'm saying 'played' in the most generous term of the word, as there is really not much playing involved.
Nonetheless, I will rate this as a game.

In VN/Ren'Py type games I look for meaningful choices and the impacts my decisions have. It an additional cherry on top if the other characters also have relations between each other. Either way, I'm always interested in seeing the MC with the traits provided by the developer be formed by the decisions he/she makes.

That brings us to Of Birds and Bees. This isn't really a game - you barely make any decisions and the only ones you do make are route choices - like "Go the Lester route", which then opens that chapter. You do not have any agency at all in this game. You're simply reading a book with 3d generated images.

Now, if the game had been marked as a kinetic novel, then that'd be fine. But since it's not, I cannot be anything but disappointed.

Here's a short version:

• Not marked as a kinetic novel despite being one
• I skipped for longer than I care to admit to find just any player choice. IIRC I go to about 5 decisions.
• All decicions are all "route-based". I.E. do you want to go the Lester Route. You don't get any other agency than that.
• No agency. Just a book with added 3d generated images.

Of Birds and Bees really rubs me the wrong way for some reason, probably because it's a collection of tired horror tropes, is too linear/slow, not particularly well-written, thinks being random will make it more interesting, offers “transformation” paths that just switch to completely different character models, and recycles the “bimbo gets abused by a repulsive man” scenario too often.

But I'm sure some people will love it for its unusual aesthetics and that's perfectly fine, it just doesn't do it for me.

I literally had to come back and write a review months later just to say this is one of if not my number 1 favorite game on this site... (other contenders probably like Cyberslayers and Goons Raid Her) I still haven't finished playing through Autumn Boulevard but the lore, the tonal shifts, the horror, the renders, and obviously what brought me here in the first place, the ugly bastards, also the oddly tender moments when the ugly bastards face the horrors and bond with the mc... It is truly the greatest western horror VN I've ever seen... And I can't lie the doll tattoo the dumu en (probably misspelling that) I would actually get that tattooed as this game is responsible for getting me into the dollification sub-genre of bimbofication (already was a fan of bimbofication, another under-represented kink on here).. Well done and please finish this Disciple of Virginia; lol I maybe bring this dev up as an erotic horror example more than any other indie dev that's how enamored I am with this and Autumn Boulevard (but I'm more of an Of Birds And Bees fan let's be honest)

Poor Poor Poor - The writing in this game is atrocious, it tries to be smart intelligent and edgy but fails on almost all fronts.

The story has POTENTIAL but the writing does not live up to the premise of the story. Everything is long winded and meandering, it's like a movie that's 9 hours long when with a better script writer it could be condensed down to less than 3.

If you want some porn in your VN BEWARE, check the pictures on the front page, not counting Oral, their is literally 1-2 actual sex scenes and this VN started in 2019!! What have they been doing you ask? Mainly a horror type plot, and introducing us to 80 damn different forgettable characters.

The premise and some of the character models are really good. If you are a slow burn person this will be your jam, if you actually want some adult content. Fast forward pass the story portion and you will get to some hot setups that have zero payoff atm, but the setup is kinda hot.

Pretentious and Boring sadly.

I wanted to like this but the story just jumps from place to place randomly within the same thought. Between conversations and internal dialogue, then to a random 'foreshadowing' nonsensical phrase thrown in without a segway to build suspense and mystery, then sudenly cut to another scene. I feel no emotional connection to any characters, you get at brief backstory but they aren't developed at all. The horror and the porn seem like they could both exist independent of each other in two separate games/stories (at least up to the point I played). I would like to believe the horror/mystery gets better but it wasn't keeping my attention enough to bother finding out. The bulk of the story was just purposefully confusing and unexplained concepts masquerading as mystique. The renders are slightly above average overall but some scenes have below grade visuals. Every female character shot, even during mundane conversations, is a pure fanservice closeup of a butt, there was no subtlety.

Incredible game, but not for the faint hearted.

It has an interesting horror story and just like the previous game there is a range of character routes that highlight specific fetishes which wont be for everyone but if you enjoy domination, corruption, bimbofication and old/ugly then you will love this game. There is a good amount of ass worship content. I also like how the bimbo and mtf content is tied to side characters, it keeps you caring about their stories.
I must give a special mention to the lesbian domination route, its honestly amazing, the slow subtle corruption is great and im really suprised its a rare theme in adult games as it was insanely hot.
Renders are great, theres a variety of models. I did notice some clipping during animations which was a shame.
One negative i have was during a choice there was no warning that it would lead onto an ending, it was quite alot of content so needed to go back to an earlier save.

Im really looking forward to the route endings and hope they are just as depraved as the ones in autumn boulevard.

Story is all over the place and choices are rare, more like
non-existent. you met a dozen of character in second and next time you need to remember who is who ! you got a cryptic story mixing slice of life moment and "horror" moment with no build up or reasons.

review based on v0.7

I agree with the reviews before. What a bad game. The renders are at least mediocre. The story is absolutely "Meh".
Lewd scenes are more than rare - basically not to mention.
You can't even really skip through the boring content, as there are scripted delays every couple of renders, meaning the skip stopps and you have to wait for trasitions or until the animated part like dark screens are over.
For me at least the download has been a big waste in time and bandwidth.

Wow, how does this have such a good rating ????
So I downloaded this pig of VN....was it really 8 GB of wasted data?

Its a long read.....like a lotta of reading. The story is mediocre, ok, its kinda of sucky, but I like good stories, so I stuck with it for a while......and then some more......and then I realized, the accompanying renders were kinda also kinda lame.

And then I realized this is really a NwV (novel with visuals) pretending to be a VN. And guess what, at that point I realized that the novel portion sucked.

It also had lots of useless visuals or visuals that were out of sync with the story. But frankly, the (lengthy) story writing really took away from the overall experience. Also - no lewd scenes or H-scenes, so there's that too

Why was this even here.

Renders were above average. Models were also above average. Story/concept however, was horrible.

Recommendation to DEV....simply your story, less words and more renders....otherwise this remains an undownloaded snoooz feast.

Of Birds and Bees [v0.7 Beta] [DiscipleOfVirginia]

Without a doubt this was probably the worse download I've ever made on F95Zone. Literally over 8gb of nothing. A wasteland of content. With eyes fixated on my screen for an hour, I intently read the developing story. And I read. Annnnnd I read some more. After an hour, the game finally prompted me with a decision to choose a preselected route for the characters.

At no point are you immersed into an elaborate world of decision making. Instead everything is predetermined and you become a silenced audience member spamming the space bar to end the torture.