Oh yeah, Holly is still acting totally insecure there:I mean Holly already shows up to Ian's apartment in Chapter 11 and still feels like she's bothering her boyfriend by showing up. Just being with Ian doesn't really seem to increase her self confidence as much as Ivy and Lena are able to on their dedicated paths.
i "We should start getting ready to go to Emma's event. It's almost time."
h "Yes, but... You haven't finished yet..."
i "It's alright, I don't mind..."
h "But I do."
if holly_change > 3:
"With a bold move, Holly knelt on top of the bed and she began to lick the length of my cock."
i "Damn, Holly..."
h "I want to make you feel good too..."
holly_change
to 4 points doesn't require any sort of slut training with Ivy/Lena)I wasnt talking about myself, it's not my cuck of tea.You just lose a(nother) battle, but not the war. Keep fighting, bro
I'm not saying it does, I'm saying that maybe the option to encourage her to cheat should be locked behind whether Lena is a slut and/or Ivy's involvement (such as when Lena let's Ivy handle her development.)Oh yeah, Holly is still acting totally insecure there:
(gettingPython:i "We should start getting ready to go to Emma's event. It's almost time." h "Yes, but... You haven't finished yet..." i "It's alright, I don't mind..." h "But I do." if holly_change > 3: "With a bold move, Holly knelt on top of the bed and she began to lick the length of my cock." i "Damn, Holly..." h "I want to make you feel good too..."
holly_change
to 4 points doesn't require any sort of slut training with Ivy/Lena)
Yeah, not sending money will solve my stupid problem with this route. It slipped my mind that she will just piss it away in the last chapter.Don't send any money to your stupid mother (she'll just give it away to your useless brother) and don't spend on pointless shit like rubber cocks or tattoos, and you should be ok, even with modest Stalkfap. The rent is just 2 coins/month, when Stan asks for more tell him to go fuck himself.
How many nuns have gotten Ian's dick?Btw my Lena in that run is a nun. No toys or ink just Ian's dick.
I don't think there's any real inconsistency here. Holly is getting more confident about acting sexual as she keeps having sex with Ian, but she's still a pretty shy girl who doesn't have much experience with relationships. The thing is, she's also smart enough to know that fucking random guys behind her boyfriend's back isn't going to make her any better in this regard, so this whole idea of having Lena/Ivy push her no matter what just comes across as a rather desperate attempt to have some NTR for the character even when it doesn't make sense, than anything else. If there is any actual plans for such content for Holly, then let's just give Eva time to develop it naturally.I'm not saying it does, I'm saying that maybe the option to encourage her to cheat should be locked behind whether Lena is a slut and/or Ivy's involvement (such as when Lena let's Ivy handle her development.)
But you can read that too ways. Either Holly is becoming bolder because Ian's love is making her come out of her shell, or she's trying to be sexually bold to cover up for her inexperience in other areas of the relationship. Because against, she does still see herself as a burden to Ian, even later on.
I don't know if this is a bug or a simple writing inconsistency, but I think it is able to be explained through at least two perspectives, which could be easily explored in the story.
I think they are saying Ian is JesusHow many nuns have gotten Ian's dick?
I mean it has nothing to do with NTR, at least for me. It's just a corruptible influence in Holly's life. And based on whether slutty Lena and Ivy have already been pressuring her, dependent on player choices, that may be something that's already been developing if the player has directed the story in that direction.I don't think there's any real inconsistency here. Holly is getting more confident about acting sexual as she keeps having sex with Ian, but she's still a pretty shy girl who doesn't have much experience with relationships. The thing is, she's also smart enough to know that fucking random guys behind her boyfriend's back isn't going to make her any better in this regard, so this whole idea of having Lena/Ivy push her no matter what just comes across as a rather desperate attempt to have some NTR for the character even when it doesn't make sense, than anything else. If there is any actual plans for such content for Holly, then let's just give Eva time to develop it naturally.
Oh my word, that GIF. Core memory unlocked. "Are You Afraid Of The Dark", right?
Or how about "Our Cuck String"Oh those discussions... it's time to rename the thread to Our Red Cucks.
I think that'd make you an exception -- because what you're talking about, having Holly sleep with some random guy(s) behind her boyfriend's back is pretty much definition of NTR. It's like saying "swimming in a pool has nothing do to with being submerged in water, it's just wearing a bikini". Which, you have to admit, is a pretty absurd stance.I mean it has nothing to do with NTR, at least for me. It's just a corruptible influence in Holly's life.
The suggestions given to Holly by Ivy and Lena are all about getting her comfortable with having sex, something she's had little experience with. So when she's in relationship in which she is having sex and is comfortable with it, it's perfectly reasonable she doesn't need to heed advice which amounts to making her do the same thing she already is doing. It's not unrealistic she'd behave differently in two pretty much opposite situations. ("i haven't been laid in years" vs "i'm getting laid regularly and enjoying it, thankyouverymuch")Holly has been shown to be easily influenced by Ivy and Lena on other routes. To me, it's a bit unrealistic for the love of good man to suddenly make her impervious to suggestion.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then. To me, this idea in the way you present it is out of character not just for Holly, but also Lena and Ivy, given how they've acted in the game so far.So, I honestly just think it's a viable path of corruption for Holly, and I think, depending on player choices there's sufficient build up to explain in.
We're not gonna talk about kinks you like, just face it. Go find a game that has them, ur in a wrong thread mateOh those discussions... it's time to rename the thread to Our Red Cucks.
PerfectShe still takes Mark's dick if Lena pushes her to. Even if she's with Ian
Ian gonna get cucked once again by Mike... ehheAt the cost of Ian's double-cucking.
It should be expected. If Ian doesn’t date her, Allison feels her life isn’t going well and acts out in various ways. She wants a devoted husband first and then probably a baby. If there is no chance for that, in her mind she says, “fuck it.”Wait, so can Ian fuck Alison without condom this update only if they are not in relationship together (or FWB)? Am I being punished for having a save dedicated to Alison? Is that a bug or expected?
Clearly she is trying to baby trap IanWait, so can Ian fuck Alison without condom this update only if they are not in relationship together (or FWB)? Am I being punished for having a save dedicated to Alison? Is that a bug or expected?
I can like women in bikinis without liking seeing women swimming.I think that'd make you an exception -- because what you're talking about, having Holly sleep with some random guy(s) behind her boyfriend's back is pretty much definition of NTR. It's like saying "swimming in a pool has nothing do to with being submerged in water, it's just wearing a bikini". Which, you have to admit, is a pretty absurd stance.
Realistically, Holly can be in a relationship, having sex and still be concerned that she's not enough for Ian, given that he's suggested to be more experienced than her, and depending on the player choices, literally hanging out with 3-4 models weekly. I personally just find it a bit of a stretch that she supposedly comfortable in that situation, and I think her dialogue as well reflects a continued doubt of her self-worth that Ivy and Slut Lena could prey upon. As one optional path for her character. I like to play the pure route too.The suggestions given to Holly by Ivy and Lena are all about getting her comfortable with having sex, something she's had little experience with. So when she's in relationship in which she is having sex and is comfortable with it, it's perfectly reasonable she doesn't need to heed advice which amounts to making her do the same thing she already is doing. It's not unrealistic she'd behave differently in two pretty much opposite situations. ("i haven't been laid in years" vs "i'm getting laid regularly and enjoying it, thankyouverymuch")
C'est la vieI guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then. To me, this idea in the way you present it is out of character not just for Holly, but also Lena and Ivy, given how they've acted in the game so far.
If it’s just looks and nothing else:who are in my opinion best girls in this game
Cindy
Allison
Emma
Louise
Holly
Lena
Minerva
Gillian
Cherry
Ivy
Jessica
Natalie
and not necessarily because of their personalities or interactions in the game, basically just looks and/or content they have in the game