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I don't think stan's "rework" changed much outside his appearance. But I don't play his route and never will, I don't like it.Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much .
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" . I didnt know this was the reason
Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more .
To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".
The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" .
That's Eva problem. Too vulnerable to the fans opinion. And given that this is a genre of porn games, there are a lot of virgins with social problems in the audience.Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much .
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" . I didnt know this was the reason
Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more .
To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".
The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" .
That's the general problem with the post-nut clarity: it only occurs after the nut.Eva should've made him a smarter coomer. Stan is a dumbass and doesn't deserve respect. Not for being a coomer. But for being caught being a coomer.
So her core audience likes Stan and Eva talks like she's going to please them. Eva herself admitted that she didn't like this character. It feels like Eva is no longer developing the game according to her vision, but is trying to satisfy the crowd by making fan service. It is not good.
Eva said that fans asked her to "redesign Stan" to make him a more likeable and meaningful character and to give him a route.
Correct me if I’m wrong, because there’s literally hundreds of Patreon posts and I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure Eva has never said anything about fans asking her to redesign Stan, and that being the reason for the rework?To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time...
That sounds like she didn’t like the old Stan, and therefore made som adjustments to him, which is an obvious thing to do if you’re dissatisfied with a character in your story, unrelated to what the game’s followers think of him.The truth is, I don't like him. And I don't really know what to do with him in the narrative. When I created him, I thought it would be interesting to add this character trope into the game, since GGGB didn't have anyone like him, and I wanted to try to explore new character dynamics. But the truth is Stan ended up being just that: a trope of a character, and I felt all his interactions with Lena were shallow and didn't fit the rest of the game. And it's time to fix that.
That doesn’t sound like “no longer developing the game according to her vision” to me.I like to know what my audience thinks, but ultimately I have my own vision and I always follow that. However, I try to give people what they like, of course
Yes, this is one of those posts, word for word about the fact that she doesn't like Stan but she wants to fix him. But there was also a post that "the fans asked for more Stan", but I can't say for sure whether it was a repost from Patreon or her Discord (I'm subscribed to Discord) I want to hope that the last words are really what she thinks and feels. The importance of maintaining your vision is the most important thing when creating a story. The only exception in my opinion is to ask for advice from a fellow experienced writer if you have a creative block.Correct me if I’m wrong, because there’s literally hundreds of Patreon posts and I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure Eva has never said anything about fans asking her to redesign Stan, and that being the reason for the rework?
When the rework wasYou must be registered to see the links, Eva wrote:
That sounds like she didn’t like the old Stan, and therefore made som adjustments to him, which is an obvious thing to do if you’re dissatisfied with a character in your story, unrelated to what the game’s followers think of him.
And in the comment section of yesterday’s Patreon post:
That doesn’t sound like “no longer developing the game according to her vision” to me.
Initially, Stan seemed just like a shy IT nerd. I loved the idea of having Lena tease and provoke him. Now he's revealed himself to be an incel, yes, but I feel more pity for him than anything else right now. He clearly just doesn't understand how romance works and he's probably not much better with people who are just friends, either. I'm still curious to see where EvaKiss takes his story, if anywhere.Anyway, we've got a good group of people who don't like Stan here on the F95. Patreon has fallen, taken over by a dark, creepy Incel evil. But maybe we can at least defend the F95? Stan will not pass!
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There was an idea... to bring together a group of of remarkable people to see if they could become something more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.
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Such a sweet moment of unity against a common evil...and I ran out of reactions.I just have 1 thing to say to all of you:
#RejectStannyEmbraceFreedom
AWAKE F95zone's people!!!
You are in the matrix
Matrix has brainwashed you all
IF you want to see reality
Take The Red Pill
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If you take Blue Pill
You will fall into the depth
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That's the problem. Eva exposes the IT community in a very unflattering light, representing it as such a person as Stan. And of course I am a supporter of the idea "The developer should follow his vision", but this is an exceptional case when Eva can ask advice from MF_DOOM on the development of Stan's storyline. He has a lot of ideas about this, I'm sure.Initially, Stan seemed just like a shy IT nerd. I loved the idea of having Lena tease and provoke him. Now he's revealed himself to be an incel, yes, but I feel more pity for him than anything else right now. He clearly just doesn't understand how romance works and he's probably not much better with people who are just friends, either. I'm still curious to see where EvaKiss takes his story, if anywhere.
first of all I dont really think that people that like stan are incels hello?? I am more a axel,jeremy,macel guy for obvious reasons but I think that comment is so weird I mean I like for example shooter games but I dont like killing in real life mate or for exampe I like other weird sex kinks that I would absolutly not like in real life its a bit weird to think if you like a cheracter X (game of thrones.......), kink X that you are person x,y in real life hello????logic???The game development is the vision of the author, not the fans, if Eva starts making changes to please others (in this case, the incels who feel sorry for Stan and see themselves in him) then the story loses its original intent.
I kinda like that not every cheracter looks like axel and to be honest I have no idea why people like stan could be 3 things in my opinioncharacter attractive
this is absolutly not true and this is not what the votes show at allThat game is very good in its own way, but many of us expect something different from ORS.
Ian not on Lena or Holly's routes.Quick question... How do I set the path for a possible Holly, Ian, Lena threesome?
That game is very good in its own way, but many of us expect something different from ORS.
dont talk about queen cindy like thatLuckly EvaKiss doesn't base her story on those polls. Her patrons are strange, to say the least. Putting the entitled brat and the walking dildo as favorites...
It's uncler yet since IanxHollyxLena threesome still didn't happen.Quick question... How do I set the path for a possible Holly, Ian, Lena threesome?
Luckly EvaKiss doesn't base her story on those polls. Her patrons are strange, to say the least. Putting the entitled brat and the walking dildo as favorites...
gillian is just this sweet fruite imagin you are wanderer in the desert did not eat or drink for 2 days and than you see this sweet red head omg I just cant resiist even if I know ian goes downhill if he falls in love with gillian againThose who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.