VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 FULL] [Eva Kiss]

[MF_DOOM]

Stop getting your panties in bunch because your projected fake 2D girlfriend got taken to pound town in a dingy bathroom but you still fapped anyways with your shame boner and now gotta rush to the F95 forums to try and restore your fragile masculinity.

And the funny part is, all of it is avoidable and yet, they still go with it and keep complaining about it. They remind me of cuck Eric from GGGB

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[| Vee |]

Technically no one has a "right" to be told such things. It's up to the person who holds this knowledge whether they divulge it. Such person might think that keeping a secret is better for people involved, and act accordingly. (of course, it doesn't have to mean their opinion was the right one in a given case. But sometimes it can be)

I have serious doubt if many players would appreciate Jeremy telling Wade he saw them banging Cindy. I think you'd see quite a few complaints how he's betrayed them by revealing it.


He explains his reasoning when Ian asks him.

Yes he has right to withhold information as he wants. BUT what kinda friend is he if he does this? they grew together, been together from college(i believe) and than goes on telling wade "I don't steal in friend house" bullshit and guess what he does with Lena? If Ian had given him a chance to score with Cindy or Cindy herself, what do you think he would've done? He would've jumped on her? He should've told Wade about it or should've made Ian end IanxCindy like the man he projects himself. Bullshit at it's peek. Fucker just an opportunist nothing more. How he behaves in-game is his character and he ain't no friend. He just tries to keep himself out of danger by not telling Wade.

 

[| Vee |]

What I wonder is how Jeremy fits into all this. Unless I've completely missed something, the 3 scenarios I see are:
1. Jeremy knew Mike and Gillian were together but said nothing (snake in the grass).
2. Jeremy somehow couldn't figure out Mike and Gillian were dating (fucking idiot).
3. Eva does a 180 and makes Mike's girlfriend someone random.

And if it's number 3.... Gillian coming back makes no sense. Either I'm overthinking it or this whole subplot is convoluted.

What if there is a 4 option and now Jack is Gillian's boyfriend. EK may implement this to keep things from getting too obvious and Mike may have Eli or some other girl as girlfriend. WHO KNOWS!

 

[MixQQ]

poor ian xd

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[fatpussy123]

poor ian xd

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If I'm Ian in this I'm killing her, then myself

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

poor ian xd

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Lena in this photo demonstrates her true worth, the bathroom, hhahhahaha

 

[Cezzard]

Another re-skin for a scene. man, the quality dropping quite hard.

 

[SerHawkes]

Another re-skin for a scene. man, the quality dropping quite hard.

It already dropped to rock bottom when we got the 'Stan Update". So nothing really new.

 

[starkj]

poor ian xd

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Poor Ian man.

 

[LoneWaker59]

EvaKiss had said in the Q&A that Ian wasn't going to have any content with that GGGB woman, Naty/Nathalia/Nataly... I can't remember her name, but Jack is already an option for Lena, the heart option shows that we'll have more content with him in the future.

Come on, the game is turning very much in Lena's favor, Ian is still struggling to go out with Jessica/Ivy while Lena goes out with a new character every update (Jack, Marcel, random girl from the mall...)

 

[SerHawkes]

EvaKiss had said in the Q&A that Ian wasn't going to have any content with that GGGB woman, Naty/Nathalia/Nataly... I can't remember her name, but Jack is already an option for Lena, the heart option shows that we'll have more content with him in the future.

Come on, the game is turning very much in Lena's favor, Ian is still struggling to go out with Jessica/Ivy while Lena goes out with a new character every update (Jack, Marcel, random girl from the mall...)

Its an honest to god shit joke is what it is.

Our boy Ian has been waiting for 3+ years now to hook up with Ivy/Jessica... But Lena? Oh she gets every character possible every update. Jack (Which makes zero fucking sense, let alone reusing Axel's scenes? How FUCKING ORIGINAL EK.), Marcel (Again, left field, out of fucking no where/appease the small black cock fetishist), Mall Girl (who is a probably next episode).

At this point, EK should truly come clean and just say 'Fuck it! I have NO FUCKING CLUE what I want to do with Ian-Ivy/Jessica! Sowwy guys and gals who have been wait for forever to see them together!' Just admit it and stop with the bullshit.

 

[axy2]

EvaKiss had said in the Q&A that Ian wasn't going to have any content with that GGGB woman, Naty/Nathalia/Nataly... I can't remember her name, but Jack is already an option for Lena, the heart option shows that we'll have more content with him in the future.

Come on, the game is turning very much in Lena's favor, Ian is still struggling to go out with Jessica/Ivy while Lena goes out with a new character every update (Jack, Marcel, random girl from the mall...)

#JusticeforIan ‍

 

[Xupuzulla]

EvaKiss had said in the Q&A that Ian wasn't going to have any content with that GGGB woman, Naty/Nathalia/Nataly... I can't remember her name, but Jack is already an option for Lena, the heart option shows that we'll have more content with him in the future.

Come on, the game is turning very much in Lena's favor, Ian is still struggling to go out with Jessica/Ivy while Lena goes out with a new character every update (Jack, Marcel, random girl from the mall...)

Lena won the best MC poll by alot,the patreons are getting what they want.
If anyone wanted GGGB 2.0 they should be happy now.

 

[Socrambus]

It doesn't mean that we will get content with Jack at the cost of other characters from now on - nor does it mean that Eva is getting lazy and will be copying more and more scenes.

I'm not calling her lazy or even impliying it. But there has been more recycled scenes in the last chapter than there were before, that's a fact.

I mean Mike dating Gillian makes more sense than ever now,he is fucking around hard but never breaks up with her small breast girlfriend?
He thinks everyone is a hoe except her gf?
At this point i will be very surprised if Mike gf is someone random.

I don't get how it's so obvious that Gillian is Mike's gf, maybe I'm forgetting something or didn't catch it. If I remember it right, Gillian tells Ian she went back to Baluart around the time where you start at the beginning of Chapter 1 because his boyfriend found a job there. I don't remember anyone mentioning Mike is new in his job at the club.

At this point it's either 1 or 2. 3 would EK having no fucking clue to really why having Gillian return only for the sake of possible drama, which again, would be pointless.

The point for Gillian returning is Ian confronting her, getting closure and getting over her (or not). The same as Lena with Axel. It's the main plot of this game, Ian and Lena getting over their past together and hopefully ending at a better and healthier place than where they started the game. Or failing to do so.

Jeremy was acting very uncomfortable when Lena has asked him whether Mike still has a girlfriend. He was similarly evasive when Ian has questioned him if he saw Gillian's new boyfriend at the club. So, while identities of these two aren't confirmed, Jeremy very likely knows who they are. Though i think he genuinely wants to just avoid the drama and believes he's helping (or at least prevents things from getting worse) by keeping stuff under wraps. Just like he doesn't tell Wade about Ian fucking Cindy.

Let's say that Mike's gf is Gillian that would mean that Jeremy knows that. Also, as it seems that Jeremy knows everything in this game despite being the dumbest character, it would be reasonable to think that Jeremy knows about Mike and Lena (if it happens in your game, obviously). So the situation would be that Jeremy is not telling Ian that his ex has come back and he's not telling him that the guy who "stole" Gillian from him is also now fucking Lena, his new girlfriend. That would be fucked up beyond words, like cruel and unusual kind of fucked up. I'm not the biggest fan of Jeremy as a bro, but that would be really awful even for my low expectations of him.

Yes he has right to withhold information as he wants. BUT what kinda friend is he if he does this? they grew together, been together from college(i believe) and than goes on telling wade "I don't steal in friend house" bullshit and guess what he does with Lena? If Ian had given him a chance to score with Cindy or Cindy herself, what do you think he would've done? He would've jumped on her? He should've told Wade about it or should've made Ian end IanxCindy like the man he projects himself. Bullshit at it's peek. Fucker just an opportunist nothing more. How he behaves in-game is his character and he ain't no friend. He just tries to keep himself out of danger by not telling Wade.

As I said before, I'm not Jeremy's biggest fan but IMO not telling Wade about Ian and Cindy is the right move for a true bro. It's a conflict of loyalty between his friendship with Ian and his frienship with Wade and he's shown during the game to have a much closer friendship with Ian. From a "broship" pov it's not a matter of morals (clearly Ian is the bad guy) but a matter of loyalty.

Although, I mostly agree with your Cindy point. I think he would not pursue her actively but if she presented herself to him like Lena does on her Jeremy path, he would absolutely fuck her. 100%.

 

[JoJoPool]

Holy fuck guys this is a porn game about people fucking each other. It's not that deep lmao. Stop trying to project your puritan bullshit morality on what's right and wrong for fictional characters. It's porn with a story. That's it. Stop getting your panties in bunch because your projected fake 2D girlfriend got taken to pound town in a dingy bathroom but you still fapped anyways with your shame boner and now gotta rush to the F95 forums to try and restore your fragile masculinity.

That's maybe true for most games and porn in general but this isn't your typical porn story where the wife fucks the plumber just because. When it comes to Eva's games the characters have their own history, struggles and each with their unique personality and morals, that's why we feel attached to them because they feel realistic. So it's actually less about fucking and more about the story, the character's goals, the drama and their shenanigans while you get immersed in all of that.
That's why it's heartbreaking when after 10 chapters of build-up it becomes a mindless fuck fest just for the sake of it, If i wanted that i'll go play the other 90% of games on this platform.

 

[MixQQ]

Lena won the best MC poll by alot,the patreons are getting what they want.
If anyone wanted GGGB 2.0 they should be happy now.

i hope that doesn't mean we will get more Lena and less Ian content

 

[SerHawkes]

i hope that doesn't mean we will get more Lena and less Ian content

And far less Stan.

 

[| Vee |]

...As I said before, I'm not Jeremy's biggest fan but IMO not telling Wade about Ian and Cindy is the right move for a true bro. It's a conflict of loyalty between his friendship with Ian and his frienship with Wade and he's shown during the game to have a much closer friendship with Ian. From a "broship" pov it's not a matter of morals (clearly Ian is the bad guy) but a matter of loyalty.

Although, I mostly agree with your Cindy point. I think he would not pursue her actively but if she presented herself to him like Lena does on her Jeremy path, he would absolutely fuck her. 100%.

...He should've told Wade about it or should've made Ian end IanxCindy like the man he projects himself. Bullshit at it's peek. Fucker just an opportunist nothing more. How he behaves in-game is his character and he ain't no friend. He just tries to keep himself out of danger by not telling Wade.

 

[rj677]

I always had Eva on my top devs list because I truly believed her to be one of the best around... Other top devs that finished a game, started a new one but they all innovated on their approach and gave their fans something new. (Sorry in advance for the long rant )

Now it got to a point where we can honestly make the argument that Eva is essentially a liar... "This game will be different than GGGB" "More realistic scenarios"... What she didnt say was that she meant to do those things only on the Ian path .

Of course the Ian path isnt perfect, but my complaints on it are more about the focus/attention some characters get (like Holly, Cindy and Allison) vs the focus other great characters get (Ivy and Emma mostly) . Ian has a really realistic storyline in the beginning of the game, being cheated on and with low self esteem and getting back into a position of him trusting women enough to get into a new relationship. The different LIs also showcase a lot of different options/kinks and the playerscan really feel that they are really influencing how Ian acts about things...

With the Lena path, Eva showed that shes a one trick pony: CORRUPTION CORRUPTION CORRUPTION. Of course a ton of AVNs who have a Female MC have corruption (and I love those games for what they are ), but its just not what Eva said she was doing in this game. She started to get "opinions" by the patreons and now its truly GGGB 2.0 . Every single male LI on the Lena path is essentially the same (Axel, Seymour, Jeremy and now Jack are all the same), Robert is a non factor and Stan having a shot is the most unrealistic thing in the whole game .

Conclusion: IF I wanted a "porn with a story", theres WAY better games out there for that. IF I wanted a "corruption female MC game" I sure as hell wouldnt choose this game when GGGB is a true corruption game since the very beginning. Hell, if I wanted a 2cg game theres a way better option out there (not gonna mention what game, but you can easily find it on the weighted rating first page) (NO, not the fucking PIG one ).

I get that shes "tired"/"writter blocked" and wants to just finish this game, but destroying everything and defaulting back to her "old ways" wasnt the right option to me... Im still gonna play the Ian parts, but now my Lena parts are unfortunately gonna be played pressing ctrl key with "skip all text" activated.

 

[| Vee |]

I am just clinging on to ORS till CH12 epilogue. That's the last branch which has any chance of producing any fruit(in terms of story). If I just wanted mindless sex there is enough porn. I only play for VN's for the story it is worth it but EK is just turning ORS into just a porn VN lacking on fucking story WHICH SHE HERSELF BUILD FOR 11 FUCKING CHAPTERS. It's obnoxious. This is just create, reuse, recycle bullshit. It's same as when DEV's bought 3D content from Daz and you see in every other game DEV's using same model without VERSATILITY. It just shows that the Dev is lazy or just not enough into the project. I know EK is a talented writer but that doesn't give her any right to resort to this tactics or any other DEV. I'm a straight-forward person, I see bullshit, I call upon it. Create, reuse, recycle is appreciated to some extent, not like this.