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Oooook. With more testing from my above post,
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it does for me. I don't play games with shit reviews.
And if i never play those games, the devs wouldn't get patreon $ from me either.
Those reviews directly helped some devs getting $ from me, however little
1) Oh, I think that EK can make loyal Cindy path and it's not very difficult per se, but Cindy needs to change her whole outlook on life for this to happen. Problem is, usually that kind of thing happen because of some trauma and understanding that you just can't continue to follow the same path you did. And, well, Cindy is not very open to the idea that she can be in the wrong. One of the only things strong enough for Cindy to get the message is understanding that she is just a toy for Axel and she can lose all those perspectives in one go. Ask yourself, how, realistically, she can see and accept that before he would score with her?I would be disappointed if theres NO path where Cindy and Ian would work out (even though I can somewhat agree that it would be kind of unrealistic depending how you would look at it) even though I wouldnt be surprised. In that scenario, every Cindy stereotype and every person saying Ian is "average" (so not able to compete in ANY WAY with someone like Axel) would win I guess
2) It's not that Ian is average, it's that he creates that impression. His main value lies in the heart: he can be loyal, loving, honest, smart and so on. All things that Axel isn't. But on the face value Axel is stronger, sexier, more confident, has a better job and more money. And Cindy is just not the best girl to see past that facade yet.
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True but that's the thing, nobody seems to care about Ian's value in the heart. Axel is everything good on the outside but rotten to the core. As a matter of fact Ian appears to be the "most decent" guy compared to every other male chars in game.
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I think you are just projecting over there. When she was out with Ian she was fun, sweet and nice. When they went to art exhibit she was genuinely interested in, attentive to Ian. Never shown what you said about her anymore than others.
1) I am not sure this is whether or not dev's insight but it definitely is not the case. GGGB was not more unrealistic than ORS per se.
2) Although Dave and Cindy not being similar is true, I meant it was very unlikely to Dave end up with Ash but it made sense in the end when story came to that. I was saying for Ian and Cindy a loving loyal path could be possible down the road.
I don't think you are seeing it but Cindy is the only one who tries to revive their dead relationship with Wade. She does everything she can. Everyone including Ian says Wade changed too much, especially after he laid off. As far as we know he lives with unemployment benefits which is notoriously not good enough, that means their only source of income is Cindy. She take cares of him, pays for him, trying to push him forward etc. She is stingy I can agree with that but maybe because she is paying for 2? She acts annoying even bitchy towards Wade but can you really blame her for it? She did not sign up for that. When they started the relationship; Wade had a job, fitter, had hobbies, was going out etc. he does none of them anymore. Even after all of this, Cindy was trying to be supportive, trying to do things with him, trying to rekindle their relationship and each time Wade, usually through Perry, fucks it all up.
Now, cheating is wrong I agree with that. What they did was horrible in that way. I also agree, if it's lust path not the love one Cindy is gonna get railed by Axel and probably a few more. Though, in love path if Cindy stays as loyal as to Wade, then they will have happily ever after ending together. It is not out of her character, she does need to change anything in personality-wise.
3)We do not know she slept with Axel, only speculations but if you are gonna blame her through how he acts around Axel you need to blame every other girl in the game too, in addition Perry. Do you remember what Perry said about Axel first he saw him? Do you remember Emma in the same scene? Is that mean they will fuck Axel at the first possible occasion? Also Ian was the ultimate decision maker whether or not Cindy got naked in the photoshoot. She always waits Ian's approval and whenever he gave it, she became happier.
So all in all, Cindy is a deeper character than you think and she can be loyal, loving, supportive girlfriend too. If you are expecting unwavering, unconditional, unlimited loyalty and love without giving anything back, then you are delusional. She did what she could with Wade; if she can get the fun, respect and love from Ian she won't(well should not, if EK won't insist on cuckfest) cheat on Ian.
I agree but if EK continued to be driven by patreon, I'm afraid that's how it is with the amount of "cuck Ian" supporter. I have high amount of playthroughs including one with slut Lena + sexless cuck Ian. But this is a game where we shape these 2 MC into what they are and I find it amusing whenever I see people go on "Ian can only be cucked". Lena don't begin the story as a slut nor Ian born in the story to be a cuck. They are everything players mold them into by choices along the game.
Seriously people gonna dethrone Stan for that?
Bro faps to his roommate's photos in his room and peep while her boyfriend railing her ass. Everything happened rather early in game as well if there's one who begins the story as a cuck, it's him.
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I have to agree I am not a fan what game become with last 2 episodes. I don't play slut Lena path, there was almost no content for me in the episode.I agree but if EK continued to be driven by patreon, I'm afraid that's how it is with the amount of "cuck Ian" supporter. I have high amount of playthroughs including one with slut Lena + sexless cuck Ian. But this is a game where we shape these 2 MC into what they are and I find it amusing whenever I see people go on "Ian can only be cucked". Lena don't begin the story as a slut nor Ian born in the story to be a cuck. They are everything players mold them into by choices along the game.
Seriously people gonna dethrone Stan for that?
Since I played almost every paths for 2 MC I have to say if you would have witnessed all dramas going on, and then go back to the loyal Ian X Loyal Lena path. It's sweet as fuck at the last scene epilogue knowing every drama and shits happening around don't affect the little couple who's in a world of their own.
After playing all Lena paths and all Ian paths my top pairing will still be Loyal Ian x Loyal Lena for now.
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PLaying Ian and Lena against the Matrix of undending heartache this game turns out to be on many other paths
gives a sense of accomplishment, you feel like building something.
There is constant drama surrounding Jeremy, there is nothing worthy to gauge out of his path.
There is constant drama surrouonding Axel, there is nothing to get outta there also.
Seymour is a constant asshole and he cannot in good faith patron any artist, as his interests in beauty
is shallow and deprecated - jump on the NUDE MODEL TRAIN AFTER AXEL HAS ALREADY SULLIED/SHAT THERE.
gives a sense of accomplishment, you feel like building something.
There is constant drama surrounding Jeremy, there is nothing worthy to gauge out of his path.
There is constant drama surrouonding Axel, there is nothing to get outta there also.
Seymour is a constant asshole and he cannot in good faith patron any artist, as his interests in beauty
is shallow and deprecated - jump on the NUDE MODEL TRAIN AFTER AXEL HAS ALREADY SULLIED/SHAT THERE.
Yup, Seymour the consumate cuck is a trainwreck the likes of whom Ian could end up as if players just do not care.
i don't have a single playthrough where Lena is back with Axel again.
The sense I get of Lena from early chapters makes it seem to me like she really want to distance herself from Axel. Moving away, told Ivy not to tell Axel where she lived, etc. So i don't have a single playthrough where Lena is falling for Axel.
On the other hand, the sense I get of Ian is more half-half about Gillian. So on many of my playthrough, Ian is not over Gillian yet.
The sense I get of Lena from early chapters makes it seem to me like she really want to distance herself from Axel. Moving away, told Ivy not to tell Axel where she lived, etc. So i don't have a single playthrough where Lena is falling for Axel.
On the other hand, the sense I get of Ian is more half-half about Gillian. So on many of my playthrough, Ian is not over Gillian yet.
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This is my favorite version of Lena. Axel really didn't deserve a second(?) chance.
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what is the most likleyhood axel goes after cindy if ian is dating her?? I tried to play as soyboys bf as I could but my lena sleeps with everyone so axel told her he only loves lena is he lying/manipulating???or dosent tell lena that if lena ignones him?? maybe the chance is higher that axel goes after her than or does he say the same thing??
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I have 2 main routes, which I consider pure, both of them. For the first one, both Ian and Lena is only committed to each other and they don't sleep with anyone. Second one is other females are fair game for both of them. Louise-Lena also 3some with them, attempted kiss with Holly, plus cockblock(is pussyblock a term?) Holly for every occasion. Also even though I am somewhat reluctant about her, Ivy content too. Ian goes for Allison, Cherry, Cindy, Emma if possible Holly in near future. I chose open relation option with it too.
I try other routes too if I find them interesting but don't have any save for them. Also never played Jeremy, Seymour, Robert or Axel routes for Lena.
Btw, I think game is in dire needs for decent guys. Every single one of the male NPCs are either complete douchebags or complete losers. Can't say the same for the female cast.
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It's not about her being pure tho. But, more about not being screwed over or being taken advantage of like an idiot. Lena helping Louise with physical affection does make sense and if Lena had a guy friend who wasn't any of the dipshit who Ian is not a part of then we could explore that option. And besides, from lame pick-up lines to blackmailing is soooo unappealing for a sexual prospect. Ian has fewer sex scenes but at least they are so much better. If Lena could hate fuck Axel and inflict some kinda of physical injury then I'm game. For example, in Superhuman you could polymorph yourself into a girl and fuck the college bully and n°1 insufferable idiot and then proceed to break his dick. He was such an asshole, that shit was satisfying as fuck.
Nope I didn't. That's how I went for the Lena Ian threesome with her fucktoy
and having Ian to know Lena is her mistress. But honestly a lot would still considered lesbian to be cheating but I simply stay true to what EK writes. Whenever Lena has lesbian sex be it Ivy or Louise, they didn't set lena_cheating = true. So.... I still considered that as Loyal Lena btw.Honestly Jeremy plays the major part in the game to the extent his actions are almost dictated by the player. He doesn't force himself onto Lena path like Seymour or Axel, the real initiator for his path is Lena from player's choices by literally pushing her onto that bbc. Player can cockblock him with alison_jeremy_block variable when it's set to true during their talk, JeremyXEmma doesn't happen if Ian fucked Emma and don't bring it up and don't encourage him to go for it, JeremyXLena doesn't happen at all if player don't want it, JeremyXIvy required approvals from BOTH Ian and Lena (aka player choices) for Ivy to stop trashing him in the epilogue. We will see if he fucks her in ch12 or not with Ivy allowing him to get on her car at the end.
With Jeremy winning almost every poll as best male cast, we should only expect more bbc content not less. But then again, EK did a good job for letting everything that happens on the path to be decided by the player though. You can literally have nothing to do with him at all in the story too.
The thing is "most decent guy" isn't sexy. "Bad boy" is. That is sad reality: people who would value decency from the get go are rare.
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nah, lesbian content is ok, game don't even consider it as a cheating. I also think at some point Lena will deliver all her lovers to Ian, just like she did with Louise
She took Ian to the exhibit because she wanted free guide, lol. And she can be decent sometimes, she isn't a monster., after all. She is just a "cheerleader type" girl with potential for something deeper or something even more shallow.
1) That was dev intention from the start. And GGGB is miles more unrealistic than ORS. As a matter of fact, I tried to replay GGGB yesterday. There is such chasm in quality (ORS is much better) that I just couldn't.
2) You got me wrong. I tell what I tell about her not because of her relationship with Wade. There she acts understandable if bitchy. No, I tell all this because of how she interacts with everyone else. Where she is demanding, needy, egoistical and so on.
3) Never said that she slept with Axel. I just think she will, because while everyone can find him sexy, not everyone will undress on their first photosession without consulting the boyfriend. She was completely enraptured, couldn't say a word of protest. She wanted to believe all the things he told and to do everything he wanted her to. And, sure, she is pulled towards Ian somewhat. Problem is, she is pulled towards Axel so much more.