ffive

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The only interesting angle I can find from an inevitable breakup is Cindy realizing she royally fucked up when finding out who Axel truly is after breaking up with Wade, despite Ian's efforts to help and Lena's attempt to warn her.
Tbh this doesn't strike me as something very interesting, because it feels too much like "see, sluts deserve to be punished for being sluts har har har" mentality that's all too common. (i'm not saying that's where you're coming from, but the results would largely align)

But i don't think the breakup will be inevitable. I share the view/hope that the "Ian's help" variable is there for a reason. (though, i won't find out in my playthrough because my Ian did quite terrible job at helping)
 

yuvce

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Tbh this doesn't strike me as something very interesting, because it feels too much like "see, sluts deserve to be punished for being sluts har har har" mentality that's all too common. (i'm not saying that's where you're coming from, but the results would largely align)
I don't think it's inevitable either. At least I hope it isn't. But my initial point was about "not realizing what you have until it's gone" or "Being careful what you wish for". I'm not saying Wade is a terrific guy. He's not. He's lazy, unmotivated, and mundane. But she obviously chose to be with him for a reason, as Ian stated in chapter 6. I just have this feeling Cindy might regret it breaking up if she and Wade are on relatively amicable terms. Especially if the rumour about she and Axel dating is true (unless that's Ivy trying to add fuel to the fire). I feel as though at this stage in game, Cindy's at a point where she to make a decision there's no coming back from. Breaking up with Wade would essentially mean losing Ian and Emma since they're more his friends. And it's possible she won't find the life of a model as fulfilling as she thinks.
 

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If you could what routes would you rework/add content to?
Various folks bringing up Cindy & Wade make strong points, and I'd be fine with more consistency in what we have so far, and a better sense of direction for their relationship (and in general a more-clearly-defined take on Wade's character). I also take the point that we don't really know what Eva is up to with them long-term, and if their relationship could be saved or whether it will be canon that it's doomed. (I personally think it's more interesting if their overarching story is how and why they break up, something you rarely get in a VN in my experience, but I also see why that is a minority opinion.)

In terms of who should be getting more content, I'm very tempted to say Emma, partly because she's got a great personality, partly because I think there are many paths which would be made more fun (sexually, dialogue, outfits, etc.) with her involved.

But at the end of the day, there's one clear choice. The major untapped - in multiple ways - character in the game as it stands has to be Ivy. Putting someone who looks like her in the game, giving her the job she has and the outfits she has, giving her the personality she has and the attitude about sex she has, but NOT having any primary storylines revolve around her and NOT having any on-screen hetero sex with her this far into the game is a major mistake. I get that Eva sees her as a crucial but secondary part of Lena's story, and I appreciate her guiding Holly to be more sexually forward and active. I think all of the sex Holly and Lena can have with her is awesome! But to not have any men involved in her sex life - and a blowjob for Jeremy just to piss off Louise doesn't count - is a real waste of opportunity.

Two possibilities missed, off the top of my head:
1 - Stalkfap Meet-Up. Back in chapter 5 or 6, Lena's getting into Stalkfap, has options to post nude photos and interact with patrons over private messages. "You could do more," Ivy says. "What do you mean?" Lena replies. "Well, be in the alley outside Blazer tonight at 1am when I'm off-shift. Hide in the doorway a few doors down." Lena goes and it turns out Ivy is meeting for a little one-on-one time with one of her biggest supporters, just some guy. Ivy winks towards the hidden Lena as he gives Ivy a wad of cash and then, Ivy places her hands against the wall, spreads her legs, and starts giving instructions on what exactly she wants him to do to her...

2 - You're Not Interrupting. A little later, chapter 8 or 9 maybe, Lena calls Ivy for something. There's heavy breathing and some moaning from Ivy's end. "Oh, you're not interrupting. Would you like a little peek?" And Ivy sends Lena real-time photos, selfies and maybe one or two in part of a mirror, showing Ivy giving a blowjob and then getting fucked. Ivy never shows the guy - "he's just some guy" - but in one photo there's a small bit of the guy's dark hair. No hairstyle, no skin tone, just the dark patch of hair in a corner of the photo. Can you imagine how much we (and Eva's patrons) would lose our shit trying to figure out who Ivy is screwing? Ian has brown hair so it's not him, but Wade, Perry, Stan, Mark, Robert...and Mike... all have dark hair. ("It's got to be Perry, remember how Ivy was weirdly really nice to him? She's totally 'training' him in secret, the same way she is with Holly!") And of course we get the payoff a few chapters later, which causes major drama if a player's Lena is also screwing Mike.

As with Cindy and Wade, we don't know Eva's endgame for Ivy. We've talked for a long time about Billy's "new modeling agency" being a potential prostitution ring, and that's still possible. There may yet be real fireworks to come between Ivy and Cindy - maybe including Wade and/or Axel - because of the Wildcats contract. There are hints of interest between Ivy and Ian, if you play your choices that way, but frankly that's been way too long in coming also. (There may be some mockery of SerHawkes around here for being obsessed over this possibility, but the man has a point, and it's a strong one.) You just don't put someone as forward and sex-positive and sex-hungry as Ivy in the game, with the whole "I'm just drawn that way" vibe to match, make her both a dancer and a Stalkfap star, and then give her so few avenues for actual sex, and none of them with men.
 
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For someone acting so cool while getting dumped and then sending this. :KEK:
Is this after Mike set Lena straight about who he fucks is none of her problem and she is just someone who he fucks?
If Yes! than that is meh for Lena to behave that way few moments after. Why make her behave that way:rolleyes:, is beyond understanding. Throwing her in dumb girl categories and showing she is in her hoe phase?
 
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Is this after Mike set Lena straight about who he fucks is none of her problem and she is just someone who he fucks?
If Yes! than that is meh for Lena to behave that way few moments after. Why make her behave that way:rolleyes:, is beyond understanding. Throwing her in dumb girl categories and showing she is in her hoe phase?
Nope, it's after Ian/Lena get together as a couple and when she comes back to her room, Mike messages her. She dumps him politely. Bruised ego Mike acts cool and says no problem. Then he sends this text message during Lena's second music gig at the Fortress.
The scene you were referring to was from Lena's nightclub bartending gig.
 

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A new Patreon update should be around the corner. what do you guys think what will it be?
Probably just Eva listing some of the interaction that might happen at the beach. Something, something, might be delayed, blah blah blah. You know, the usual.
 

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Because a married old guy creeping on his much younger female employee has to be rewarded!
It's true, I always thought that that disgusting and degenerate old man was going to take advantage of Lena, especially on the route where we stole money. How frustrating to discover that degenerate and disgusting old men are so respectful of women, wait! Maybe it was because they no longer know He raises his cock and that would put him below Stan because he is a dirty otaku but he does have erections? :unsure: o_O:poop::LOL:
 

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Am I the only one Who is Waiting for Ian and Cherry to re-meet and Sex Scene with her, Do you think that there is any possibility there can be a meeting for Ian, Cherry, and Lena for a Threesome Sex Scene? :love: :devilish:
They just had a scene in the chapter 12 prologue.
Lena and Cherry burying the hachet would progress Cherrys storyline if anything (she is pretty isolated from the cast otherwise), repeating a threesome that got them into trouble in the first place seems hard. Ian already has to break up with one of them if he is dating them both. I get it as reward for ultimate chad Ian, but many aspects need to line up so that it wouldn't be out of character for Lena and Cherry.
 

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They just had a scene in the chapter 12 prologue.
Lena and Cherry burying the hachet would progress Cherrys storyline if anything (she is pretty isolated from the cast otherwise), repeating a threesome that got them into trouble in the first place seems hard. Ian already has to break up with one of them if he is dating them both. I get it as reward for ultimate chad Ian, but many aspects need to line up so that it wouldn't be out of character for Lena and Cherry.
Yup, path exclusivity is a pain in the ass; but it's warranted. Otherwise, the story will not make any sense in ORS. Hence some people prefer harem games where there is less chance of path exclusivity and pretty chill with the LIs.
 

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"Wholesome old man" creeping on his employee and getting all pissed off when she calls him out on it and demands he stops. So butthurt about it this pretty much permanently reduces his relationship with Lena to neutral, too.

Yeah, no. He's somewhere around Stan/Robert tier on the loser scale.
Ed has a mean left hook, I'd be scared if he gets angry like Stan and punches Lena. :KEK:
 
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