VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 FULL] [Eva Kiss]

[SearingFive]

I think part of the reason he's not seen as much is if Lena rejects him, then he's not gonna be shoved in the player's face. Just like Arthur in GGGB. If Lena's not on his route, then the last time she will have seen him is at the end of chapter 9. Right now, I think he's only an antagonist to Lena. Not so much Ian, at least not yet since the only way he can get on Seymour's bad side is if he calls him out after Lena rejected being his whore. To me, Seymour is the secondary antagonist. The main antagonist is Axel. The source of Lena's trauma, Ian's de facto archnemesis, possibly a traitor to Ivy, and a huge threat to Wade and Cindy's relationship. The game does well to show just how troublesome Axel is to everyone around him.

Ian summed it up pretty nicely regarding Axel's involvement in their lives in CH9 "That guy's shadow seemed to be everywhere..."

 

[Andrea9999]

Seymour is the antagonist of ORS, he is like a politician who can kiss a baby and then leave him homeless if he sees fit, in Lena's case it depends on us choosing which face we are going to see, if Ian and Lena are a couple and she is still with Seymour, is it going to be like 50 shades of NTR boring no sex?

You need to have a good RP with Stan, he will then offer Lena his mom's meatballs. Otherwise, he'll say "The kitchen is yours" and leave for his room.


Yeah, if declined. Seymour turns into a vindictive old rich guy with power; sabotaging the shit out of Lena's career. From Seymour's POV, he's just closing the mediocre or bad doors for Lena and steering her to reach the apex from the shadows. He's a true relativistic villain archetype.

I always had Lena having a good relationship with Stan. I just probably don't recall it and probably had Lena decline since I'm keeping her diet more plant based.

I have a game saved in which Lena has a relationship with Ian but is also (willingly) Seymour's doll and she keeps "wondering what Ian would think of this". In that game, Ian also has a good relationship with Seymour as I recall (it has been a long while since I played it). I imagine it will develop into Agnes/Seymour with two sex dolls to puppet or with Ian an ambivalent spectator to the situation.

 

[SearingFive]

I always had Lena having a good relationship with Stan. I just probably don't recall it and probably had Lena decline since I'm keeping her diet more plant-based.

I have a game saved in which Lena has a relationship with Ian but is also (willingly) Seymour's doll and she keeps "wondering what Ian would think of this". In that game, Ian also has a good relationship with Seymour as I recall (it has been a long while since I played it). I imagine it will develop into Agnes/Seymour with two sex dolls to puppets or with Ian an ambivalent spectator to the situation.

Oi, she does eat sushi though.. Lena will automatically accept the meatballs if they both have good RP.

Yeah, she does have those monologues on what will Ian think. Even Seymour asks her about it during the dinner date before the mirror arc. I am leaning towards maybe, Lena(slave to Seymour) will manipulate Ian to accept this condition with the publishing deal leverage.

For Ian to accept it, there are so many variables to play with. If he is a cuck it'll probably be auto-accepted. If he has some will, it will be our choice. If he has more charisma(chad), he might auto-reject.

TBH Seymour is fine, I really hate that old bag, Agnes. I hope she'll only show up if Lena is ok with Axel.

There is a hilarious reaction from chad or non-cuck Ian to a dom Lena. In chapter 11 epilogue.

 l "Maybe you want me to use my feet like the other day? I felt like I would've been able to make you cum with them too."
                if ian_lena_dom == 2 or ian_chad > 4:
                    i "You're talking too much... Why don't you use your mouth for something else?"
                else:
                    i "That felt nice, but I prefer your mouth. I want you to suck it..."
                play sound "sfx/giggle.mp3"
                "I giggled, amused at Ian's reaction. He deserved to be obeyed."

 

[Andrea9999]

Oi, she does eat sushi though.

Yeah, she does have those monologues on what will Ian think. Even Seymour asks her about it during the dinner date before the mirror arc. I am leaning towards maybe, Lena(slave to Seymour) will manipulate Ian to accept this condition with the publishing deal leverage.
For Ian to accept it, there are so many variables to play with. If he is a cuck it'll probably be auto-accepted. If he has some will, it will be our choice. If he has more charisma(chad), he might auto-reject.
TBH Seymour is fine, I really hate that old bag, Agnes. I hope she'll only show up if Lena is ok with Axel.

I think Agnes will be a shade darker than Seymour and introduce other participants in Lena's sessions; both as puppets and as unpredictable controllers. Seymour's offer to lend Lena to her could be a foreshadowing to the scenario I am predicting.

 

[Xupuzulla]

How can Seymour be a villain?hes making Lena rich

 

[SearingFive]

I think Agnes will be a shade darker than Seymour and introduce other participants in Lena's sessions; both as puppets and as unpredictable controllers. Seymour's offer to lend Lena to her could be a foreshadowing of the scenario I am predicting.

I got a feeling of a high-profile escort route from that interaction between Seymour/Agnes/and that opposition mayoral candidate.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

You know, has anyone talked about how Holly barely reacts when Ian call Minerva beautiful in front of her? She knows how much they beef with one another, yet she just says "Okay.." or something and never brings it up or confronts Ian.

 

[Andrea9999]

I got a feeling of a high-profile escort route from that interaction between Seymour/Agnes/and that opposition mayoral candidate.

While certainly possible, Seymour did introduce Lena to Agnes as a model with the offer to lend Lena to her. Also there was the earlier option in which Agnes directs Lena and Axel in a photo shoot. I feel the whole arc leans towards submission and exhibitionism and I believe EK also has the tag of BDSM for the game which will probably apply here. Still, the differences in our projections are not mutually exclusive.

 

[SearingFive]

You know, has anyone talked about how Holly barely reacts when Ian call Minerva beautiful in front of her? She knows how much they beef with one another, yet she just says "Okay.." or something and never brings it up or confronts Ian.

$ fholly = "sad"
            h "Did something happen? Are you in trouble with Minerva again...?"
            i "No, no... Don't worry. It's under control."
            h "Are you sure? I know she threatened to fire you..."
            $ fian = "smile"
            i "That's been resolved. She's not gonna fire me, in fact, she's reinstated the hours she cut from my schedule."
            $ fholly = "happy"
            h "Really? That's good news! How did you manage that?"
            i "I, uh, used some good reasoning. It took some hard negotiating, but in the end, I managed to make her see things my way."
            h "I'm glad!"

Ian already cleared it out with Holly before complimenting Minerva. This dialogue happens in chapter 7. Ian complimenting Minerva happens in chapter 10.

 

[SearingFive]

While certainly possible, Seymour did introduce Lena to Agnes as a model with the offer to lend Lena to her. Also there was the earlier option in which Agnes directs Lena and Axel in a photo shoot. I feel the whole arc leans towards submission and exhibitionism and I believe EK also has the tag of BDSM for the game which will probably apply here. Still, the differences in our projections are not mutually exclusive.

I am so not looking forward to watching that old bag Agnes. Her face and dialogue are so repulsive. EK did a good job. Welp, Lena is gonna get her ass handed by Agnes the vulture. Now I am curious about how light or heavy the BDSM theme is going to be with Seymour and Agnes.

 

[Leongen43]

You know, has anyone talked about how Holly barely reacts when Ian call Minerva beautiful in front of her? She knows how much they beef with one another, yet she just says "Okay.." or something and never brings it up or confronts Ian.

You're right, it's not a topic that's discussed a lot, in the games in which I have sex with Minerva ( ), I don't have a relationship with Holly and in the games in which I have a relationship with her, I don't do anything with Minerva ( ), and it's also possible that Holly won't react. because even though this bothers her inside, she is shy and has a submissive personality, for me she is the best option for Ian to have a happy relationship, I would also like to dye Ian blonde, have a Cherry relationship and trick Lena into having a threesome, I wonder how many blows to the head do I need for Ian to have the same intellectual level as Axel and say those incredible phrases ( )?

 

[Blurpee69]

Not that I'm saying Seymour isn't or hasn't had scenes approaching BDSM. But the tag is currently applied because of the Lena / Louise dynamic. While not outright shown yet the Axel / Lena relationship also seems to imply that there was some spanky and more than spanky stuff going on between them.

 

[SearingFive]

Not that I'm saying Seymour isn't or hasn't had scenes approaching BDSM. But the tag is currently applied because of the Lena / Louise dynamic. While not outright shown yet the Axel / Lena relationship also seems to imply that there was some spanky and more than spanky stuff going on between them.

Lena/Louise had chain and a bit of spanking. Axel had chain, spanking(don't remember) and choking. Also, Axel manhandled Lena at the WC in the nightclub. For Seymour, I believe we'll be having more heavy contraptions.
I also would like to see if Lena wears the 'submissive day collar' to cement her DOM/SUB relationship with her partner.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

$ fholly = "sad"
            h "Did something happen? Are you in trouble with Minerva again...?"
            i "No, no... Don't worry. It's under control."
            h "Are you sure? I know she threatened to fire you..."
            $ fian = "smile"
            i "That's been resolved. She's not gonna fire me, in fact, she's reinstated the hours she cut from my schedule."
            $ fholly = "happy"
            h "Really? That's good news! How did you manage that?"
            i "I, uh, used some good reasoning. It took some hard negotiating, but in the end, I managed to make her see things my way."
            h "I'm glad!"

Ian already cleared it out with Holly before complimenting Minerva. This dialogue happens in chapter 7. Ian complimenting Minerva happens in chapter 10.

Sure, but making her see things his way doesn't mean the beef is completely gone. If anything, it only makes things suspicious as hell. One day, your crush managed to convince your boss, then days after he calls her beautiful?

 

[Andrea9999]

Not that I'm saying Seymour isn't or hasn't had scenes approaching BDSM. But the tag is currently applied because of the Lena / Louise dynamic. While not outright shown yet the Axel / Lena relationship also seems to imply that there was some spanky and more than spanky stuff going on between them.

I haven't encountered the Lena/Louise dynamic; that sounds interesting. I have seen the threesome with Jeremy in which Lena sort of pushes Louise out of the way and the night at Ivy's.

Lena/Louise had chain and a bit of spanking. Axel had chain, spanking(don't remember) and choking. Also, Axel manhandled Lena at the WC in the nightclub. For Seymour, I believe we'll be having more heavy contraptions.
I also would like to see if Lena wears the 'submissive day collar' to cement her DOM/SUB relationship with her partner.

I imagine Seymour will introduce more contraptions seen in the sex shop. We have seen the Lovense Egg and the black wand...He may have Lena engage with the anal plug donkey tail and have her insert the horse cock dildo. I am sorry you do not appreciate the potential that Agnes may bring to the mix. When unclothed and ready to take Lena...you might see her in a more positive

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[SearingFive]

Sure, but making her see things his way doesn't mean the beef is completely gone. If anything, it only makes things suspicious as hell. One day, your crush managed to convince your boss, then days after he calls her beautiful?

If it were IRL, I'd be suspicious too. Now according to game logic, he cleared the air with Holly beforehand. So, she is not going to comment or confront Ian about it. Be it game logic or forgetfulness from EK to tie up those narrative loose ends. We have to accept the result at face value.

 

[SearingFive]

I haven't encountered the Lena/Louise dynamic; that sounds interesting. I have seen the threesome with Jeremy in which Lena sort of pushes Louise out of the way and the night at Ivy's.


I imagine Seymour will introduce more contraptions seen in the sex shop. We have seen the Lovense Egg and the black wand...He may have Lena engage with the anal plug donkey tail and have her insert the horse cock dildo. I am sorry you do not appreciate the potential that Agnes may bring to the mix. When unclothed and ready to take Lena...you might see her in a more positive

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Lena/Louise do have double-ended dildo play, spanking, licking/kissing the foot and collar play.
Oh, regarding Seymour/Lena BDSM, I was leaning towards a more heavy side like suspension bondage.
Yo, wtf!!! her body looks pretty young. If Agnes is even close to this I'll change my profile pic to Agnes and rename myself to your liking. Screenshot it if you must.

But I am getting this meme vibe from the pic, she's too good.

 

[Andrea9999]

Oh, regarding Seymour/Lena BDSM, I was leaning towards a more heavy side like suspension bondage.

That may be too confining. Lena moves around a lot in the Seymour sessions.

 

[SearingFive]

That may be too confining. Lena moves around a lot in the Seymour sessions.

Hmmm, he can confine her in the later stages of BDSM. If he goes with the maid-type BDSM/RP I'll be a bit disappointed.

 

[Blurpee69]

I haven't encountered the Lena/Louise dynamic; that sounds interesting. I have seen the threesome with Jeremy in which Lena sort of pushes Louise out of the way and the night at Ivy's.

You have to tell Louise about Jeremy's dalliances with Ivy. Then let Louise sleep with and kiss Lena. Buy the collar and the Lena can start being a dom to Louise. There are a couple of options for Lena to have Louise kiss her feet, the leash play, double ended dildo, Louise will call Lena mistress and even slip up at the concert and if Lena and Louise have a threesome with Ian or Mike.