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A personal issue I have is that Female AVN's often struggle from "starting boyfriend syndrome" and quite often a portion of their material centers around cucking said boyfriend/husband character.

Presumably GGGB started out similarly. I would have never played it if it wasn't for the fact that we can break up with Eric close to the start of the game.

Very few porn games feature a female lead who is also entirely independent and free to act on her own desires, that is the kind of content I enjoy personally.
 

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Yea this is also really annoying about a lot of female centered AVN. I hate it when the MC is male too.
I don't really play male MC games myself but at least on a forum like this they are tagged so you know if you're looking at a post for a female, male or multi protag game. I can just ignore those games.

The MC starting in a relationship doesn't have a tag though and is often even left out of the game's description too, so it can ambush you. I usually search threads with female protags for the words "boyfriend," "crush" and "husband," to make sure I'm not wasting my time on something with it or the inability to end those relationships.

I don't really like it for male MC perspective either, I have zero interest in Ian/Gillian and Lena/Axel. Similarly I am not very fond of Ian/Lena either because the game starts out promoting them as options for each other really heavily.
 
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Presumably GGGB started out similarly. I would have never played it if it wasn't for the fact that we can break up with Eric close to the start of the game.
Same I would lose interest from the get-go.

I don't really like it for male MC perspective either, I have zero interest in Ian/Gillian and Lena/Axel. Similarly I am not very fond of Ian/Lena either because the game starts out promoting them as options for each other really heavily.
Also, based on the poll that is posted in patreon, i have a haunch that EK wants to end this series for at least 4 more chapters to wrap up red string... so i really do hope that Gillian just moved on already and same goes to axel.
 

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Also, based on the poll that is posted in patreon, i have a haunch that EK wants to end this series for at least 4 more chapters to wrap up red string... so i really do hope that Gillian just moved on already and same goes to axel.
Well Axel is involved with Seymour, Ivy and Cindy so regardless of how I feel about him and Lena as a pairing he'll be around for story purposes and I'm good with that.

Gillian I thought was a dull addition to the game so late, I would be interested if her and Lena could somehow get involved, even if only casually though. For Ian's route she's clearly just cuck bait. Happy for the fans of that, just not my thing.
 
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yeah for sure, but um really?? people really enjoy Ian being a cuck? like lmao is that an irl thing or what (its not my thing but to each of their own course, but still...)
Yeah, to each their own. I think sharing and open relationships are fun and that naturally includes elements of cuckoldry by nature. I also kinda like Ian admiring from a distance, for example being subbed to Lena's SF is fun to me, some people would see that as cuck-ish, though without a relationship between them like when I play it doesn't quite fit.
 
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Yeah, to each their own. I think sharing and open relationships are fun and that naturally includes elements of cuckoldry by nature. I also kinda like Ian admiring from a distance, for example being subbed to Lena's SF is fun to me, some people would see that as cuck-ish, though without a relationship between them like when I play it doesn't quite fit.
I totally agree with what you said, it would be an improvement for me if it happened like that, maybe we have the option if we can use Lena to convince Ian with the MMF trio, who would be a better option Mike or Jeremy? :unsure: Axel is going to want to kill himself or kill us if he sees images of the meeting:eek: :KEK: (y)
 

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I also kinda like Ian admiring from a distance, for example being subbed to Lena's SF is fun to me, some people would see that as cuck-ish, though without a relationship between them like when I play it doesn't quite fit.
Ian simping for Lena when they're not in a relationship is a storyline I want to play on a non IanxLena save, but it's wildly inconsistent over the course of the game.

One minute he's saying he's cool with her not liking him and just being friends, the next he's fantasizing about her while jerking off to her nudes and getting jealous of other men flirting with and/or hooking up with her. Make it make sense, EK!
 
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I totally agree with what you said, it would be an improvement for me if it happened like that, maybe we have the option if we can use Lena to convince Ian with the MMF trio, who would be a better option Mike or Jeremy? :unsure: Axel is going to want to kill himself or kill us if he sees images of the meeting:eek: :KEK: (y)
I think it may be possible to do something with Mark actually. We know from GGGB that he's fine with another man present, since his scene in that game is with his friend Jacob. Mark can also get with both Holly and Lena so I don't think it's entirely impossible to imagine a Lena/Holly/Mark/Ian scene if Ian is into it too.
 
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Mmm, I see and it is just that it kinda hits hard when you are the one experiencing it irl 'cause I remember my ex in college whom suggested for an open relationship from a get-go (coming from experience, it means shes having a cock carousel behind my back from the start). I manage to recover and up dating a mormon girl for those who are concern with my well being. Also,I do hope EK would satisfy everyone with their kink by the end of this series and up a masterpiece like GGGB.
 

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I see Perry and Wade in a different light. In Perry's case, he's content with his situation. So content that the player has to work to get him to move. None of his bitching is about his situation. Even then, he changes. He can hook up with Emma or get close with Cherry, and he can even get a job he enjoys at the café. As for Wade, once again he was super content with his situation. His complaining was about Cindy and her not being happy about it. Even then, he's capable of having an epiphany and deciding to break up with her. As for Louise, she's needy and toxic, but she goes after what she wants. As I said, I had sympathy for Alison at the start. She was dealt a shitty hand at the start of the game; however, but she seems to be the only character who seems to be actively making herself miserable. She claims she doesn't want a serious relationship, but it seems obvious she's jealous of her college friends settling down and having kids. She talks about how much she hates her job, but even with a bad economy, she could be putting out resumes or looking for jobs in other cities. She claims everyone else is incompetent and how the place would fall apart without her, but she doesn't do anything about it. Wade has things he enjoys; Perry has things he enjoys; Louise has things that make her happy. All Alison does is complain and play the victim. Everything is always someone else's fault. Do people do it IRL? Yes. Is Alison a bad character? No. She's just a character I lost sympathy towards after way too many playthroughs. In a sense, the theme of this game is chasing your dreams, and Alison is either the only character not doing so or doing it in the dumbest way possible. YMMV.

I've seen three studies since 2016 that have similar data. A few things I remember: 50% of relationships will experience infidelity. Someone who has cheated before is 2.5 times more likely to cheat in the future than someone who has never cheated. Among both genders, the likelihood of cheating decreases with age. It is a slight decrease among men, and a much sharper one among women. One argued it was situational, i.e. it's easier to cheat on a partner when you're just dating and going to clubs regularly than when you have a spouse, kids, a mortgage, and a ton of responsibilities. One argued it was generational. Older people were raised to be more sexually conservative, especially women.

Women in their twenties are three to four times more likely to cheat then men in their twenties. Women in their thirties are still significantly more likely to cheat. Once you get into their forties, though, men become slightly more likely to cheat. While I don't remember any reasons, I can venture some guesses. It's easier for women to find sexual partners. I remember one social experiment at a college where they had attractive men and women proposition people of the opposite sex. Women had a 75% success rate; men had 0%. If a young women wants to find a sexual partner, she can generally succeed. In turn, if a woman is inclined to cheat, it is easier for her to do so. A woman's sexual appeal is closely tied to her appearance so as she ages, it becomes harder. A man's sexual appeal is often tied to other things such as confidence, success, or wealth. These depreciate less as a man ages. There is also the 80-20 rule, which is 80% of women are pursuing the same 20% of men. Which ties into another aspect: men who cheat cheat more often. So you end up with more women cheating less and less men cheating more. At least that's what I remember. I mostly remember the first one because it went against everything I had been told, and I remember the other two because they were consistent with the first one. Things like the 80-20 rule were unrelated but seemed to fit with what I remember.
Perry being content with his situation makes his whining even more pathetic and cringy. Dude have even audacity to complain about Cindy wanting to spend more time with Wade, when their relationship is on the rocks. He either drinks beer and play video games alone, or with Wade. Also his constant nostalgia for their teen years; how great it was to go to the same bar and drink beer, but when Emma says that this bar and many other places will be closed due to worsening economic situation he quickly wants to change the subject the second she says that people need to organize and protest. Dude even throws a hissy fit, when Ian won't fully sponsor their little vacation in latest chapter. He is manchild of privelege.

You say that Alison whines about her situation and do nothing about it. I mean, it's hard to make changes in the company when you're not in the management. Then you are seeking promotion, but losing to useless nepo baby. What's wrong with wanting to vent about that frustrating situation.
As for not sending resumes to other cities, the company she worked for owes her a lot of money, which she will not get. Economic situation forced her to return living with her parents. She spent her whole life in one place; her friends, family, career, love of her life are in Baluart. It's hard to leave that many things behind.

I wouldn't go into that whole cheating statistic, since the data are all over the place from many sources.

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Mmm, I see and it is just that it kinda hits hard when you are the one experiencing it irl 'cause I remember my ex in college whom suggested for an open relationship from a get-go (coming from experience, it means shes having a cock carousel behind my back from the start).
It wasn't behind your back though if she suggested the arrangement up front from the get-go, those are contradicting statements.
 

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It would be really cool to see a scene like that especially since they all can get along in the story, it could also be interesting Lena/Emma/Ian/Jeremy because Lena has a friendly relationship with Emma, also seeing Emma having double penetration while she eats Lena's vagina would be hot to watch, wouldn't it?:unsure: :love:
The premise is fine but I'm not personally into Jeremy very much. I also suspect Lena/Emma would have to potentially happen before any moresomes with the two of them.
 
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It wasn't behind your back though if she suggested the arrangement up front from the get-go, those are contradicting statements.
I saw her with another guy near my campus and i was at my dorm window that happened. Then, as I greet her at my door thats the time she suggested for an open-relationship. I legit felt sick in my stomach when she has the audacity to say that after I saw them kissed one another, but luckily after my break up with my ex, my best bro from hs suggested this mormon girl (going strong for 3 years now)
 

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I saw her with another guy near my campus and i was at my dorm window that happened. Then, as I greet her at my door thats the time she suggested for an open-relationship. I legit felt sick in my stomach when she has the audacity to say that after I saw them kissed one another, but luckily after my break up with my ex, my best bro from hs suggested this mormon girl (going strong for 3 years now)
So she didn't suggest it from the get-go, she suggested it after being caught? That's different, then she betrayed you.
If it's for a relationship Jeremy is no good but if it's for sex it can work, besides after seeing Emma/Perry together I need to erase that horrible image from my head :sick: and that would be a good start, after that I think twice if I want to see all the content of a game:(:poop:(n)
I disagree, I don't find Jeremy very interesting regardless of relationship status or not.
 
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