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I can share you the whole scene, since it's (mercifully) just one picture. Just remember what curiosity did to a cat.
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That's neat, cus on the cheating Ian + faithful Lena combo, you get good Jess and she won't go for it. If you turn her into bad Jess, you could probably cheat on Lena with her? I dunno.
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Will Lenna become a mega cuckqueen?
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Hmm a fun fact: if during the Never Have I Ever game Ian admits to having played with his own butt, the game records this in a flag. Technically this is just for comment from Perry, but now wonder if this will maybe get some use on either dominant Lena path, or during the MMF experimenting... 
Maybe there is a third optionHmm a fun fact: if during the Never Have I Ever game Ian admits to having played with his own butt, the game records this in a flag. Technically this is just for comment from Perry, but now wonder if this will maybe get some use on either dominant Lena path, or during the MMF experimenting...
Are there any other flags triggered? While I really enjoyed this update, I won't lie, the Never Have I Ever game came across as a bit of a disappointment. Ian being able to admit to some butt play and Perry being socially clueless about his cheated on comment were the only highlights from what I've seen of the responses. Learning the Lena had an abortion was... sad, even if she isn't in a slut route.Hmm a fun fact: if during the Never Have I Ever game Ian admits to having played with his own butt, the game records this in a flag. Technically this is just for comment from Perry, but now wonder if this will maybe get some use on either dominant Lena path, or during the MMF experimenting...
No other flags for Ian that i can see. There's however one for Lena admitting she's had wet dreams about her step-dad, and to having one night stand(s) in the past.
Also, the abortion thing is only for Lena with Lust background, not an universal thing.
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here are some screenshots of some of the flags
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Note, most of these (
v12_never_everX) are just used to hide questions the players have already asked.
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It's a mod. It's called Universal Choice Descriptor. You can download it on this site.
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nah I hate it there is already a path were hollys inner slut is only for ian
know we have a cool path were holly is fucking like half of the city (so dont turn this path into vanilla or holly inner slut for ian only)
we already have a holly ian vanilla/corruption path
so the current holly which is the best scene in this chapter
so f hot....should be for guys like me the conniseurs/gillian enjoyers because you guys already have vanilla path and corruption only for ian path
so dont destroy holly slut path if ian can get into a relationship holly is slutty/gillian 2.0 in that route and not only for ian
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eva dont listen to that guy plsss...Still trying out several path combinations, but I can say that if slutty Holly and Ian get together, there is a major fork coming for Holly.
While she certainly had fun becoming a wild girl (and likes her friends Lena/Ivy/Co.), she did so in the, partly mistaken depending how we play him, belief Ian prefers wild, slutty girls. That becomes blatantly clear by Holly´s actions and dialog in the Ian/Holly scene, her changes came to be due to the hope to have a chance with Ian one day.
Now that this has happened (by the way the hottest and partly cute scene in the update), there are several options I see how Holly develops further:
a) now being in a relationship with Ian, she stops getting sluttier and reserves her wild side for him. She got what she changed for.
b) like a, but with Ian lovingly encouraging Holly to develop her wild side a bit more to a common comfort level. Nothing big, e.g. her going topless on the beach, just a bit here and there, they are in a dedicated love relationship after all.
c) Ian and Holly recognise that they really like her slutty side and she is encouraged to develop it further a lot more.
As said I think this will depend on how we play Ian. For example, a shyer, reserved Ian will be more comfortable with a and b, while Chad Ian might prefer b or c.
By the way, Holly learned quite a bit writing fantasy books, teleporting out of her underwear! Who knows what else...
big fan of gillian/slutty holly ....
pls let slutty holly be gillian 2.0 and plsssss O BEG YOU EVA pls give them a relationship and let her be a secret slut
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In the gallery there are some WIP scenes for Lena. Is it impossible to unlock them at the moment?
so Ivy narc to Lena if Ian in relationship with Cindy during the beach scene, any way to avoid this?
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Still playing some side routes and discovering things, but the alpha overall gets a thumbs-up from me. We've been building towards the Ian/Lena/Holly threesome for quite a while, it was heavily teased that this would be the update where it happened, and there it is. I think it's handled extremely well in how it comes about: conversations leading towards it but in the end having good timing for the three of them to be alone on the beach, and the way it just seems to start under its own steam. I appreciate that Eva works a way for it to happen whether Ian is dating Lena or dating Holly, and that there are subtle but real dialogue and description shifts to account for that, while the content and images are the same. That the evening ends in a subdued way with them quietly making their way back to the others, and then drowsily sharing a bed for the night, is exactly right imo. Eva got the big thing right, not just in this chapter, but in what ostensibly the game has been building towards to this point.
That the rest of the update is in a bit of a lower key is just how things go. Someone already said the scene of slutty Holly making her move on Ian was the best other scene this update, and I'd agree. (Willing to add Ian punishing Lena to the shortlist also but that's not on a main playthrough for me and I haven't seen it yet.) As Turret helpfully explained, it will be very interesting to see where a slutty HollyxIan relationship can go from here. I personally would not have rewarded Perry with a night with Emma for any reason, but it's in there for the players who wanted that. Thanks to ffive for sharing the one screenshot associated with that turn of events, and now I never have to look at it again.
I thought the Never Have I Ever game was done well, perhaps a little more low-energy than I would have wanted, but good in that it doesn't affect anything for the characters, though it was a nice touch that Ian and others get progressively more amazed when a slutty Holly drinks at various points. I did enjoy Eva basically trolling all of us with Lena's little "oh, I had a sexy dream about my stepdad" bit. But finding out Lena had an abortion way back when was a record scratch for me, a little too jarring imo for a VN. The rest of the info was enjoyable without being particularly memorable. It turns out women fake orgasms sometimes and men sometimes have performance issues - gosh, who knew? I laughed at Wade never crying at a movie, which seems 100% in his character.
Speaking of Wade, various folks have made comments, joking and serious, about Wade "starting his redemption arc" with this update: pics with the girls, a little sunscreen for Lena, a little flirting with Lena in the ocean. Remember too he drinks along with everyone else when the question of "never have I ever fantasized about someone in this group" comes up, and Ian wonders who it might be but doesn't wonder too much. I'm all for a redemption arc for him, in fact I think it started last update with his post-freakout look in the mirror and becoming more convinced about next steps (stay together/break up) with Cindy. A thought which may get explored in Chapter 13: when a slutty Holly makes her move on Ian, the roommate situation is Holly with Lena and Ian with Wade. Ian worries briefly about Wade walking in on them, and Holly says "Don't worry, he won't interrupt us tonight..." Is that because Wade is passed-out drunk with Perry somewhere, because Emma has rejected Perry and Wade went to drink with him? Or is that because Wade is in Holly and Lena's room with Lena?...
That the rest of the update is in a bit of a lower key is just how things go. Someone already said the scene of slutty Holly making her move on Ian was the best other scene this update, and I'd agree. (Willing to add Ian punishing Lena to the shortlist also but that's not on a main playthrough for me and I haven't seen it yet.) As Turret helpfully explained, it will be very interesting to see where a slutty HollyxIan relationship can go from here. I personally would not have rewarded Perry with a night with Emma for any reason, but it's in there for the players who wanted that. Thanks to ffive for sharing the one screenshot associated with that turn of events, and now I never have to look at it again.
I thought the Never Have I Ever game was done well, perhaps a little more low-energy than I would have wanted, but good in that it doesn't affect anything for the characters, though it was a nice touch that Ian and others get progressively more amazed when a slutty Holly drinks at various points. I did enjoy Eva basically trolling all of us with Lena's little "oh, I had a sexy dream about my stepdad" bit. But finding out Lena had an abortion way back when was a record scratch for me, a little too jarring imo for a VN. The rest of the info was enjoyable without being particularly memorable. It turns out women fake orgasms sometimes and men sometimes have performance issues - gosh, who knew? I laughed at Wade never crying at a movie, which seems 100% in his character.
Speaking of Wade, various folks have made comments, joking and serious, about Wade "starting his redemption arc" with this update: pics with the girls, a little sunscreen for Lena, a little flirting with Lena in the ocean. Remember too he drinks along with everyone else when the question of "never have I ever fantasized about someone in this group" comes up, and Ian wonders who it might be but doesn't wonder too much. I'm all for a redemption arc for him, in fact I think it started last update with his post-freakout look in the mirror and becoming more convinced about next steps (stay together/break up) with Cindy. A thought which may get explored in Chapter 13: when a slutty Holly makes her move on Ian, the roommate situation is Holly with Lena and Ian with Wade. Ian worries briefly about Wade walking in on them, and Holly says "Don't worry, he won't interrupt us tonight..." Is that because Wade is passed-out drunk with Perry somewhere, because Emma has rejected Perry and Wade went to drink with him? Or is that because Wade is in Holly and Lena's room with Lena?...