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Wish we got the new chapter already my bros. Can't believe it's like a year since the last chapter release. This content drought is taking a hit on my wanking quota my bros.
Very well, you are now exempt from the need to refrain during No Nut November.
*Scribbles down notes, and updates mysterious and esoteric documents.*

I've jotted a few things down for you so now Santa Claus won't look badly on, uh, certain activities that you may or may not or will take during that upcoming month when he looks back to check. You won't be dinged for it. Have fun and cheers!

Note: This is a one-time deal; so for others, it's unlikely you'll also get this rare exemption. Sorry, but Robotic got it first. ^^
 

Turret

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Eva´s, by far, biggest development mistake this year was her letting the patrons vote about releasing the Ian-part of part 10 for itself! That is a "never ever" mistake! You have to have an open ear for your patrons, give them some gimmicks, the works. But never let them vote on important meta-questions! In 99.9% they will choose the worst option! That is not hyperbole (at least not much), but an observation.
For instance, a very popular TTRPG in my home country is now nearly comatose, since the current developers listened far too much and often to the fanboys. Due to this, the current edition is overpriced, divided into too many books and lost any appeal to the masses due to nearly arcane rule levels! And they too have a problem with releases, since the fanboys favoured niche factions in the votes, whereas the real popular factions are halfbaked or not even released yet.

Not releasing the Ian part is seriously hurting Eva´s image on how reliable she is and let´interest in the wider audience fade! The two Devs of "Pale Carnations"(you can see in my sig) had a phase where real life hit them really hard and repeatedly. The part then in development took a lot longer, no surprise. But they recognised that a certain flow of updates is better than no updates. They released the part about 80% done and most paths developed as far as they should be. The other 20% came later as a special update. Very few people were critical of the "first part", the vast majority knew about the problems they had and that they released to show their audience that they were comitted to their game.
 

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Eva´s, by far, biggest development mistake this year was her letting the patrons vote about releasing the Ian-part of part 10 for itself! That is a "never ever" mistake! You have to have an open ear for your patrons, give them some gimmicks, the works. But never let them vote on important meta-questions! In 99.9% they will choose the worst option! That is not hyperbole (at least not much), but an observation.
For instance, a very popular TTRPG in my home country is now nearly comatose, since the current developers listened far too much and often to the fanboys. Due to this, the current edition is overpriced, divided into too many books and lost any appeal to the masses due to nearly arcane rule levels! And they too have a problem with releases, since the fanboys favoured niche factions in the votes, whereas the real popular factions are halfbaked or not even released yet.

Not releasing the Ian part is seriously hurting Eva´s image on how reliable she is and let´interest in the wider audience fade! The two Devs of "Pale Carnations"(you can see in my sig) had a phase where real life hit them really hard and repeatedly. The part then in development took a lot longer, no surprise. But they recognised that a certain flow of updates is better than no updates. They released the part about 80% done and most paths developed as far as they should be. The other 20% came later as a special update. Very few people were critical of the "first part", the vast majority knew about the problems they had and that they released to show their audience that they were comitted to their game.
I highly disagree!

Releasing just Ian's part is not the solution; it's just a band-aid.

I do not understand why people are even pushing for this notion when it's evocative of the bigger issue that many games on here have. It's how it usually goes. The updates start taking longer and longer time and eventually the dev starts splitting the game into "routes".

"Oh this time it's 'X Route' but in 4 months it's 'Y Route'!" which usually amounts to like one update per a year and half.
 

Lecastel

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its been a long time since the game had a proper update,feels like eternity.the remaster has fuck it all up,i think eva got burned out,or simply enjoying the fruits of her fanbase,you know what i mean :KEK: ,oh comeon guys 6+ months is a trend for devs now,and theres this one popular game that updated in a year,i could name a few devs but thats gonna be a riot.and thats what you get for making complex stories.this game aint got shit on GGGB. :KEK:
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Look at you !! you finally admitted we're best friends. Despite our differences i knew this day would come.
We're like Jaskier and Geralt :D, too bad i can't sing as well as him though :rolleyes:
Haha I remember we were arguing about the development terms, but I don't target everyone I disagree with as an enemy:p
Jaskier, just don't do this again:
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Can anyone tell me if the minerva path was removed?

I read in this thread that if you behave badly towards her and you ask lena or holly to deliver ian's resumé that eventually on the day ian was supposed to get fired she would call ian to her office but the game fails to trigger that supposed sequence. what am i missing?!

thank you in advance
 

King Tommen

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Can anyone tell me if the minerva path was removed?

I read in this thread that if you behave badly towards her and you ask lena or holly to deliver ian's resumé that eventually on the day ian was supposed to get fired she would call ian to her office but the game fails to trigger that supposed sequence. what am i missing?!

thank you in advance
No. Be confrontational to her, write honest review (or swich with Holly), go to the office when Seymour visits. You need 5 Wits or Charisma.
 

selberdreher

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she has given the actual sources of her isnpirations if I remember correctly but many months ago !
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I think there was a more complete list, these were a few i found with a quick search.
 

dontcarewhateverno

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Evelyn Claire, yes she does.
No doubt the closest irl resemblance to Lena, I would even venture to say that Lena was probably based on her.
Facial shape not quite the same, especially in jawline. Plus she's missing the boobs. TBH, this girl's face is asthetically a little more attractive than Lena's, too. But yes. This photo looks closer to any I've seen as far as resembling her. Even more than Shaiden Rogue (despite Eva tracing a lot of Shaiden's porn scenes for Lena). Who knows, though. If slut-path Lena gets progressively grosser and more plastic-looking (botox lips, ect) like slut-Ash did in GGGB, she'll likely become Shaiden's spitting image.

My best guess is that Lena's either a composite of a couple models (including Shaiden without the extra make-up and painted-on eyebrows), or her face is based on an unknown social-media rando we'll never spot, who's never done porn or acting. Maybe with just enough changes (hair color, flesh-tone) so she won't sue Eva's ass to oblivion if she ever runs across the game.

I'm honestly more curious about who Ash in GGGB is based on.

IMO, one drawback to all the traced art here when creating characters that aren't 100% based on a single porn star is that their faces tend to change from scene to scene, as both Lena and Ash do. Somehow, Eva's been pretty consistent with Holly, despite the fact that she's using models that don't quite look like her to trace her porn scenes. Could be because we haven't seen as many sex scenes with her though.
 
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spainhorse

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one of the reasons this update takes longer is because most people want to play Ian and Lena paths in the same update. Eva had a poll to see if people want to just have Ian path in September (or August?). The complexity of this game is different from other games tho. It just has so many different combinations.
 

Turret

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one of the reasons this update takes longer is because most people want to play Ian and Lena paths in the same update. Eva had a poll to see if people want to just have Ian path in September (or August?). The complexity of this game is different from other games tho. It just has so many different combinations.
Hardly most people, that was a poll for patrons only and even among them there were many who wanted an early Ian release. I wrote it a couple posts above, that poll was Eva´s biggest mistake this year! You simply cannot let others dictate you your development cycles and updates by a minority. Closed Polls reach only few people and among those even less eligibles vote in the end. See my post 26.916, why I consider these polls cardinal development sins.
 

spainhorse

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Hardly most people, that was a poll for patrons only and even among them there were many who wanted an early Ian release. I wrote it a couple posts above, that poll was Eva´s biggest mistake this year! You simply cannot let others dictate you your development cycles and updates by a minority. Closed Polls reach only few people and among those even less eligibles vote in the end. See my post 26.916, why I consider these polls cardinal development sins.
I also want Ian part to be released early, and I'm her patron. However, I really can't blame Eva for delaying it. Developers need to make their patrons happy because they pay the bill. I would do the same if I were in her position.
 
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elysium1988

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Can anyone confirm if the Alison bark sequence has been removed from the game. I have played the game a couple of times since the remaster and tried to trigger the segment in the scene but haven't been able to do so. Can anyone confirm if it has been removed or maybe guide me how to get the scene. Thanks.
 

King Tommen

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Can anyone confirm if the Alison bark sequence has been removed from the game. I have played the game a couple of times since the remaster and tried to trigger the segment in the scene but haven't been able to do so. Can anyone confirm if it has been removed or maybe guide me how to get the scene. Thanks.
You need 5 Lust and when she asks you if she is your favorite person you have to choose 'Yes, you are' and then 'You're such a slut'
There is also a walkthrough that should answer these questions.
 
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dolfe67

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Hardly most people, that was a poll for patrons only and even among them there were many who wanted an early Ian release. I wrote it a couple posts above, that poll was Eva´s biggest mistake this year! You simply cannot let others dictate you your development cycles and updates by a minority. Closed Polls reach only few people and among those even less eligibles vote in the end. See my post 26.916, why I consider these polls cardinal development sins.
20% patrons only wanted the Ian's part early. It might be different including pirates, but maybe not more than 50% imo. And Eva didn't want to release Ian's part only but was feeling pressured to do it so she made a poll. In your scenario Eva would release the update when it's ready with Ian and Eva parts without asking anyone.
 
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