McWoodz

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Again, she graduated highschool. There's whole conversations about her going to her plans to go off to college. It's not just a detail that was mentioned once, there is storyline context that doesn't make sense unless she is at the very least 17 (and that's assuming she skipped a grade).



Yes. When you father a child, you have a responsibility to said child. Unless your fantasy is to be a piece of shit deadbeat dad, that's going to mean considerable restrictions on your freedom.



Yea...you keep saying that...do you think that emojis back that up? Because I don't see you offering up much in the way of reasoning here as to what exactly is "demented" about what I said.



It's the fantasy. The fantasy is fucked. The scenarios played out in the game create a fantasy, and now the fantasy goes from "young, tight, athletic, gorgeous women forming a live-in harem for you" to "young women getting pregnant, bodies going down hill and you being flooded with responsibility and obligation until you're at least 60."

Total buzz-kill.



Ok, so then let me ask you this: if the consequences and the results are going to be present...then what's the point? What's the appeal? Why put it in there to begin with?

It's there for people who get turned on by pregnancy to think about pregnancy. It builds a fantasy for those people. And that's fine for them. But it's for that very reason, however, that people who are hugely turned off by pregnancy are bothered by it.

It's in the game in order to elicit an emotional response. That's why it's there. Seems silly of me to question why people who don't like are having exactly that.



She is a fictional character. She wants whatever the writer decides she wants. And she can change her mind for the same reason.



OK, but if it's so minor...why would it be so much work to simply have those particular dialogues cut and everything else be the same? A simple line put somewhere in the game about her going on the pill, a few bits of text cut out and you're golden...

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On a side-note...was the futuristic stuff always been in the game? I started playing when it launched, it's been a long time since I played those early days; but I definitely don't remember that dialogue at all...
Wow. You still going on?

2 of those quotes from me weren't even from me.
I'm not even sure how you did that.
I'm equal parts impressed and disturbed.

I'd make a fair and reasoned response to your points but I don't feel like reading through all that and there's just no arguing with crazy soooo.... Bye!
 

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While I will admit I don't like the idea of having sex with a character that seem to be underage I don't have a problem with her character in general.

I'd love a gamer girl daughter, we could do gamer family stuff.

One thing I have thought about to myself for a long time is I would love a Sofi spin off with her as MC in a lesbo game. That would be awesome.

I also enjoyed the good husband route. I can get behind straight romance, I like a good soppy story.

I just want to see Sofi have a happy home.

I wouldn't mind the harem path but leave Ada alone and have her as built in babysitter. I know people love her though.
It is not just about Ada, but rather about how she was presented:
- It is obvious that she is MC's daughter and they are blood-related. On a walk in the forest, he mentions that the name of his restaurant (Shaws) came from the surname of her grandfather. Even without it, she is his daughter. You don't have to be blood-related to being a parent. To be honest, I am not much fan of incest. When it is about siblings I can let it pass, but parent-children relations really turn me off, especially when it applies to the underage daughter.
- At the begging, the author claims that Ada is not going to be sexualized within this game. However, it is not entire true.
- If I good remember, she sleeps naked, knowing that MC may come to wake her up.
- She was spying at her parents, while they were making love. Moreover, she was even touching herself during it.
- A conversation with her the next day was at least strange. What's more, there was an option about teaching her something in that matter.
- She is completely clueless about sex stuff, which only undermines her age. I mean, she acts like she is 8 years old, not 18 years old.
- In the shop center, when we met Sofi for the first time, Ada's clothes were just too revealing. Why couldn't she try something more appropriate for her age?
- It is clear to me that Sofi has a crush on Ada. We can see it during a conversation at the meeting in a cafe. However, it is obvious that the difference in age between them is just too big.
- The whole situation with the stranger breaking into our home, and putting "something" on her face, was just disgusting.
I mean, even without incest patch, it is obvious that there is something more. And I don't really like it.

I agree that spin-off with Sofi would be nice. But without this forced prostitution thing. Let's leave it in the past.

As I said, I've enjoyed Emily path. However, to be honest, I don't like MC so much. He is too much macho type for me. I wouldn't trust him if I was her.

I don't mind a path focused on MC with Jenna, or even threesome (e.g. Jenna+Emily+MC) or foursome, but maybe without any underage member.
 
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The fantasy is fucked. The scenarios played out in the game create a fantasy, and now the fantasy goes from "young, tight, athletic, gorgeous women forming a live-in harem for you" to "young women getting pregnant, bodies going down hill and you being flooded with responsibility and obligation until you're at least 60."
No, thats just you. You imagination is fucked. The responsibilites of fictional characters never weigh down on me like the way you claim it does with you. For me the game stops where it actually stops. I don't start imagining up shit that i'd find disturbing. I won't conjure up fanasies over childsupport. Even if i do, out of fun to play with ideas, it doesn't puts me in a depressed mood.

I DO have phobias. I do have things that can upset me. But thats my issue. Not the game's. Its me who have certain mental hygiene issues, meaning i react poorly to certain specific setups. But i'm fully aware that its my fault. You on the other hand blame the game for it.

It has been stated explicitly clear that the future of the family won't be depicted. There won't be "ruined" bodies, obligations and responsibility. Thats just your imagination bending the wrong way.
 

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One thing I have a problem with is that Sofi claimed she was a hard core lesbian, probably because of the abuse by drug dealing douchebags. Then she meets the MC and suddenly she is not a lesbian any longer, yes she still likes girls but really who doesn't.
The idea that a lesbian turns because of meeting the right man is kind of ludicrous.
I realize you can claim she never met a non-abusive guy until she met the MC, and I might even buy into that. But her having sex of any kind with him for pleasure would have to take time, he would have to gradually gain her trust.
Yes this is a game and there are parameters that are necessary to move the game forward, but sex with her should be the last girl. Her having panic attacks without him could have been the beginning of a sexual relationship with him.
 

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The idea that a lesbian turns because of meeting the right man is kind of ludicrous.
As a lesbian that usually pisses me off something fierce but I let it slide here for one reason only, I ignore that line about her being a lesbian because everything that happens makes no fucking sense otherwise.

I just take it as her meaning she only enjoyed sex with women because she hated the men she was forced to have sex with.
 
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Felt like Lux had allot of interesting and good ideas, just had trouble putting them down on paper. Update consisted of you being on phone, a telenovela tier revelation with Sofi and tournament full of sick memes, which I enjoyed thoroughly.
 

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The idea that a lesbian turns because of meeting the right man is kind of ludicrous.
Yes it is. But the idea that you believe Sofi to know this fully well and not just lie/not-know-well-enough is just as ludicrous to be honest. What she went through breeds menhaters but thats not lesbianism. Just because she said that doesn't mean she knows it right. After what she went through it shouldn't be suprising that she has issues which includes, and not limited to, being confused over sexual orientation.
 

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Yes it is. But the idea that you believe Sofi to know this fully well and not just lie/not-know-well-enough is just as ludicrous to be honest. What she went through breeds menhaters but thats not lesbianism. Just because she said that doesn't mean she knows it right. After what she went through it shouldn't be suprising that she has issues which includes, and not limited to, being confused over sexual orientation.
i agree and can Luxee make the reporter have sex with MC later?i have a boner when i see her for the first time
 

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Ada, what’s wrong with some guy’s here. In DMD beside the incest with D Jennifer is smaller then Ada. Underage girls or boys, Rape, torture, blood or fucking your neighbours pig or dog are games here, and these violence as well under the forbidden Law in USA. To be a judge on this side, you wrong already when you open this page or start a game. This game is great with NTR route even better.
 
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privitude The tournament requires underage participants to be accompanied by a guardian.
The reason the MC is alone with Ada is *because* she is underage.

The only high school she finished would be the *looks it up in wikipedia* Junior High School, making her 13-14.
 

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Ada, what’s wrong with some guy’s here. In DMD beside the incest with D Jennifer is smaller then Ada. Rape, torture, blood or fucking your neighbours pig or dog are games here, and these violence as well under the forbidden Law in USA. To be a judge on this side, you wrong already when you open this page or start a game. This game is great with NTR route even better.
 

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These two points were from me, not McWoodz , BTW.

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I doubt that this game will go long into the consequences beyond setting up a multi-pregnancy household situation, though.
Ok, so then let me ask you this: if the consequences and the results are going to be present...then what's the point? What's the appeal? Why put it in there to begin with?

It's there for people who get turned on by pregnancy to think about pregnancy. It builds a fantasy for those people. And that's fine for them. But it's for that very reason, however, that people who are hugely turned off by pregnancy are bothered by it.

It's in the game in order to elicit an emotional response. That's why it's there. Seems silly of me to question why people who don't like are having exactly that.
For this first point, Luxee is telling a story that seemed obvious to me - and which was, coincidentally confirmed by Luxee in a subsequent post - where there will be a "they lived happily ever after" (nor not!) future in whatever is revealed as each path's final conditions which we can experience directly ... then it will end and we can consider what that might imply for the characters' future(s).
Why did I feel that way? Because that's how the other paths played out and I saw no indications from the Dev that the Harem or Forbidden paths would be any more special in their handling of future events after their main elements were put into place.

As for the pregnancy issue, that's the Dev's choice (as you have admitted) and they apparently felt it seemed a natural element to include in the still-developing paths. It fits within a narrative previously established (as I mentioned) and I feel it will be interesting to see how the potential supporting elements for the pregnancy align: will the Sweetie/Elly path, which saw Jenna become a live-in partner and supporter of raising new kid(s), imply that the Harem and/or Forbidden paths could see a multi-member child support arrangement (i.e., for the Harem) or maybe something like a Sofi partner+support arrangement (i.e., Forbidden)?

We don't know how this facet of the storylines will play out yet, but can conjecture from what has already been seen as Luxee's style for this VN. It's fun to think ahead on these kinds of things. Emotional response? Sure, if you are paying and don't like pregnancy AT ALL in this context, either suck it up and accept the changing world being a mix of things you enjoy and don't *or* stop supporting the Dev's effort. I stopped being a Patron after A69 was put on hold but decided that the strength of this installment should bring me back: we all have different likes and dislikes, that's just life.

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I don't understand this point in relation to the game. Luxee is telling a story and Elly has wanted to get preggers with the MC since early on.
She is a fictional character. She wants whatever the writer decides she wants. And she can change her mind for the same reason.
On this second point, I was talking about not understanding YOUR point in relation to the game: of course Luxee can decide what the character should feel, do, etc. That was my statement about Elly's desire to get pregnant, which was not made secret over the past installments.

If you don't appreciate that reality to the extent of it souring your entire experience with the game, sorry to hear but I guess you won't have much more to say in this forum which is relevant to the game itself, going forward.
 
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