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Gilf/milf has always been about age. Not about whether or not they have kids. You know most of the porn stars labeled "milfs" don't have kids right? Milf means someone old enough to have to me a mom, not necessarily that they are a mom. And Gilf just means they're a senior citizen, but still attractive. The M and G in front are just used to convey the fact that they're old enough to actually be a mom or grandmother, not that they necessarily are one. You wouldn't call an 18 year old a milf just because she has a kid. Milf is just short hand for saying a woman is around middle aged, but still hot. I would never call someone in their 20s a milf regardless of whether or not they have kids. Most people don't use the terms literally. 35 is like the earliest I'd ever call someone a milf and 60s at the earliest is when I think of Gilf.

I get you and Dom are older than I am but I'm 25 and nobody I know actually uses the terms to refer to someone who has kids or grandkids
MILF literally means "Mother I'd Like to Fuck" & GILF means "Grandmother I'd Like to Fuck". So by definition it's not the age that matters & most of the pornstars who are marked as MILF or GILF are mature/older women. Also they are often satring in porn that involves a "step"-son/grandson.

If a woman has kids & you want to have sex with her the she is by definition a MILF no matter her age. However MILF & GILF can be used as a descriptor for mature women who can fill that role. We are not debating about HOW to use the term, but the definition of the term. An example is everyone calls Victoria a MILF but on a technical level she isnt a MILF until she has her first kid.
 
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From the acronym that make up the word "MILF", she is only a milf when her daughter reach sexual maturity. Thus, a GILF would have a granddaughter that reach sexual maturity. It's not all about age. That's just my opinion.

So, Luthien, Erevi, and Shakala are MILFs. Greta would be a GILF.
The maturity or gender of the child or grandchild dosent effect wether shes a MILF or GILF... she is a MILF the moment shes a mother you want to have sex with same with GILFs. So Luthien is a GILF the moment her daughter becomes a mum. Same with Everi & Shakala when their daughters become mums. If you're into geriatrics then Greta is a G-GILF.
 
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Gilf/milf has always been about age. Not about whether or not they have kids. You know most of the porn stars labeled "milfs" don't have kids right? Milf means someone old enough to have to me a mom, not necessarily that they are a mom. And Gilf just means they're a senior citizen, but still attractive. The M and G in front are just used to convey the fact that they're old enough to actually be a mom or grandmother, not that they necessarily are one. You wouldn't call an 18 year old a milf just because she has a kid. Milf is just short hand for saying a woman is around middle aged, but still hot. I would never call someone in their 20s a milf regardless of whether or not they have kids. Most people don't use the terms literally. 35 is like the earliest I'd ever call someone a milf and 60s at the earliest is when I think of Gilf.

I get you and Dom are older than I am but I'm 25 and nobody I know actually uses the terms to refer to someone who has kids or grandkids
You are wrong. It was never about age. Its acronym from American Pie move. It literally mean Mom I Like Fuck.
Porn stars, you know thats only actors tis is not real. And maybe you dont know but, all these teens in porn. This girl are much older...

DomWolf, you are so fast ;)
 
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MILF literally means "Mother I'd Like to Fuck" & GILF means "Grandmother I'd Like to Fuck". So by definition it's not the age that matters & most of the pornstars who are marked as MILF or GILF are mature/older women. Also they are often satring in porn that involves a "step"-son/grandson.

If a woman has kids & you want to have sex with her the she is by definition a MILF no matter her age. However MILF & GILF can be used as a descriptor for mature women who can fill that role. We are not debating about HOW to use the term, but the definition of the term. An example is everyone calls Victoria a MILF but on a technical level she isnt a MILF until she has her first kid.
I know what the term literally means, but I'm saying nobody actually uses the terms literally or else every 19 year old who was a teen mom would be labled a milf. The terms have always been about falling more into a certain age range rather than if they actually have kids. Most porn starts that are labeled milfs are in their 40s btw. Even ones younger than that it's more about looking the part and pretending they're older. Like I said I know you guys are older than me, but no young person actually uses the term the way you do.

I'm not debating how to use the term. I'm just saying the way you use it is not how it's generally used by most people. Milf just means attractive middle aged woman to everyone I know who has ever used the term.
 

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You are wrong. It was never about age. Its acronym from American Pie move. It literally mean Mom I Like Fuck.
Porn stars, you know thats only actors tis is not real. And maybe you dont know but, all these teens in porn. This girl are much older...

DomWolf, you are so fast ;)
Again I know where it comes from. But that's now how it's used. It's not about actually being a mom it's about the fact they could be a mom.
 

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Again I know where it comes from. But that's now how it's used. It's not about actually being a mom it's about the fact they could be a mom.
In my area, this designation is not directly used in everyday speech. In my language, it's a bit of a pain in the ass. It is only used in written conversation.
On the other hand, when my friends and I see a young girl with a child, we say to ourselves that she is a nice mom. Which is practically the same meaning.
 

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In my area, this designation is not directly used in everyday speech. In my language, it's a bit of a pain in the ass. It is only used in written conversation.
On the other hand, when my friends and I see a young girl with a child, we say to ourselves that she is a nice mom. Which is practically the same meaning.

Well, English is my first language and pretty much everyone I know has always said it more like being in a specific age range. Nobody younger than mid 30s would ever quality as being a milf. And I know people who would say even mid 30s is too young. We don't even know if most of the people we're calling milfs had kids or not, just that she looks like she could be the mom of someone who is at least a teenager.
 

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MILF literally means "Mother I'd Like to Fuck"
Thing might have changed in recent year, but it was "Mother In Law Fucker" the first time I heard of it probably ~20-30 years ago. It's actually refering to someone who fuck both the daughter, and the mother. Over the time, MILF would become the term use to refer to the mother of the girl you fuck, or a matured woman similar to "cougar".

Edit: the MILF I know may have been originated from porn industry. On the other hand, DomWolf and PhineasFlynn bring up the literature origin of the term. So, they are correct.

Edit2: still, a hot mom of a friend hint that she would have teenager age children.

I've never heard of GILF until recently.
 
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I know what the term literally means, but I'm saying nobody actually uses the terms literally or else every 19 year old who was a teen mom would be labled a milf. The terms have always been about falling more into a certain age range rather than if they actually have kids. Most porn starts that are labeled milfs are in their 40s btw. Even ones younger than that it's more about looking the part and pretending they're older. Like I said I know you guys are older than me, but no young person actually uses the term the way you do.

I'm not debating how to use the term. I'm just saying the way you use it is not how it's generally used by most people. Milf just means attractive middle aged woman to everyone I know who has ever used the term.
Not arguing that you cant use the term to designate an attractive mature woman. And i myself have used the term in that context. So have my mates. Dosent change the definition, which was the original point. By the definition Luthien, Erevi & Shakala all becomes GILFs & all girls become MILFs. That's it. Was just making a statement based on the definition.

Also I wouldnt use the porn industry as you're source because its had to censor itself alot in recent years. When I was a teen, Milf porn was either fucking a "friends mum" or incest between a mum & son (not step-family like it's all stated to be now).

But at the end of the day it can be used however the we want. Wether your talking about a literal MILF/GILF or merley saying they are mature/old enough to be one.
 
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Not arguing that you cant use the term to designate an attractive mature woman. And i myself have used the term in that context. So have my mates. Dosent change the definition, which was the original point. By the definition Luthien, Erevi & Shakala all becomes GILFs & all girls become MILFs. That's it. Was just making a statement based on the definition.

Also I wouldnt use the porn industry as you're source because its had to censor itself alot in recent years. When I was a teen, Milf porn was either fucking a "friends mum" or incest between a mum & son (not step-family like it's all stated to be now).

But at the end of the day it can be used however the we want. Wether your talking about a literal MILF/GILF or merley saying they are mature/old enough to be one.


It kind of does though. Nobody I know has ever used the term literally and the way I've been saying andPdoan has been saying is the most common usage. Even googling the definiton it reads that it generally just refers to an "older" woman and not necessarily one with children. What the M actually stands for is pretty irrelevant when it comes to the typical usage. I mean it's slang after all. Obviously how the slang is used matters more than the acronymn.









It definitely doesn't stand for "Mother in Law fucker" it's a term for mature women Bud, not the men who fuck them. So unless you use it purely for lesbians it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Since everyone seem to be giving out their ages it seems like I might be the oldest person here by a significant margin... Hell my PC is older than one of these who have given their ages :p (or close to it), and I have known MilF as "Mother I'd Love to Fuck" for over 40 years.

We're all fully aware of what the Acronym stands for. The argument is whether or not the acronym actually matters. I'm saying it's not and that most people don't tend to refer to it literally but just slang for an attractive older woman. There are a lot of women who don't have kids who are called milfs and a lot of 18 and 19 year old moms who typically aren't called milfs in english.
 

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We're all fully aware of what the Acronym stands for. The argument is whether or not the acronym actually matters. I'm saying it's not and that most people don't tend to refer to it literally but just slang for an attractive older woman. There are a lot of women who don't have kids who are called milfs and a lot of 18 and 19 year old moms who typically aren't called milfs in english.
I'll agree that a Women doesn't need kids to be a MILF, just like a woman needs more than just kids to become a MILF.
But that wasn't what you wrote and what I responded to. (which I deleted BTW because I don't really want to be drawn into this argument.)
 

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I'll agree that a Women doesn't need kids to be a MILF, just like a woman needs more than just kids to become a MILF.
But that wasn't what you wrote and what I responded to. (which I deleted BTW because I don't really want to be drawn into this argument.)

I mean the argument started because I said 50 is to young to be considered a Gilf to me, and then Dom and Phineas started arguing that age doesn't matter and that everyone with kids is a milf regardless of how young they are. I know what the acronym stands for I just don't think it actually matters since most people don't use it that way.


Also why is your PC that old? I get a new pc like every 3 or 4 years. I don't even think my parents still own anything older than 10 years
 
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