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The dev seem to constantly post dev log there from time to time, the latest is on 11/03/2024
at least they not just go silent and actually abandon the game, I guess.
at least they not just go silent and actually abandon the game, I guess.
- Jul 3, 2021
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Pizza Hot? More like Pizza Not... G-get it?...Ha...Haha..Ha...
a better joke could be Pizza ColdPizza Hot? More like Pizza Not... G-get it?...Ha...Haha..Ha...
It wasn't really abandoned, the developer didn't publish a new update for 8 months but he still works at the game at a slower pace. He sends devblogs on his discord nearly everyday
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the site buts the abandoned tag if theres no updates within 8 months
- Jun 26, 2017
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You're telling me Abelius planned this all along?!
https://f95zone.to/threads/pizza-cold-tech-demo-abelius.112460/
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the pizza is mega frozen
I think this will transform in Pizza Frozen. Idk but I think it would be better to release small updates to keep his community engaged and this way it will be way faster finding out bugs or getting suggestionsYou're telling me Abelius planned this all along?!
https://f95zone.to/threads/pizza-cold-tech-demo-abelius.112460/
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- May 1, 2021
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Fuck you guys, now I want to buy me a frozen pizza
"Abel but what about Pizza Cold? The game that got abandone–"
>Yeah, I don't care much, tbh
"Okay what about Pizza Hot 0.13–"
>Yeah, I don't care much, tbh
"But it's been nine months since your last releas–"
>Yeah, I don't care much, tbh
"Don't you care about the thousands of $$$ you're making from your supporters every month?"
>Yeah, I don't care much, tbh
"..."
>Yeah, I don't care much, tbh
This pizza has own microflora with tentacles and primitive mind already
Not defending this game's progress in general, because it's true development pace is concerningly slow. But you guys really need a reality check sometimes on what this site is and the relationship it bears to developers. F95 is a piracy site, with an automated "Abandoned" tagging system that is arbitrarily set by the F95 admins/mods based on last thread OP update, and automatically applied to game threads without any manual check/intervention on what is happening elsewhere on dev's patreon/discord/etc. [EDIT: I think I was incorrect about the Abandoned tag system. It's likely manually set by thread OP moderator based on a variety of factors. But it's still fundamentally true that it only reflects the judgement of a mod on this forum, and doesn't reflect an objective state of the game according to the developer.]
Nobody should be surprised or dismayed that a dev wouldn't care about what this site thinks of their game or development progress. Their responsibility is to their paying supporters, not to a piracy forum.
Nobody should be surprised or dismayed that a dev wouldn't care about what this site thinks of their game or development progress. Their responsibility is to their paying supporters, not to a piracy forum.
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I think you are partially right. And i'm not writing this post against you, but instead because you voice a very common idea.
This is undoubtedly a piracy forum. It is also true that there are people who pay and there are those who don't and when a decision has to be made, a dev is probably better off listening to those who keep the lights on in the studio.
However there are two crucial facts that when ignored can absolutely hit the devs the hard way:
First, this forum is full of people who want to pay and are just looking for the best value for their money. There are also a lot who have spent money in the past and stopped. A dev needs only ask and they will come here and tell their reasons.
And second, i'm willing to bet that you didn't see a TV commercial for Pizza Hot. Nor have you seen a billboard next to the highway for this game. And probably nobody heard a radio show where they invited the insanely talented Abelius to tell his secret of hard work and success.
Most of his supporters almost certainly got to know about this game through this site or a similar one.
He can ignore, insult or wage war against anyone he wishes. That is his decision and nobody else's. But the reality remains that he did get supporters and through them money from this site and community. With every snarky comment he writes, every genuine feedback he ignores and every plan to punish the place where his success came from will risk alienating supporters future and present.
All fair points, and it's why I think the existence of this site is most of the time a net-positive for NSFW game-dev. It can bring a lot of attention and excitement to games that otherwise might be almost impossible to find or notice. And on the whole it's better to have a positive relationship with this place as a dev than a hostile one. I certainly wouldn't advise a dev to deliberately alienate people here.
But at the same time, I do think users here need to recognise that if they're getting something for free, then the dev has no responsibility to them and owes them nothing, and so they should take an attitude of graciousness and patience for getting free access to all these games, rather than one of entitlement, imo (a lot to ask of an internet forum though, I know ^_^)
True. I'm absolutely in the part of the community who is here to get tons of free stuff and so i hold the opinion that patience and politeness is not only a courtesy but most of the time a benefit for our selfish interests too, so people should probably do it more.
But i focus more on the reciprocal nature of this site between the community and the devs because negativity and ungratefulness can very quickly turn into a game of chicken or the egg. In this particular case it is highly possible that this game wouldn't have reached more than a 100 supporters without this community here and the dev doesn't seem to appreciate received either.
You are also correct to say that he doesn't owe anything to people who didn't pay, but this statement is again true both ways. Nobody every signed a contract, nobody gave their word and nobody is honor-bound to help the dev either.
A game like this, when finished would be worth $10-20 at an online store, but how much is it worth when it is unfinished and apparently is in it's early stages still?
Just as a lot of players ask to access the content for free, the dev asks them to pay money not for a product but for promises, hope and potential.
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Not to be pedantic (but I'm going to be pedantic
),I don't think there's any automation to it? It's technically meant to happen after only 3 months of radio silence from a dev, and that's happened plenty of times without a tag being applied until someone reports it.
I do wonder how you'd even automate such a system? Input which specific socials the dev has a presence on, and create a bot to scan those socials prior to the 3-month marker for new posts, with the timer resetting each time the thread receives an update?
It seems like such a system would need a lot of manual overhead - for every single new project posted on here, you'd have to manually input which specific socials and usernames to scan for dev posts. How would it know if the dev moves socials? Another manual input? There are socials where you need to log in with a verified account in order to see the R-18 content - but I suppose the F95 team could create an account for this purpose, so that one's not an issue at least.
There's also the solo dev projects that sometimes get posted by F95 members who have no socials. Would it count their F95 as the social? But what if they're making posts that have nothing to do with their project for 3 months, does the bot have some sort of AI functionality to determine that? And could you trust it?
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