boobmanlord

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Aug 13, 2017
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Reminder the dev has another game called Pizza Cold where it was a "parody" of this game where the sex happens on a faster pace. It has the abandoned flair. It boggles my mind a dev would split his resources up like that. Why not add those sluttier scenes as paths the player can take? Then you can go back and route the "realism" route while players have things to jerk to.

Thank those that are recommending similar games in here. Life is the longest thing there is but it's still too short to wait for your porn. There's a ton of great games that do have content. I love the idea of Pizza Hot and I was firmly in the Pizza Hot camp when Pizza Cold came out. Slow burn is my jam but if your erection lasts this long, consult another game.
 

Bzshr

Newbie
Feb 4, 2018
72
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My point is, this game takes a long time to update, and the time it takes comes from Abelius being a lone programmer with insanely high standards. When you want to implement a feature, you start to see things that depend on that feature, and things that you had already made that need to be changed. Somewhere along the process you have to draw the line on how much you are willing to change, and how much time you are willing to spend changing every part of the process. This is also a problem with software engineering. If you have the whole thing planned out before you start, the process tends to go more smoothly, but even then, unexpected things just happen.

Abelius doesn't seem to have a trello set up anymore or some kind of software to keep track of what has to be done, even if in private. In my opinion, delivered from experience, thats is a big problem, not having all the steps planned out, not having a grasp on what every step of the process might be, or what these steps might require. He does seem to understand that this is important, and takes steps to program the game in a way that helps him account for future updates, yet he still finds himself having to fix and remake a lot, every update. That might be because he is the only one working in the code and cant really see things from another angle.

The game doesn't only seem to be a way for him to make a living, he also wants to keep the standards very high, maybe he lacks experience leading projects or organizing projects, which is very common even if you have worked in the industry before. But its undeniable that he has a vision for the project and is doing his best to accomplish it, while trying to make a living off of it in the process. However, the frequency in which even his best, not so well organized, process can generate new content and updates does not equal the promises he usually makes. On the start of the project, creating new content was easy, it could be done fast, he even made another game almost to prove this point to himself. But it didn't really work like that. And now, he can deliver 12 scenes in a 2 month long update.

There seems to be some problems with his own expectations and planning on what he is realistically able to do, and what is realistic for the project in general.
I completely agree on this take. Dev seems like a perfectionist, though I also think he prefers adding new technical content on his game, and appealing to the story progression later. I could feel it when he explained why 0.11 took so long, he took his time explaining the features he have added, but at the end of the day, it's only a framework that does not add any story to the game. It looked like he started on the idea, hits a roadblock, completely develops a new system for that roadblock, and what do you know, months have passed without him doing anything about the story.

From a programmer's perspective, what he did was awesome. He now has a framework that he can keep using on multiple scenes, on multiple areas, and it wouldn't take too long for him to create these scenes anymore, while keeping the animation quality high. But that's about it, on his perspective he poured a ton of work on his game, it was sadly a self service. From the outside perspective, he wasted several months and only provided a tiny amount of content for the game. And thus, a lot of negativity about the game had been thrown, I believe he deleted his F95 account after the release of 0.11 too, probably trying to escape the negativity.

And now, the dev's reputation is now of providing little content months at a time. It felt like he's not respecting everyone's time and money, and his community is now doing the same - by leaking the 0.12 beta version immediately. They no longer respect his time too, which obviously makes it really upsetting for the dev.

I believe the dev needs more accountability, and probably a project manager as well. Sometimes, adding new features to the unfinished game can be counter-productive. Case in point, dev wants height variety on all the characters in the game. Sounds awesome, but it adds an extra layer of complexity now that animations won't align. But the dev dived into it anyway. Would it look good? Definitely. Is it a ton of work? Yes, most likely. He needs to modify his animation framework to automatically adjust parameters when there are height differences. Is it worth it? Long run, yes. But now when people are expecting updates from you after you've been gone for months without? Probably not..

All in all, it's sad to hear the dev being frustrated by the leak. However, he needs to respect the time and money that people are pouring onto his project. I hope he understands that, and plan out his game more, perhaps restart communicating again here instead of just being in discord, explain his progress for the month, etc. I do think he is capable of making monthly releases once he has enough groundwork done, but for how long, now that's the question to ask.
 

johnyakuza1

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Jun 5, 2022
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0.12 Save File attached below:

- All Humper scenes unlocked
- All Skip Work options unlocked
- Max stats and all clothes unlocked


Notes:

Overall, I liked the update, it was way more fun than 0.11.

There is no gallery this time around, so use individual saves to watch any of the 12 scenes that you wish. Interact with the bed to start the scene and choose not to pay rent.
 

Baydeah

Newbie
Oct 3, 2018
38
18
idk if i completed all, i saw the green text on landlord one and bus, but the masseur i didnt see any green text but i have no more options available after the bikini bottom so im like dont know if missing something, the same happen with boss, when i go to punishment mode and accept the offer i only can do light spank idk if its the limit, with the girl friend i cant progress in shower only head massage and nothing more, as maid i got landlord fap moment when i clean and in the night i got that she can masturb MC, am i missing any content or i ended all?
 

Nice_Guy69

Newbie
Sep 5, 2020
55
101
So to get the 12 scenes, so that's' 12 weeks of not paying rent, that's skipping a day 4*12 times, with auto saves on each cycle... right?
I was happy to fund the game when he was developing the cafe and bus content, but I pulled funding when I heard there was a whole update of the fat & ugly landlord, no one wants that content.
Wrong. The thing with the old ugly man is exactly what i am looking for the most. Absolutely hot.
 

hieuluc5

Newbie
Feb 4, 2018
30
57
We are still here because we care about this game. But he is not respect everyone time, with boring grinding. (Even a fan of slow corruption like me can't endure). After 2 years, no real improvement in Pizza waitress mini games, no more scene in that. He even makes an *anti-cheat* implemented to cap exhibition number. After many months, the change log still long as F, but just 10% of this is something news. To this point I think there is no future, even with 12 scenes recently, because it's just boring *skip day to monday* > *No pay* > *Scene happened*. Why not somewhere else, different situation, with literality that number of contents, it should be so so so much better. No variation, you feel like a mice look at a cheese and never get it.
About good corruption game: I recommend Corruption Town, Village Slut Transformation, Fashion Business, KimberlysLife, Photohunt, Being a DIK, VIRTUES, Nymphomania Paradox, Every NLT Games, RJ01141999, AnnaExcitingAffection, MilfyCity, Jessica O'Neil, Timestamps, Lisa and of course - Insexity.
 

R1k0

Active Member
Sep 27, 2017
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We are still here because we care about this game. But he is not respect everyone time, with boring grinding. (Even a fan of slow corruption like me can't endure). After 2 years, no real improvement in Pizza waitress mini games, no more scene in that. He even makes an *anti-cheat* implemented to cap exhibition number. After many months, the change log still long as F, but just 10% of this is something news. To this point I think there is no future, even with 12 scenes recently, because it's just boring *skip day to monday* > *No pay* > *Scene happened*. Why not somewhere else, different situation, with literality that number of contents, it should be so so so much better. No variation, you feel like a mice look at a cheese and never get it.
About good corruption game: I recommend Corruption Town, Village Slut Transformation, Fashion Business, KimberlysLife, Photohunt, Being a DIK, VIRTUES, Nymphomania Paradox, Every NLT Games, RJ01141999, AnnaExcitingAffection, MilfyCity, Jessica O'Neil, Timestamps, Lisa and of course - Insexity.
There is a special recommendation section on this site. It doesn't work like that, what is good for one may not be good for another, please don't spam games that you like, this is the "Pizza hot" game page.
 

RobAlson244

Newbie
May 14, 2023
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There is a special recommendation section on this site. It doesn't work like that, what is good for one may not be good for another, please don't spam games that you like, this is the "Pizza hot" game page.
My apologies, I didn't know we had a recommendation section. I'll go there from now on when I have requests. Though I do thank joeschmoe12345 for the links. I've played some of those before but there are a few that are new to me and I'm enjoying them.
 

Liero

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Jun 13, 2018
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The game is 3+ years in development.
And your point is?
The amount of updates are still the same. Abelius is slow, big whoop. Are you paying every month for his patreon or subscribestar?
In that case, don't.

The point of my comment was to say that I do not think Abelius is a liar due to the lack of options you have as a character at the moment, as he hasn't taken the time to implement those yet. He is taking a "quicker" route towards what perhaps most people wanna see, the character getting into some NSFW stuff. However, how he does that is up for discussion wherever or not it's good practice to do or not. But it's a pattern of development I have seen from several other games on this forum, where they will sacrifice certain routes in order to focus on the "main" one.
I think Abelius is heavily misguided in how to set proper priority's when making this game, but do I think that makes him a liar? No.
Being a liar and being bad at figuring out the best way to do something is not the same thing.

I would also recommend that if you want to support someone through Patreon or Subscribestar, only invest what you can afford and stop supporting them the months you don't see any significant progress. In the end, no one is holding your wallet hostage.
 

DreamingAway

Member
Aug 24, 2022
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And your point is?
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Me: "Character Agency is not a priority behind the design of this game"

I wouldn't say it's a lie "yet". If it goes on for several updates that you are incapable of making your own decisions for how the character should react, then I would be inclined to agree.

Me: "Well the game has had about 17 major updates over the course of 3 years, player agency is still not a feature.. When do you start agreeing then?"
 

Liero

Member
Jun 13, 2018
186
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--

Me: "Character Agency is not a priority behind the design of this game"
Corruption first, agency later. As I attempted to explain in perhaps a poor manner.

Me: "Well the game has had about 17 major updates over the course of 3 years, player agency is still not a feature.. When do you start agreeing then?"
I would agree after the arbitrary number of 20 updates. Gotta be MAJOR ONES as you said. Minor ones for bug fixes don't count. If he adds no way outside of the current tutorial ways of teaching you the "game mechanics", I'll agree.
 
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oopsalot

Newbie
Oct 30, 2019
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idk if i completed all, i saw the green text on landlord one and bus, but the masseur i didnt see any green text but i have no more options available after the bikini bottom so im like dont know if missing something, the same happen with boss, when i go to punishment mode and accept the offer i only can do light spank idk if its the limit, with the girl friend i cant progress in shower only head massage and nothing more, as maid i got landlord fap moment when i clean and in the night i got that she can masturb MC, am i missing any content or i ended all?
That's everything until the next update.
 

bossmilk69

New Member
Dec 17, 2021
1
4
I quite like this game, but the long wait times can be tiring. The places you can enter in the game include a restaurant, home, shop, and mall, as well as a massage parlor. However, why are there no events in the shop? It's only active when you first start playing the game. After the event at the restaurant ends, the customers who come in are NPCs with no affection points. So, who were the NPCs that initially participated and increased affection points?
 
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