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damnson1111

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yes, all the screenshots are from scenes that are actually present in the game. and each of the scenes has even more to it, i did snapshot just an action or two to give the idea of what can be performed there. but since I unlocked the caps for all stats and relationships up to 100 quite early in my gameplay I cannot really say which of the scenes would be reachable without caps unlocking. I didn't mention it before cos I thought it was obvious - higher exhibitionism allows for fewer clothes, skimpier clothes and eventually nakedness; higher lewdness allows for more lewd actions in scenes or progressing within given scene, higher relationships allow for progressing towards new scenes with given character e.g. Kayla/Boss/Landlord.

unfortunately unlocking the caps is practically hacking the game binary data, which actually isn't very hard for a unity developer. yet I will not allow myself to share details about that here unless the game is officially declared abandoned by Abelius. anyone is free to try hack it for himself though ;)
ah okay, it's been a while since I've touched Unity and C# but I might give it a go sometime, appreciate the consideration for the dev and thank you for the response
 

DudePersonA

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was there an earlier version of this that had more non-consent content?
It's been so long now... I do recall more groping but also it was a way earlier version of the game; if there was more non-con content or more planned non-con content, there wasn't much there to begin with.
Let's look at it another way:
has posts for Pizza Hot going back to January 3rd, 2022.
All of the Pizza Cold stuff has been scrubbed, but it uses the current for Pizza Hot. shows it was first posted in March 30th, 2022 (with no updates before and on August 22nd, 2022).
The currently has Pizza Hot posts going back June 4th, 2023.

Do you think Abelius would leave money on the table for more than a year, which is the gap between starting his subscribestar and his first posts of his Patreon for Pizza Hot? No. I don't think he ever explicitly stated that Pizza Cold was a way for people who liked his game but only used Patreon to fund Pizza Hot in a roundabout way, but to me it was pretty clear Pizza Cold was a workaround when it was announced. Pizza Cold never got much dev time and was just enough different for him to say "No, it's a different game", and everything was consensual.

I think at some point in the thread Abelius started complaining about not having that Patreon money for Pizza Hot and put Pizza Hot on Patreon anyway (because the whole Pizza Cold wink-wink-nudge-nudge thing was fairly obtuse for most people to understand, not that he acknowledged that).
 
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Tasty Walrus

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It's been so long now... I do recall more groping but also it was a way earlier version of the game; if there was more non-con content or more planned non-con content, there wasn't much there to begin with.
Let's look at it another way:
has posts for Pizza Hot going back to January 3rd, 2022.
All of the Pizza Cold stuff has been scrubbed, but it uses the current for Pizza Hot. shows it was first posted in March 30th, 2022 (with no updates before and on August 22nd, 2022).
The currently has Pizza Hot posts going back June 4th, 2023.

Do you think Abelius would leave money on the table for more than a year, which is the gap between starting his subscribestar and his first posts of his Patreon for Pizza Hot? No. I don't think he ever explicitly stated that Pizza Cold was a way for people who liked his game but only used Patreon to fund Pizza Hot in a roundabout way, but to me it was pretty clear Pizza Cold was a workaround when it was announced. Pizza Cold never got much dev time and was just enough different for him to say "No, it's a different game", and everything was consensual.

I think at some point in the thread Abelius started complaining about not having that Patreon money for Pizza Hot and put Pizza Hot on Patreon anyway (because the whole Pizza Cold wink-wink-nudge-nudge thing was fairly obtuse for most people to understand, not that he acknowledged that).
Thanks. Found it. Appreciated.
 
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CoderGuy

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How can we ease up the grinding. I want to change value of lewd, exhibitionism, relationship stat values, etc. I do have .sav file after I saved game.
 

jackdanniels

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How can we ease up the grinding. I want to change value of lewd, exhibitionism, relationship stat values, etc. I do have .sav file after I saved game.
There is a guy here, hawov18138, who was explaining step-by-step how to cheat in past posts, you need to browse some pages ago and you may find out how to do it.
 

Monki0

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How can we ease up the grinding. I want to change value of lewd, exhibitionism, relationship stat values, etc. I do have .sav file after I saved game.
Go to the save file and open it. Near the bottom of the Text you can find the stats. Change them the save and reload game.
 

Severthe

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Last reply from me on this because I don't want to keep dragging the thread off-topic.

Winning the lottery is a rare event, but a single person winning the lottery five times in a row is astronomically rare. That's where epidemiology and statistics play a role. If you knew basic math, you wouldn’t be making that "argument."

Abelius constantly citing serious, low-probability personal tragedies as an excuse for delays follows the same principle. Someone might have cancer, someone else might be divorced, someone else might have depression, another maladaptive daydreaming. The probability of each single event happening in isolation is plausible, but when stacked together without a clear pattern, it becomes highly suspicious. And buddy, if you haven't seen all of the rollercoasters that have been going on in this thread, I don't know what to tell you.

You tried to generalize my argument, but you failed to account for conditional probability. Aka, the likelihood of multiple specific events occurring to the same person under suspicious circumstances.

> "Oh, your dad died from a shark attack at the age of 35 when you were 7? Well, the probability of being attacked by a shark for someone under 40 years old is this number, which is much less probable than being killed in a car accident, so do you really expect me to believe this bullshit?"

A shark attack is a random, external event with no direct incentive or motive.

In contrast, a game developer coming up with constant excuses to delay work is an intentional action with a clear pattern of behavior and motive: avoiding accountability.

A better analogy would be someone claiming to win the lottery five times in a row while refusing to provide the winning tickets. But you can't come up with a better analogy because you know...

Either you don't understand, or you’re purposefully ignoring that the discussion isn’t about isolated probability but about detecting patterns in behavior, which, everyone here detected

> "And the cherry-on-top is that your citation for all these 'scientific' 'facts' and numbers is 'epidemiology which I studied back in Uni.' Like, what? That doesn’t even make sense. Either you have an actual source of data for your numbers, or you don’t."

So, instead of addressing the numbers, you dismiss them by mocking the source?

Even if my original argument lacked a formal citation, that does not automatically invalidate the logic behind statistical analysis.

A better reply from you would have been to provide counter-evidence showing that such a series of events is more common than initially assumed. But you don't do this.

This is what pseudo-intellectualoids consider "a fallacy of argument from ignorance": I don’t see the data, so your argument must be wrong.

> "At the end of the day, could Abelius be lying about this? Sure, it’s possible. But nothing in your post is proof of that in any way."

If someone repeatedly claims highly improbable tragedies while delaying work, the burden of proof shifts to them to provide credibility. Usually, in legal and financial situations, those kinds of patterns of unlikely excuses (which, statistically, we say are suspicious) are grounds for investigation.

If someone calls in sick to work once, it’s normal. If someone calls in sick every week with different rare illnesses, and when they run out, comes up with more outlandish situations, well, buddy, that's suspicious.

You know, skepticism is justified when patterns defy normal statistical expectations. And this is the case.

You misunderstand probability, dismiss valid skepticism, and you can't even use basic logic to defend the guy.

Sources:

1. Risk of Breast Cancer in Women Aged 40–44:



2. Annual Rate of Major Depressive Episodes in Men:




3. Incidence of Parental Child Abduction by Mothers After Divorce:

You totally missed my point. I never argued that you can't reasonably come to your own conclusions about Abelius's trustworthiness based on a pattern of behavior. My point was that your post multiplying a bunch of probabilities together proves absolutely nothing about whether he is lying or not.

Your argument that Abelius is constantly announcing new reasons for delays and that this is suspicious is (if true) actually an argument with some weight behind it for distrusting Abelius's announcement (though it's important to recognize it doesn't prove Abelius is lying, only makes an argument for it). But the multiplying together probabilities and saying "see, this is way too unlikely" adds nothing to the scales in either direction for all of the reasons I gave in my original post.

So, instead of addressing the numbers, you dismiss them by mocking the source?
My point about your numbers being unsourced was not the primary reason I was dismissing them, it was a side point. My main point was always the above.

A better reply from you would have been to provide counter-evidence showing that such a series of events is more common than initially assumed. But you don't do this.
And no. There is no onus on other people to provide counter-evidence against no evidence. If I told you that 1 in 5 deaths in the US in 2022 was from heart disease, and that I know this because I studied it/work in the field, I have not actually provided any evidence for it. I've just stated it. And as I'm a random anon on a hentai game forum, it would be completely reasonable for you to dismiss my statement out of hand, and a waste of your precious time here on Earth to go looking for counter-evidence to a random statistical statement with no citation made by an anonymous person. Now that heart disease fact happens to be true and have a reliable source (the CDC) that backs it up, but that is irrelevant to you unless I actually cite the source.

I do appreciate that you now have given some sources for your numbers. But as I said, this point was just a side point to my main criticism that I've reiterated above.

Peace o/
 
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