damnson1111

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idk if what I am presenting hereby is content from previous updates.
what I claim is that this is the maximum reachable end content of v0.13f.
after having explored the game in multiple ways, incl. a bit of cheating, save editing, time forwarding ... and of course overriding the stats caps to 100 ... I can say you won't find anything better or further than that.
so before you get too enthusiastic about the spoilers have a look both at the stats and the day on the screenshots.
NOTE: all the images are intentionally downscaled for size.

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Well ... what i can say after all that - INDEED A VERY SLOW BURNER!!! after 14 bus scenes and numerous meetings with her landlord for over 80 days Jenny is only licked and fingered once or twice, her pussy ass and mouth are totally virgin yet, she mostly got groped rubbed and licked, did a few handjobs and got a few blasts on the ass and face. the whoooole game up to now deals ONLY with allowing touching and undressing.

As you can see by the screenshots, at least she can finally undress naked, and allows touches ... in most parts. But I guess this is as far as this game will ever get. Be warned not to expect more.

There was a joke I was told once, about an old perv who hits on a small girl by giving her candies to let him touch her, then grope her, then kiss her, etc, etc. Finally the girl snaps at him, "Cmon dude, by the time you decide to actually f*ck me I will be dying of diabetes!"
No offense, just sounds somehow similar :D

enjoy the shots! (y)
Thank you for the high effort post. I'm probably being retarded but are the screenshots actually present in game, just locked through stat checks? For example, is the mutual touching in shower with Kayla in 0.13f?
 

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Thank you for the high effort post. I'm probably being retarded but are the screenshots actually present in game, just locked through stat checks? For example, is the mutual touching in shower with Kayla in 0.13f?
yes, all the screenshots are from scenes that are actually present in the game. and each of the scenes has even more to it, i did snapshot just an action or two to give the idea of what can be performed there. but since I unlocked the caps for all stats and relationships up to 100 quite early in my gameplay I cannot really say which of the scenes would be reachable without caps unlocking. I didn't mention it before cos I thought it was obvious - higher exhibitionism allows for fewer clothes, skimpier clothes and eventually nakedness; higher lewdness allows for more lewd actions in scenes or progressing within given scene, higher relationships allow for progressing towards new scenes with given character e.g. Kayla/Boss/Landlord.

unfortunately unlocking the caps is practically hacking the game binary data, which actually isn't very hard for a unity developer. yet I will not allow myself to share details about that here unless the game is officially declared abandoned by Abelius. anyone is free to try hack it for himself though ;)
 
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The lifetime risk of a woman developing breast cancer is about 1 in 8.

He’s probably in his 40s, so his ex-wife is likely in her late 30s or early 40s. The yearly risk of breast cancer for women aged 40-44 is about 1 in 69 (1.45%).

He said he had depression? For men, that’s about 1 in 10.

Child abduction by a parent happens in 0.1% to 0.5% of divorces. The chance of the mother being the abductor and also being abusive? Roughly 3 in 1000.

So, let’s do the math:
There's two issues with your analysis, a minor one and a major one. The minor one is that you shouldn't use the base rate for depression, because "incidence of depression among men with a horrible ex-wife and a complicated child situation" is way higher than 10%.

But the major one is that you're calculating the probability of one particular set of events causing a person to be too busy to work, and using it to judge the overall probability of them being unable to work. That's not valid - if I flip a coin 10 times, any particular sequence I get will be 1/1024 unlikely, but the chance I get some sequence is probability ~1. Series of events that mess up someone's life happen quite often - to estimate how often, you'd have to sum over all possible such events, which you haven't done.

Or, from a Bayesian point of view: to judge how likely a person is lying based on them saying A happened to them, you need to know not just how likely A is, but also how likely they are to lie that specifically-A happened if it didn't. The latter is also unlikely, so the number you got is much less evidence than it seems.
 
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There's two issues with your analysis, a minor one and a major one. The minor one is that you shouldn't use the base rate for depression, because "incidence of depression among men with a horrible ex-wife and a complicated child situation" is way higher than 10%.

But the major one is that you're calculating the probability of one particular set of events causing a person to be too busy to work, and using it to judge the overall probability of them being unable to work. That's not valid - if I flip a coin 10 times, any particular sequence I get will be 1/1024 unlikely, but the chance I get some sequence is probability ~1. Series of events that mess up someone's life happen quite often - to estimate how often, you'd have to sum over all possible such events, which you haven't done.

Or, from a Bayesian point of view: to judge how likely a person is lying based on them saying A happened to them, you need to know not just how likely A is, but also how likely they are to lie that specifically-A happened if it didn't. The latter is also unlikely, so the number you got is much less evidence than it seems.

Men with a difficult ex-wife and child situation are more prone to depression, so yeah, there probably is a higher rate than the standard 10%. However, that data was the lowest-impacting factor in the overall final calculation. Even if we assume a 25% rate, the chances of all these events happening to the same developer one after another would still be extremely low.

It’s true that any particular coin sequence is unlikely, but that example is flawed. We are not dealing with the same binary event repeating over and over, but rather a constantly changing series of life events. Coin flips are random, whereas recurring excuses can be intentional. If someone experiences multiple low-probability events in quick succession, it’s reasonable to question whether there’s another explanation. A binary coin flip has never been the best analogy for a pattern of real-life events.

If we’re applying Bayesian reasoning, we should consider not only how likely the events are to happen but also how likely someone is to lie about them. That’s correct, but you don’t mention how repeated excuses increase the probability of deception. If someone has a history of sudden misfortunes every time a deadline approaches, skepticism is justified, especially when postponements have been happening for nearly nine months

My point is that these unlikely events form a suspicious pattern, increasing the significance of multiple improbable things happening in one situation. When rare events keep stacking up without solid evidence, doubt is natural. When we see repeated patterns of delays, each with a completely different justification, from someone with a long history of doing this, it raises red flags. Let me elaborate:

- Claiming the work was actually done so they could pay him safely. He still, yet again, failed to deliver.

- Promising monthly updates for years, and despite supposedly preparing v0.14, v0.15, v0.99 in advance to bait people

- Deleting posts where he claimed to be working 12 hours a day, seven days a week. (I can even find the screenshots)

- Threatening patrons that his ex would run away with the kids if he dropped below a certain threshold. And then, after years, we find out they’re actually living together.

What Abelius kept saying for years was the, working 360 hours a month. Then he says he doesn't work on Sundays because it's his precious time with his daughters.

That the update is done. But magically, he can't "finish" it for the next half a year.

Many people still keep falling for him and defending crap like "quality takes time". When he isn't even making some next-gen, out-of-this-world game with super-high graphics (which aren’t even made by him) or some futuristic tech like NPCs reacting to every single thing the player does or says. Nay. He makes just an ordinary hentai game with art that has some charm to it. The characters aren’t even voiced. There’s no real quality, no real effort, not even some futuristic crazy tech. His gameplay is as basic as it can get. Dialogues are normal. He even bragged about using AI to help him write, he even proudly admitted of using playmate to do most of the coding. So, what does he doe exactly? Apart from taling money?

He got kicked out of a LoK because he didn’t want to share money with more members to speed up development and instead went with, “I can do everything, so give me the majority of the money"

And Abelius gets away with it all only because people keep supporting him. He earns enough to make a living, so he can keep doing this shit. It's super effective, and other devs seeing it will follow in his footsteps because, yet again, people support such behavior and let it happen.

He might have depression, especially with F95 treating him like shit. His ex might have cancer, too, but the chances of everything being true are zero, not because of probability, but because the things he says contradict any logic (And statistical evidence)
 
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damnson1111

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yes, all the screenshots are from scenes that are actually present in the game. and each of the scenes has even more to it, i did snapshot just an action or two to give the idea of what can be performed there. but since I unlocked the caps for all stats and relationships up to 100 quite early in my gameplay I cannot really say which of the scenes would be reachable without caps unlocking. I didn't mention it before cos I thought it was obvious - higher exhibitionism allows for fewer clothes, skimpier clothes and eventually nakedness; higher lewdness allows for more lewd actions in scenes or progressing within given scene, higher relationships allow for progressing towards new scenes with given character e.g. Kayla/Boss/Landlord.

unfortunately unlocking the caps is practically hacking the game binary data, which actually isn't very hard for a unity developer. yet I will not allow myself to share details about that here unless the game is officially declared abandoned by Abelius. anyone is free to try hack it for himself though ;)
ah okay, it's been a while since I've touched Unity and C# but I might give it a go sometime, appreciate the consideration for the dev and thank you for the response
 

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was there an earlier version of this that had more non-consent content?
It's been so long now... I do recall more groping but also it was a way earlier version of the game; if there was more non-con content or more planned non-con content, there wasn't much there to begin with.
Let's look at it another way:
has posts for Pizza Hot going back to January 3rd, 2022.
All of the Pizza Cold stuff has been scrubbed, but it uses the current for Pizza Hot. shows it was first posted in March 30th, 2022 (with no updates before and on August 22nd, 2022).
The currently has Pizza Hot posts going back June 4th, 2023.

Do you think Abelius would leave money on the table for more than a year, which is the gap between starting his subscribestar and his first posts of his Patreon for Pizza Hot? No. I don't think he ever explicitly stated that Pizza Cold was a way for people who liked his game but only used Patreon to fund Pizza Hot in a roundabout way, but to me it was pretty clear Pizza Cold was a workaround when it was announced. Pizza Cold never got much dev time and was just enough different for him to say "No, it's a different game", and everything was consensual.

I think at some point in the thread Abelius started complaining about not having that Patreon money for Pizza Hot and put Pizza Hot on Patreon anyway (because the whole Pizza Cold wink-wink-nudge-nudge thing was fairly obtuse for most people to understand, not that he acknowledged that).
 
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It's been so long now... I do recall more groping but also it was a way earlier version of the game; if there was more non-con content or more planned non-con content, there wasn't much there to begin with.
Let's look at it another way:
has posts for Pizza Hot going back to January 3rd, 2022.
All of the Pizza Cold stuff has been scrubbed, but it uses the current for Pizza Hot. shows it was first posted in March 30th, 2022 (with no updates before and on August 22nd, 2022).
The currently has Pizza Hot posts going back June 4th, 2023.

Do you think Abelius would leave money on the table for more than a year, which is the gap between starting his subscribestar and his first posts of his Patreon for Pizza Hot? No. I don't think he ever explicitly stated that Pizza Cold was a way for people who liked his game but only used Patreon to fund Pizza Hot in a roundabout way, but to me it was pretty clear Pizza Cold was a workaround when it was announced. Pizza Cold never got much dev time and was just enough different for him to say "No, it's a different game", and everything was consensual.

I think at some point in the thread Abelius started complaining about not having that Patreon money for Pizza Hot and put Pizza Hot on Patreon anyway (because the whole Pizza Cold wink-wink-nudge-nudge thing was fairly obtuse for most people to understand, not that he acknowledged that).
Thanks. Found it. Appreciated.
 
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