Publishing in France

[velwitch7]

Hello gents. Long time lurker on this website. Decided it was time to give something back.

Started a Ren'py NTR visual novel recently. Its getting there smoothly. BUT. It's hard to find information regarding what you can publish in my country, France. The porn part is no issue I believe, but the game might feature some rape scenes. Would be distributed here probably, with a patreon link.

Many questions arose. Is it legal to publish it for a french resident, if it contains rape. If its not, is blackmail ok? Where's the line here. Can I publish it with the help of Kagura for instance if it isn't? Nutaku?

What do you declare? Where? I'm lost. I'm very much enjoying the creation process, but I'd rather not go to jail over it honestly.

Thanks in advance guys !

 

[c3p0]

As always, asking for legal advice on a message board is a bad idea.

Or how do you separate the advice given to you as valid or not valid?
Only 0.8% of the users here come from France* (around 60 000). From those 0.8% how many of them are active (assuming a total of 100 000 active users - means the also write posts - this leaves 800)?
And how many of them have valid knowledge for this topic?
And how many will give that to you for free? Usually the people that work on those topic are know for having good hourly wage rate.

So, my advice is if you like to have good and valid advice on those topic, ask a legal counsellor that works in this field of topic.

Also it is not only the law of France you need to consider, but also the TOS of the publishing plattform you use (Steam, GOG, Subscribstar, Patreon, Itch, ...).
Eg.

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Sexual violence

Patreon has zero tolerance when it comes to works, real or animated, that glorify non-consensual sexual acts such as rape, sexual assault or coerced consent (e.g. under the influence of drugs or alcohol, hypnosis, blackmail). Personal accounts or survival stories involving sexual violence, however, are permitted.

*Might be more, if we only use the world population that have access to the internet vs. the France population that have access to the internet.

 

[reaver34]

French dude here, working toward making my own game aswell.
I don't think there are specifics laws that prevent us to publish this kind of content, i'd assume the bigest barrier would be the platform you share it on, ex: patreon = rape is bad.
beside asking a lawyer I don't see how you could have a definitive answer.
maybe try jailbreaking chat gpt into giving you a rundown on rape-infused virtual content in france.
I don't think there is a law speific to porn games, but there must be one regarding porn content in general that porn games falls into.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Only 0.8% of the users here come from France* (around 60 000). From those 0.8% how many of them are active (assuming a total of 100 000 active users - means the also write posts - this leaves 800)?
And how many of them have valid knowledge for this topic?
And how many will give that to you for free?

Until the last line I thought that he was a lucky guy...
Then came the said last line and now I question myself because Christmas is coming you know



More seriously, in France there isn't really laws regarding lewd and pornographic content. There's what is illegal, mostly underage, bestiality and apology of none consensual sex, and the rest isn't really controlled. We care more about preventing people to involuntarily access lewd and pornographic content, and even voluntarily if they are minor, than about the content itself.
It's probably the reason why OP have a hard time to find information. If you ask google about the topic, you'll get tons of links talking about access restriction, and near to nothing regarding the legality of the content itself.
To give an idea regarding how little French people care about this, the

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is relatively explicit by its emptiness.

This being said, I have no fucking clue if we make a difference between real people, realistic representation and drawing. At least when it come to porn itself. Because when it's just lewd content, I know that comics including nudity are sold with those who don't; unlike magazines like Playboy, who are sold apart from other magazines.

So, my advice is if you like to have good and valid advice on those topic, ask a legal counsellor that works in this field of topic.

I fully second this. Not just for the legality of the content, but also because we are a fucked up country when it come to taxes. To the question, "is what I want to do legal", the answer will surely be "yes" (even if there's incest), but then will come the "what legal status should I have and how many taxes will I pay" that will need an hour to be answered to.

Also it is not only the law of France you need to consider, [...]

Knowing how bad we are with English, I guess that OP wanted to ask about "publishing from France", but obviously you're right, what will limit him is the rest of the world.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

I don't think they'll arrest you unless you cuck el presidente.

 

[Axyal]

I think if you go to jail for this, whoaw.
You would be famous XD
and a lot of people would be in jail before you.

The problem is patreon.
But subscribe star dont mind the rape/beast/scat and other rough theme. I'm not sure, but as far i remember.
But patreon is more famous!
And again, you wont go to jail for that (i think!), but i'm not a lawer, and ask to an lawer is indeed the best solution.

 

[anne O'nymous]

and a lot of people would be in jail before you.

*cough* Westy *cough*

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

I mean, it's France and infidelity. That's like bread and butter.

 

[Clover.]

Whoa, hot goth chick. Stopped reading there, keeping F95 tradition. Update when?

 

[Dryme]

Omelette fromauge

 

[c3p0]

But subscribe star dont mind the rape/beast/scat and other rough theme. I'm not sure, but as far i remember.

You've read their TOS?

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[Axyal]

*cough* Westy *cough*

Holy crap! This is real! Damn ok, uhhh... Thanks! lol

You've read their TOS?

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Ok i'm confusing with another site, i'll look right now. I remember people went to another site wich dont mind the "theme" of your stuff. Maybe beside pedothing i guess these are the worst. Gonna check now and edit this in a few


Edit: Ok this is complicate ... I dont see a lot of ways actually :s

 

[Axyal]

Maybe this:

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I'm not sure it may be "possible". Others will tell if i'm wrong, or you can verify yourself. ^^