Quality of NTR dropping?

[RoseWulfLea]

I want to start by saying I have enjoyed the NTR genre for a few years now. Otomedori was my gateway drug essentially and soon it became one of the top three fetishes I look up (the other two are impreg and loli). Something I have been noticing as of late, however, is that there are less and less quality NTR being released. Whereas there typically was a few good ones you could find it seems nowadays most release with the same half-baked plot and little effort put into it. Authors that had some good works now seem to just remake their old stuff with a couple changes here and there. It has become bland and repetitive. Has anyone else noticed this? There are several variations of NTR that exist, and yet most of what I find is the same hardcore, mindbreak the cuck, plot over and over again.

 

[Letstryitout]

As tags become more popular, more content is created about them, and some people are in it for easy money and don't care what they put up. And you need to know that NTR as a plot device is trope-y, so they usually take the same routes.

It's nothing new.

 

[Noah Neim]

Ntr has always been a fast food genre (like step porn), something few people are willing to admit they enjoy more than they wish. This demand created a supply of garbage which the fans will happily eat up, as coomers always have very low standards.
As long as the picture is moving, the penis is rising for these people, so anything else, music, story, gameplay is thrown right out the window.
Only after you reach a level of post nut clarity where you realize you're a sad pathetic piece of shit for liking this that you start looking for proper games, dw, it's a part of the life cycle of all coomers, good luck

 

[reaver34]

I mean, I'm not sure it is entirely correct. if you look back a couple years back, not only most of the NTR content was shitty japanese made RPGM MTLed to hell an back or some japanese VN with good content but entierely devoid of game play.
with the occasional rare exception such as Leanne 1/2.

I wouldn't say it was better than it is now. it's just that now we've been eating the same stuff for multiple years now, the taste has faded away but the Hunger remains.

let's be concrete, what kind of NTR GAME would you want to see pop out? what kind of story, mechanics, settings, gameplay elements, scenes etc...I've got a few game ideas and I'm slowly learning to make games but figuring out what fresh ideas people want and how to insert them into game without redoing what has already been done 20 time is not that easy.

personally, i'd love to see more game with actual gameplay and consequences, the NTR being the consequence of your failure.
EX: leanne 1/2: NTR happens if you fail to rescue your generals or fail to protect them from the king(or as a result of some quests you shouldn't do)
Nebel Geisterjager: NTR happens if you fail to kill the ghosts in your dimensions quickly enough, forcing your partner to take damage and rest with your rival in Her dimension.

what are you actually looking for?

 

[RoseWulfLea]

I mean, I'm not sure it is entirely correct. if you look back a couple years back, not only most of the NTR content was shitty japanese made RPGM MTLed to hell an back or some japanese VN with good content but entierely devoid of game play.
with the occasional rare exception such as Leanne 1/2.

I wouldn't say it was better than it is now. it's just that now we've been eating the same stuff for multiple years now, the taste has faded away but the Hunger remains.

let's be concrete, what kind of NTR GAME would you want to see pop out? what kind of story, mechanics, settings, gameplay elements, scenes etc...I've got a few game ideas and I'm slowly learning to make games but figuring out what fresh ideas people want and how to insert them into game without redoing what has already been done 20 time is not that easy.

personally, i'd love to see more game with actual gameplay and consequences, the NTR being the consequence of your failure.
EX: leanne 1/2: NTR happens if you fail to rescue your generals or fail to protect them from the king(or as a result of some quests you shouldn't do)
Nebel Geisterjager: NTR happens if you fail to kill the ghosts in your dimensions quickly enough, forcing your partner to take damage and rest with your rival in Her dimension.

what are you actually looking for?

Honestly? Less focus on the cuck aspect. I dunno if it is a change in taste or I notice it more now, but anything that takes more than a minute or two to focus on the degradation of the cuck tends to not be to my taste. I like the girl being stolen bits and the corruption of her, but find it hard to get off on some dude crying cause he can't get the girl.

The more consensual ntr (Netori? I have to double check) would be interesting as well. There was one game that was posted a while back that baited that specific NTR form, and switched to hardcore NTR at the end. Much to my frustration.

 

[reaver34]

Honestly? Less focus on the cuck aspect. I dunno if it is a change in taste or I notice it more now, but anything that takes more than a minute or two to focus on the degradation of the cuck tends to not be to my taste. I like the girl being stolen bits and the corruption of her, but find it hard to get off on some dude crying cause he can't get the girl.

The more consensual ntr (Netori? I have to double check) would be interesting as well. There was one game that was posted a while back that baited that specific NTR form, and switched to hardcore NTR at the end. Much to my frustration.

netorare = your girl being stolen
netori = you stealing other girls
netorase = your girl being fucked but you like it(swinging/sharing partner)

netorase is hard to pull off, it's a fine line between Netorare and vanilla to me personnaly. what's makes me like netorase is the implied netorare aspect of it, without the repercussion of it.(indecent wife hana does it very well for the first half of the game, kinda wacky after a while)

if everyone is fucking everyone, there's no stakes in the game and it's just porn pretending to be a game at that point, so yeah, in my perspective netorase is good, but require a very good writing style or ideas to be good and not just meh.

blurring walls (i think it's called) use AI CG, but has a very good way of doing it, there's the excitation of your girl doing stuff with another dude, but you don't feel left out.