Unity Red Lotus Ninja Scroll [v0.1.0 Alpha] [Sekiren2023]

[Zane Carlson]

That's a pretty speedy run! I wonder if I should make a leaderboard for speedrunning the boss or something like that on the main post?

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(anyone know how to stop YT videos at a specific time?)

 

[Zane Carlson]

i don't really understand the struggle with the final boss , his attacks are super telegraphed and your dash is instant

E X A C T L Y .

Personally, I struggled a while and took like 15 tries or so but thats not bc he was really hard, I just kept getting impatient and too greedy with my hits which led to my losing my hp in a stupid way

The general tactic is to just hit him 2 times and dash away immediatley as he will either counter you close range or do his chop attack. Second phase with the barrel is practically the same thing, dont get greedy when he starts spinning. Outside of his spin, same 2 hit run tactic. it just took like a good 2 minutes to kill that fucker

That's it, I had about enough of this, I am going to play the game now!
I wanna see how well I fare now.

I know not everyone is at the same skill level for video games, but I swear, there's no way that I'm just so good not to notice the high bar for entry...

Well your signature does make that part more apparent.

 

[FireRagerBatl]

Finally we got a real thread, cinema

 

[xUNOwen]

someone has a save for the gallery? to me it's unplayable

 

[Zane Carlson]

That's it, I had about enough of this, I am going to play the game now!
I wanna see how well I fare now.

Ok, the controls take a little getting used to and I should probably not play this at like 3-4 in the morning.
Area 3 is giving me a run for my money.
Ain't no way am I gonna fight the boss like this!
I report back tomorrow.

 

[Xecchi]

This game is absolute cinema

 

[Takatwo]

Two minutes is a little less than average for a boss fight, and you can stop the spin entirely the same way you break the shields of the blue shirt bandits. But yeah, you're entirely right--the easiest way to win is to get a handle on your greed. Easier said than done sometimes, but muscle memory can be...unlearned.

I think these two points is where most of the issues with the boss comes from, I don't think I'm alone in having completely missed the tell to grab enemies out of their armor (for both the boss and the shield guys in the previous levels) and the fight being infinitely longer than any you've face before (if you've faced any at all), so people just try to rush him down, get punished by the only move that comes out in less than a week, quickly learn that the 3rd combo hit is nearly unuseable in most situation, completely giving up on it, relying on 1st and 2nd hit which do pitiful damage, makes the fight take even longer, leading to frustration and impatience
Along with the fact that h games that actually try to challenge you in any way are rare, you've got the perfect recipe for a noob trap

 

[Supreme Dumbass of Thyme]

I don't think I'm alone in having completely missed the tell to grab enemies out of their armor (for both the boss and the shield guys in the previous levels)

You aren't the only one, so that one's a bit more forgivable, but people are quick to assume that if they can't do something, it's impossible.

and the fight being infinitely longer than any you've face before (if you've faced any at all), so people just try to rush him down

While this makes sense, this bugs me. We all actively acknowledge it's a boss fight off-rip, so why is the first instinct to not treat it like a boss...?

quickly learn that the 3rd combo hit is nearly unuseable in most situation, completely giving up on it, relying on 1st and 2nd hit which do pitiful damage, makes the fight take even longer, leading to frustration and impatience

Completely understandable, but something that should be mentioned: the third hit can land reliably quite often, in fact. You have to just be aware of certain cues and keep track of how long animations may take. (Also, reminder that it can be cancelled before you leave the ground, so that makes it a lot harder to get punished for.) This is not something new players would know, so this is definitely a noob trap like you said, but it also kinda acts like that bar for entry I mentioned a little while ago. The game essentially says "if you can't learn how to play the game well enough to beat this boss, you aren't going to survive past this point.)