Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN

[Ukghar]

I don't think you understand the context or meaning here.

Maybe so.

From my understanding proposed regulation was "Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN". And list of banned content isn't public. As such it would be punishing someone for doing something that they could not have even known was prohibited. That's similar to punishing individuals by the North Korean authorities for violating parts of the country's criminal code that are not publicly disclosed. That's why I saw "a disturbing similarity".

Still, have I wrongly assumed that "Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN" also means that requesting games/comics with ** that appear occasionally/once is subject to instant ban? If my interpretation is correct - the question "what level of due diligence [in checking if the work contains **] is required?" persists.

 

[morphnet]

Still, have I wrongly assumed that "Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN"

Ok to make it absolutely clear....

"Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN"

** is real life stuff i.e. real children
Banned content is rule 7 stuff etc. i.e. loli / shota.

also means that requesting games/comics with ** that appear occasionally/once is subject to instant ban?

I know of no comics or games that contain ** but IF they do exist then YES, VERY MUCH YES instant ban and I hope they also get reported to the authorities.

BUT it is not limited to comics / games, ANY form = instant ban

If my interpretation is correct - the question "what level of due diligence [in checking if the work contains **] is required?" persists

None, NO due diligence, if someone asks for ** they don't get or deserve "due" anything, instant ban and again hopefully reported to the authorities.

This is why I said I don't think you understand the context or meaning...

Next time it might be better to ask rather than comparing the site to NK and implying the rules might be unfair.

 

[Ukghar]

Ok to make it absolutely clear....

"Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN"
** is real life stuff i.e. real children
Banned content is rule 7 stuff etc. i.e. loli / shota.

I know of no comics or games that contain ** but IF they do exist then YES, VERY MUCH YES instant ban and I hope they also get reported to the authorities.

BUT it is not limited to comics / games, ANY form = instant ban

None, NO due diligence, if someone asks for ** they don't get or deserve "due" anything, instant ban and again hopefully reported to the authorities.

This is why I said I don't think you understand the context or meaning...

Next time it might be better to ask rather than comparing the site to NK and implying the rules might be unfair.

Well, I assumed that "**" stands for "child pornography", meaning something like "any visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexual activity." If "**" is restricted to "real life stuff" that changes a lot.

I also don't know of any comics or games that contain "**" as defined by you, but as you wisely pointed out, they might exist. And if they do, we're back to square one: "What level of due diligence [in checking if the work contains **] is required?"

Here are some examples that I hope are non-controversial:
1) comics or games from the dark web – these should not be requested for various reasons;
2) comics or games from respected publishers – these should be safe to request for various reasons.
But what about things in between? For instance, comics or games published by smaller creators, where the available information does not indicate the presence of ** content? In such cases, I believe it would be unfair to impose an instant ban on someone for requesting the game or comic in question.

Of course, if "**" is strictly limited to "real life stuff", such situations are less likely to occur, but they remain a possibility.

 

[morphnet]

If "**" is restricted to "real life stuff" that changes a lot.

Not sure why you would think IF here, the title says Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN, the / stands for, and or, so if someone requests ** and or banned content.

I also don't know of any comics or games that contain "**" as defined by you

It is not my definition but one I fully support and agree with and so does everyone else who know the term and content.

And if they do, we're back to square one: "What level of due diligence [in checking if the work contains **] is required?"

You have already asked this and I answered it.

None, NO due diligence, if someone asks for ** they don't get or deserve "due" anything, instant ban and again hopefully reported to the authorities.

You have full access to the request section and can clearly see the types of requests made.

Here are some examples that I hope are non-controversial:
1) comics or games from the dark web – these should not be requested for various reasons;
2) comics or games from respected publishers – these should be safe to request for various reasons.
But what about things in between? For instance, comics or games published by smaller creators, where the available information does not indicate the presence of ** content? In such cases, I believe it would be unfair to impose an instant ban on someone for requesting the game or comic in question.

You clearly are NOT thinking this all the way through.

I am hoping / assuming this is a translation issue and not you ignoring that facts.

 

[Codex07]

Ok to make it absolutely clear....

"Requesting **/banned content = INSTANT BAN"

** is real life stuff i.e. real children
Banned content is rule 7 stuff etc. i.e. loli / shota.



I know of no comics or games that contain ** but IF they do exist then YES, VERY MUCH YES instant ban and I hope they also get reported to the authorities.

BUT it is not limited to comics / games, ANY form = instant ban



None, NO due diligence, if someone asks for ** they don't get or deserve "due" anything, instant ban and again hopefully reported to the authorities.

This is why I said I don't think you understand the context or meaning...

Next time it might be better to ask rather than comparing the site to NK and implying the rules might be unfair.

good sir, do you think only game with rule 7 are banned? theres many circumstances around the dev that could get their game banned.

 

[morphnet]

good sir, do you think only game with rule 7 are banned? theres many circumstances around the dev that could get their game banned.

You are correct, rule 7 is not the only reason a game can be banned / removed, however in the context of the discussion that the above reply relates to, rule 7 was the focus.

Games can and will be banned / removed for breaking any of the rules of the site.

However the staff and mods do their best to be as fair as they can, this includes sometimes leaving the last version that did not have banned content up, if the game removes the banned content and has it as a optional patch they sometimes leave the game and only ban the patch etc.

It is also important to remember that these rules are in place to protect the community and the site. The staff and mods do a great job with little thanks and as part of the community us members can help by following and supporting the rules.

 

[dluser]

how do i know which games are banned ?
is there a list somewhere ? i searched & can not find what i'm looking for unless there are some threads that can not be searched only if you are in those threads & no one tells you the name or supplies a link to those threads

 

[morphnet]

how do i know which games are banned ?
is there a list somewhere ? i searched & can not find what i'm looking for unless there are some threads that can not be searched only if you are in those threads & no one tells you the name or supplies a link to those threads

There is no list.

If you don't see a game on the site go to the games request section, first look in the rejected section, if it hasn't been rejected read the rules for requesting and then make a request. If the game is allowed someone might be able to fill the request.

https://f95zone.to/forums/game-requests.3/
https://f95zone.to/forums/rejected-game-requests.5/
https://f95zone.to/threads/game-requesting-rules-2018-august-09.36/