[Ren'Py] Seeds Of Chaos [v0.2.61b] [Vénus Noire]

[shyvor]

can you upload again?

the current dl link is still working, just search back in the thread for posts by me

 

[AidsDelivered]

i could write greyhide stuff xD

 

[dancecommander12]

What story thread do you feel is abandoned? The fundamental problem isn't that we're spreading ourselves to thin. It's that the entire writing team shifted in the middle of development.

Why is Shaya, for example badly underserved? Because we have no idea what do with her. We also have a directive to actually advance the story with Rastedel.

Why is there fae stuff going on right now when Greyhide hasn't been getting a lot? Because the fae writer doesn't write other stuff and the main team has been fixing the mechanics and making Rastedel. Greyhide meanwhile lacks a dedicated writer.

So what are we doing about it? Well, part of the goal is to add some writers to help fill in the gaps. That's the plan with the M/M writer mostly. Part of the goal is to take some time to expand the castle segments after we finish up Rastedel.

It's not one story thread, it's almost everyone in the castle. None of them have seen much development. Maybe one or two tease scenes and that's it. Anyway, thanks for the response. I can see you have your hands full.

I'm glad to hear that you plan on focusing on the castle after Rastedel. It badly needs it, and it is where most the action happens.

 

[Alleykatt]

I would like to see Rowan humiliated a bit more. This could be NTR, with Alexia fucking other men in front of him, or maybe Rowan is forced/coerced into gay/futa sex.

 

[TheMagister]

To add to the walkthrough post, I would always build the tavern first. I think military might is hardly necessary at the start of the game, and the Tavern increases your revenue, which makes building all the other shit quicker. If you want to infiltrate Raeve Keep with spies, I would only build the tavern as well (because the brothel is expensive as...dicks).

 

[diebesgrab]

To add to the walkthrough post, I would always build the tavern first. I think military might is hardly necessary at the start of the game, and the Tavern increases your revenue, which makes building all the other shit quicker. If you want to infiltrate Raeve Keep with spies, I would only build the tavern as well (because the brothel is expensive as...dicks).

While it's true that the Tavern is a pretty good source of income, I would say that quickly bringing villages under your control through capture and trade agreements is an even better source—in my latest save file, at week 15, I have 97 gold per week coming from villages alone. Since there are more important research projects to take care of early if you want to infiltrate than there are building projects, my preference is to amp up the tech rate as fast as possible; and since I like getting the somewhat difficult Greyhide route started ASAP, my preference is to get the Dark Sanctum done first for the research, and the Forge done next for Greyhide. It also helps that getting both of those done first multiplies the effectiveness of each orc soldier, meaning I have to use fewer for capturing those early few villages.

That said, it's absolutely possible to get the brothel built in time for Raeve if you start with the tavern; I haven't tried it myself, so I'm not sure what sort of rate of money you'd get out of it, but you can certainly still get what I'd consider the four most important research projects done by Week 22 even with the base research rate. That said, if you can get up to a research rate of 15 or higher by week 12 (not a difficult feat if you start with the dark sanctum and are working with a map and can find abbeys quickly), you can get those 4 projects done by week 18 or sooner, giving you ample time to build everything if you can secure the funds—and if you can get to all 7 villages by week 10, you should have more than enough funds.

For reference, in that week 15 save file I was talking about, after building the Dark Sanctum, Forge, Tavern, and Brothel in that order, I'm sitting on 945 gold and have ~125 as my total weekly income (varying somewhat week to week), and I haven't even gotten at least one of the ruler events (the Cla-Min one triggered when I was trying to remind myself which research projects did what). Granted, not everyone's going to want to savescum the villages, because that's pretty tedious. With that kind of income, though, you can just build the Dark Sanctum, Forge, and Tavern in consecutive weeks and feel pretty safe that you'll have enough for the Brothel and the Week 22 quota as well, so you're only losing two weeks worth of the tavern's income. As to my preference for building the Forge before the Tavern, well, that's personal preference again, but the sooner you start equipping soldiers with iron gear, the fewer of them you need to capture villages, and the sooner you can start collecting money from them. I'm willing to waste another week of potential Tavern profits to secure those villages all the earlier.

tl;dr: Nothing wrong with going Tavern -> Dark Sanctum -> Forge -> Brothel, but I feel like it's more limiting to your options than going Dark Sanctum -> Forge -> Tavern -> Brothel. Speeding up those research projects early on really helps accelerate things, and you can secure pretty ample funds from villages if you know where to find them.

 

[aqd]

What story thread do you feel is abandoned? The fundamental problem isn't that we're spreading ourselves to thin. It's that the entire writing team shifted in the middle of development.

Why is Shaya, for example badly underserved? Because we have no idea what do with her. We also have a directive to actually advance the story with Rastedel.

Why is there fae stuff going on right now when Greyhide hasn't been getting a lot? Because the fae writer doesn't write other stuff and the main team has been fixing the mechanics and making Rastedel. Greyhide meanwhile lacks a dedicated writer.

So what are we doing about it? Well, part of the goal is to add some writers to help fill in the gaps. That's the plan with the M/M writer mostly. Part of the goal is to take some time to expand the castle segments after we finish up Rastedel.

What themes could use additional writing other than M/M?
Could you use any editing assistance, or are you primarily in need of original writing?
Where would one submit writing samples?

 

[T51bwinterized]

Seeds of Chaos does not take unsolicited submissions and to date we haven't accepted any unpaid writers. Volunteer writers have historically low consistency and it's generally not worth the effort.

We are currently working with a new writer for M/M and some M/F content and we hope to debut material from him this month. That, and the end of Rein's mechanics rework, should mean more castle events. Same with the end of the Rastedel narrative.

Beyond that, the main concern is funds. We can only pay so many people to write so many words. Y'all might not have noticed but we've bitten off quite a bit here and we're doing our best to chew it.

 

[FirstDeadlySin]

I would like to see Rowan humiliated a bit more. This could be NTR, with Alexia fucking other men in front of him, or maybe Rowan is forced/coerced into gay/futa sex.

That's cucking.

 

[FirstDeadlySin]

What story thread do you feel is abandoned? The fundamental problem isn't that we're spreading ourselves to thin. It's that the entire writing team shifted in the middle of development.

Why is Shaya, for example badly underserved? Because we have no idea what do with her. We also have a directive to actually advance the story with Rastedel.

Why is there fae stuff going on right now when Greyhide hasn't been getting a lot? Because the fae writer doesn't write other stuff and the main team has been fixing the mechanics and making Rastedel. Greyhide meanwhile lacks a dedicated writer.

So what are we doing about it? Well, part of the goal is to add some writers to help fill in the gaps. That's the plan with the M/M writer mostly. Part of the goal is to take some time to expand the castle segments after we finish up Rastedel.

Have you guys thought of hiring SlutWriter? They're one of the good ones.

 

[TheSexinati]

Have you guys thought of hiring SlutWriter? They're one of the good ones.

No offense, while I do like Slutwriter's work myself... I have the feeling that Hyper-penises, Dick-cheese and Pissing-in-orifices is not exactly going to be featured in the story (Though If we ever get the option to piss on Andras, I'd be all for it!). Additionally, I am not sure if SlutWriter's writing style would complement a Visual-novel style of writing, which tends to be more condensed.

But god-damn, when Slutwriter does MxM content, which is somewhat of a rarity... Nnnnggggg!

 

[Morgul Xen]

Just started playing this game, and I gotta say love the artwork. I wish I could play as a half-demon though, humans are weak.

 

[AsheTDust]

Just started playing this game, and I gotta say love the artwork. I wish I could play as a half-demon though, humans are weak.

Who is to say that Rowan or Alex will not change into a demon during the course of the game. Some fans are actively hoping for it.

 

[midnightmonster]

I really enjoy this game. Except that I wish you could replay some scenes. Especially with the girl that the MC claims for himself. I mean, week after week, she just stares at you in your room, and there's nothing you can do about it. What a waste of a girl.

 

[T51bwinterized]

I really enjoy this game. Except that I wish you could replay some scenes. Especially with the girl that the MC claims for himself. I mean, week after week, she just stares at you in your room, and there's nothing you can do about it. What a waste of a girl.

Wait a bit. She recovers eventually.

 

[Alleykatt]

While you are here, is there anything you can do to stop her escaping? If I say no, Alexia always helps her escape.

 

[diebesgrab]

While you are here, is there anything you can do to stop her escaping? If I say no, Alexia always helps her escape.

There's one way to prevent it, only available if Rowan claimed her when capturing Raeve Keep. When she confronts Rowan about trying to escape, you have to choose to have him tell her he loves her.

Perhaps if heavily corrupt Rowan options are added to the early parts of the game, eventually there might be a way to keep her around by fully mindbreaking her? Though probably not, that sounds like a lot of extra work.

 

[Alleykatt]

I yes, I was aware of that option, but it doesn't seem like something my Rowan would say. Thanks anyway.

 

[irreverant]

Where the greyhide content cuh

 

[Pseudonymous Pervert]

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Once again, I, Winter, have taken over your screens. Now I am the master. I am invincible. I am...

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Yes yes yes. Okay. Get to the point.

First, this is your reminder that we have the new poll up. We have one for Patrons (

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). They're very important so please fill them out.

But, the actual reason Arioch has (foolishly) given me a microphone is to tell you about our newest reward goal.

To help promote growth and give back to you folks, I am offering an opportunity. When we reach 8.5K, I will write one non-cannon scene for you guys. An official fanfiction for Seeds of Chaos.

Why care? Because if we reach it, it'll be up to you what pairing is included, and it can be anyone. Anyone.

Jacques and Shaya? Sure. Cliohna and Ulcro. Why but okay? Duke Raeve and Alexia? ...why?

This is going to be a one time thing and is totally non-cannon. The mechanics of how you guys will decide what I write can be left for when the goal is reached.

But I love you guys and I love working for this game, and I just want to give back to you guys with something weird and fun.

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Fine fine, I'm going I'm going."
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Not sure how I feel about this, maybe this will result in more Rowan fucking Liurial? That would be nice, of course more elf sluts for Rowan to fuck in general would be nice.