Rivina

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Huh, interesting. Probably a wise decision though, I imagine Rowan/the player has enough on their plates.
 

dhuemnptai

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Huh, interesting. Probably a wise decision though, I imagine Rowan/the player has enough on their plates.
Also, the nemesis would probably took space from the other NTR routes. They can't release only NTR, so this would mean less Andras and Jezera path so we can have a nemesis arc. Also, it could be hard to make a new character successfully seducing and stealing Alexia with Andras and Jezera trying this since the beginning of the game. Divoce is probably be an option in the future too, so stealing Alexia may not have that much impact in some routes.
 
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Spicyporkcutlet

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...I can't stand the lame plot. If they're able to defeat Rowan so easily, what's the point of luring him away with a trap? Also, what's the point of getting a hero's help to lead their army or whatever? It's not like that's something he specializes in.
 

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I don't have any insider info about what the devs have planned for the future, but I think the nemesis could make a lot of sense for act 2.

With the Twins having a target on their backs after conquering a city as large as Rastedel, they will probably have to seriously look into alliances with other corrupted forces, the nemesis could potentially be a liaison of one of the other big players sent to the castle to coordinate their efforts. Bonus points if she's a former hero like Rowan or has been building a heroic reputation so that it also makes sense for them to have to keep a friendly appearance and occasionally work together when spying on the humans.

I think such a dynamic could lead to interesting interactions: If Rowan is becoming corrupt then their rivarly could be instigated by their respective masters pitting them against each other to see who was the best "corrupted champion". If Rowan is submissive to the Twins then they could try to command him to best the nemesis while they continue using and humiliating him, to intimidate the nemesis and send a message ("we can enslave one of the most competent heroes and turn him into our bitch, imagine what we could do to you"). And if Rowan is still defying the Twins and resisting the corruption, then the nemesis could REALLY have it out for him, and the Twins could give her carte blanche to fuck with Rowan as much as she wants if it means breaking his spirit and having him give up on any kind of heroism.
 
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Rivina

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If we're just spitballing out ideas, in that scenario I'd rather try to ally with the nemesis. I doubt they're being treated particularly well by their overlord(s)
 

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Same issue why the system was put to the side: too much work while they still need to progress the story and make the basic systems working well.

I get the feeling the nemesis system won't return anytime soon, if it returns.
 

manscout

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If we're just spitballing out ideas, in that scenario I'd rather try to ally with the nemesis. I doubt they're being treated particularly well by their overlord(s)
Based on the unused CG and the idea of she being a nemesis, I envisioned the nemesis character being extremely corrupted, she has already fully embraced the idea that "might makes right" to the point where she doesn't even resent her overlord anymore, and at least at first she wouldn't have any reason to think allying Rowan would give her any benefits (maybe she could fakeout sympathizing with Rowan's position to get the best of him early on).

Maybe as a conclusion to their rivalry she could be made to switch sides if Rowan is the victor: A corrupt Rowan could convince her he is "dark overlord" material and that she should serve him. And a Rowan that is loyal to the Twins could convince her to join the winning side and betray her overlord, with both of them serving the Twins now.

But for a pure Rowan? I think she would hate his guts and have massive resentment over the fact he still thinks he can be a real hero after being made to serve demons. I don't think there should be any way of turning her unless we go the route of Rowan somehow managing to "purify" her and getting her to restore the good in her that had been buried down for so long... of course that, knowing this game, imediatelly afterwards she would be caught and Rowan would be forced to watch while she was tortured and mindbroken.

Same issue why the system was put to the side: too much work while they still need to progress the story and make the basic systems working well.

I get the feeling the nemesis system won't return anytime soon, if it returns.
I said it would be an interesting idea by the time act 2 rolls around, we're still probably over a year from that since the devs are still gonna finish revamping the skills and equipment systems, add the entire goblin forest area and quest, rework the conquest of Rastedel, and who knows what else before they consider act 1 finished. I don't think it would be too unreasonable to expect the devs to have the "basic systems working well" by then, and if that's the case then I think the nemesis system would be a pretty cool way of expanding beyond the basic systems.

Ultimately, I want the nemesis system for act 2 particularly because by then the player needs a break from having the Twins as constant antagonists they can't overcome. For a corrupted Rowan, regardless if he is truly loyal to them or not, it wouldn't even make sense for them to keep acting so extremely antagonistic to him since Rowan is becoming everything they wanted him to be. And for a pure Rowan, since he probably won't get the best out of the Twins until act 3, might as well give him an antagonist he is allowed to beat for act 2, because like I said before, it would be extremely tiresome if act 2 continued with Rowan unable to get any real victories.
 

HatlessHobie

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Does anyone else has problems where the game freezes/lags? i would have to constantly close out the game and restart. Any solutions to this?
 

regally

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I remember managing to open up a "console command" menu where I could just select the scenes I wanted. I don't know what the exact name for this menu is called and I can't remember how I opened it. I don't even know if it's even in the latest download or if it's been removed. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
 

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I remember managing to open up a "console command" menu where I could just select the scenes I wanted. I don't know what the exact name for this menu is called and I can't remember how I opened it. I don't even know if it's even in the latest download or if it's been removed. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
That menu (Still in the game) is enabled by having the Ren'py console enabled. It's detailed briefly in the linked post in my sig, though my post is much more about the Ren'py console commands for this game as enabling the console is the same across all Ren'py games and thus really easy to find details for. Search F95 for Unren for the easiest method.
 
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Limited20

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Is futa/trans and NTR avoidable?
You can turn off NTR after the intro. This will stop one on one NTR options.
But this does NOT turn off group stuff (Rowan x Alexia x Other).

I did the mistake to pick "Comfront her" to the succubuss in the start, the moment she made rowan and alexia naked I knew what was going to happen, I insta loaded an old save and lost a few mins of progress.

But dont worry about Alexia. With NTR OFF, she is super loyal after the intro. Im still playing and have yet to finish it but Alexia avoids any flirts and advances from other characters very well. Its only in the intro where she shows some hoe tendencies

If anything you should be more worried about Rowan since NTR OFF does not prevent him from sleeping around.
 
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NukaCola

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You can turn off NTR after the intro. This will stop one on one NTR options.
But this does NOT turn off group stuff (Rowan x Alexia x Other).

I did the mistake to pick "Comfront her" to the succubuss in the start, the moment she made rowan and alexia naked I knew what was going to happen, I insta loaded an old save and lost a few mins of progress.

But dont worry about Alexia. With NTR OFF, she is super loyal after the intro. Im still playing and have yet to finish it but Alexia avoids any flirts and advances from other characters very well. Its only in the intro where she shows some hoe tendencies

If anything you should be more worried about Rowan since NTR OFF does not prevent him from sleeping around.
Thanks. I will take your word for it. But if there is NTR or unavoidable futa/trans sexual encounter I will hunt you down and spank you:devilish:
 
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