Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.13a] [Vénus Noire]

[Nym85]

I mean, reliable consistent updates and game has just finished arc 1 of 5/6 (?) after 4 or 5 years of development. If in a decade from now the game will be progressing at the same rate of now, more power to the devs. Regardless, personally i hope most of the stuff done for chapter 1 was groundwork, and now things will speed up.

Also, true pirates would prob steal the car

Yeah I like the content, they do put out some content regularly but I cannot fathom how they will ever end at the present pace considering the scope of what they are presenting.

 

[360 Danny DeVitos Later]

Again, I didn't ask for that. My issues with SoC are mostly unrelated to the sexual content.

I was just surprised that you and others argued on behalf of bisexuals but we already cleared that up.
If you had claimed, for instance, that gay players don't get enough content that isn't furry or Japanese VNs I wouldn't even have commented since that complaint makes perfect sense to me.

I know you didn't ask for that not aimed at you just the general reaction games with gay/bi get. Yeah, I get what you mean a case of me knowing what I meant about bisexuals but not putting it across well. English isn't my first language some things get lost.

I really do wonder why so many gay games are furry. Just seems to be a thing with porn games I guess.

 

[DownTheDrain]

It's also about being able to identify with a character. In RPGs, Visual Novels, heck even in porn, people enjoy to a great degree being able to identify with one of the characters. Just because a bi person can enjoy watching either straight or gay sex does not mean they will identify with a straight person or a gold star gay It's about having something in common with the characters.

The one thing that is solid in SoC is that Rowan can really choose who he has sex with, at least on a meta level.

You know what, that makes a whole lot more sense to me.
Being able to identify with the main character is pretty damn important to me as well, at least in certain games. If you need the MC to be bi to allow yourself to live through them then I can't really argue against that.

edit:
On an unrelated note, just googled what a "gold star gay" is. The more you know I guess. Can't wait to drop that into a casual conversation at some point.

 

[RMelton]

In terms of gameplay it would be nice to do some rework of certain things. I would say the inventory and status being the big ones. It always feels like you can go through the whole thing without ever levelling up or buying any new items (hell for the longest time I didn't even realise you could level up!). The increase in certain skills do help a bit with some rolls but only barely, there aren't really many situations where you can't advance if you fail a roll and sometimes you can just try again the next day. The skills themselves, I think a few of them could just be squished into a singular skill that utilises them under one theme, Bluff and Deceive and Sleight of Hand could for instance be an overall 'Deception' skill. That's just my opinion though. At the end of the day if there's a choice between doing that or putting more scenes and content in the game I'm definitely for the latter.

 

[Nym85]

I know you didn't ask for that not aimed at you just the general reaction games with gay/bi get. Yeah, I get what you mean a case of me knowing what I meant about bisexuals but not putting it across well. English isn't my first language some things get lost.

I really do wonder why so many gay games are furry. Just seems to be a thing with porn games I guess.

My conspiracy theory is that there must be a ton of really rich gay furries out there because there is an impressive number of artists doing gay furry scenes and getting paid for them.

 

[Silihdar34 (RF)]

My conspiracy theory is that there must be a ton of really rich gay furries out there because there is an impressive number of artists doing gay furry scenes and getting paid for them.

Supply and demand my dude. That small populace of gay furries will play good money for that kinda content.

 

[Rein]

but I cannot fathom how they will ever end at the present pace considering the scope of what they are presenting.

Through sheer motherfucking stubborness.

The development of act 1 stutters at times, because of some early design mistakes. Fae implementation in particular is taking a lot of behind the scenes rework to provide a satisfying act 1 experience.

That's just how it is. As the game progresses, we learn from our past mistakes, and avoid pitfalls when designing new content. If we're smart about it, it will be smooth sailing later on.

In terms of gameplay it would be nice to do some rework of certain things. I would say the inventory and status being the big ones. It always feels like you can go through the whole thing without ever levelling up or buying any new items (hell for the longest time I didn't even realise you could level up!). The increase in certain skills do help a bit with some rolls but only barely, there aren't really many situations where you can't advance if you fail a roll and sometimes you can just try again the next day. The skills themselves, I think a few of them could just be squished into a singular skill that utilises them under one theme, Bluff and Deceive and Sleight of Hand could for instance be an overall 'Deception' skill. That's just my opinion though. At the end of the day if there's a choice between doing that or putting more scenes and content in the game I'm definitely for the latter.

Skill rework has finished design phase and is now slowly being implemented. Due to the sheer volume of events being adjusted, and the necessity to code both new content and rework old events, it's simply taking a while.

 

[Deleted member 770309]

So can you kill them two demons and is the NTR avoidable and i mean real avoidable like you can stop it from happening and it does not just happen in the back ground.

 

[Nym85]

Through sheer motherfucking stubborness.

The development of act 1 stutters at times, because of some early design mistakes. Fae implementation in particular is taking a lot of behind the scenes rework to provide a satisfying act 1 experience.

That's just how it is. As the game progresses, we learn from our past mistakes, and avoid pitfalls when designing new content. If we're smart about it, it will be smooth sailing later on.


Skill rework has finished design phase and is now slowly being implemented. Due to the sheer volume of events being adjusted, and the necessity to code both new content and rework old events, it's simply taking a while.

Honestly, you probably just need more people. But it's definitely a risky proposition. Perhaps you'd need more forms of fundraising.

 

[diebesgrab]

My conspiracy theory is that there must be a ton of really rich gay furries out there because there is an impressive number of artists doing gay furry scenes and getting paid for them.

That's not a conspiracy theory, that's what's actually happening. It's not even subtle, there's so much money coming out of the gay furry community that it's hard to find decent western gay 2D porn that ISN'T furry.

So can you kill them two demons and is the NTR avoidable and i mean real avoidable like you can stop it from happening and it does not just happen in the back ground.

Not yet (eventually). Yes. Yes.

 

[Rein]

Honestly, you probably just need more people.

We're looking into it, alas, the entry requirement for writing SoC long term is:
a) Your soul.
b) Your will to live.

And that's both, not one or the other.

Both.

 

[Nym85]

We're looking into it, alas, the entry requirement for writing SoC long term is:
a) Your soul.
b) Your will to live.

And that's both, not one or the other.

Both.

So suicidal gingers need not apply? Count me out then.

 

[T51bwinterized]

That's just Rein, because he gets off on suffering. I am fueled by the challenge

 

[T51bwinterized]

So suicidal gingers need not apply? Count me out then.

Suicidal Gingers is a core segment of our dev team

 

[Nulleins]

https://f95zone.to/threads/games-with-loads-and-loads-of-characters.63178/

I wonder if this game doesn’t fit the bill, too. It has been two years since my last playthrough, but the sheer scope and the fact that there is a desire to have a character for every fetish in the world in the game, it does/did have quite a lot.

Does anyone, who may or may not be involved in the development of the game, know how many characters it has roughly(or precisely)?

 

[bibell101]

Just to be clear, the scene list is updated with v.0.2.60, right?

 

[DownTheDrain]

Is there some kind of roadmap available?

I'd love to now at which point (version 0.x or whatever) the devs plan on having all the backend stuff and improvements and reworks done and all the core systems implemented and fully functional.
Right now I'm not sure if starting a new playthrough even makes sense when a lot of things are in flux and might change or break along the way.

 

[poodles]

I swear if some straight guys had their way bi and gays would have no games to fap to .

I think you're so used to been focused on that anything not straight feels like it's actively taking stuff away rather than a game that just has both and was always intented to. Then ironically literally want or ask for scenes to be taken away from bi and gay people. There's very few futa scenes for example but you notice them as been focused on because they're usually not there at all. It happens with every game that has both, you get some (not all) straight people complain the game has stuff that's not solely for them and it's too much. It feels like any gay, bi or futa stuff is "too much" . Rather than focus on the stuff that IS for them they focus on what others got and feel they somehow lost something. Like this game has more straight scenes than a lot of games get scenes full stop and still gets complaints if you get where I'm coming from.

I'm bisexual and of the top of my head I have this. Spacecorps, and to a lesser extent Roundscape as good games with a lot of content for both. Otherwise it's straight or straight games with a throwaway scene with a trans girl, gays and lesbians have it worse. I get where you're coming from but straight guys have most of the site can't you just let some games give us fap scenes without asking for removal or less just once ? We need to wank of as well.

I literally said I was being selfish and self-centered.

 

[yggdral]

hello dev, is it a bug or the andras x alexia new ntr event doesnt have lewd cg yet?

 

[T51bwinterized]

hello dev, is it a bug or the andras x alexia new ntr event doesnt have lewd cg yet?

This is not a bug. Seeds of Chaos does not complete CGs and written events at the same time, to ensure that development of either is not constrained. We instead release both as we make them, normally with a lag time between written scenes and the art for them. This has been repeatedly requested by our Patrons and Steam customers, rather then have to wait the uncertain time span for completed art.

We have put a lot of effort into improving the turnaround time between art and writing to remove as many black screens as possible. Where once there were black screens for many releases, now most scenes are filled relatively soon.