YouShallNotLol

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I don't think it's fair to talk about this game from an NTR standpoint or many others, because there are few scenes left to player choice, all the doom and gloom and the same arguments with no ends hurt the game's progress more than the addition of NTR which is fully optional.
Lol. Lmao even. Why the fuck do you think people are descending to doom and gloom? Precicely because of ntr getting added.
If there was no ntr, there would not have been any complaints either. You're missing the point entirely. :KEK:
 
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Letstryitout

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Lol. Lmao even. Why the fuck do you think people are descending to doom and gloom? Precicely because of ntr getting added.
If there was no ntr, there would not have been any complaints either. You're missing the point entirely. :KEK:
Yeah, there is no need to talk anymore. Have a good one pal.
 
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I don't even understand what these ntr shortcuts and angry trench wars mean if I'm being honest, but it always amazes me how there's a game where you have ton of optional content and some random angry schmuck will come from the gutters and calls people subhuman when they choose to play certain content that they don't like.

You don't have to do that. None of those "subhumans" have a gun to your head and forcing you to play. In fact, all that angry talk kind of leads me to suspect you are a closeted enjoyer of it and now lash out at everyone else before you get honest with yourself. The fact that dude has like 7 comments in years and all of them saying the same thing shows an obsession.

It reminds me of that Hungarian homophobic MEP who was caught by journalists fleeing a gay orgy in Brussels :KEK:
 

Letstryitout

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I love the Morgan Patreon art. I've read that there will probably be no content with her, but I would love some time-travel magic stuff for even one content with her and obviously, some story to tell Lene(which probably won't go well.)
 
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l0rdcommander

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I don't even understand what these ntr shortcuts and angry trench wars mean if I'm being honest, but it always amazes me how there's a game where you have ton of optional content and some random angry schmuck will come from the gutters and calls people subhuman when they choose to play certain content that they don't like.

You don't have to do that. None of those "subhumans" have a gun to your head and forcing you to play. In fact, all that angry talk kind of leads me to suspect you are a closeted enjoyer of it and now lash out at everyone else before you get honest with yourself. The fact that dude has like 7 comments in years and all of them saying the same thing shows an obsession.

It reminds me of that Hungarian homophobic MEP who was caught by journalists fleeing a gay orgy in Brussels :KEK:
Quote me at least, coward, LOL.
It's not complicated, as the other user said, now a good game that has limited updates will start to shift focus to shitty NTR scenes instead. I like supporting good games with my money (this was one of them), but now that the dev is using a considerable amount of his efforts in NTR scenes, I simply won't anymore because the good content will take twice as much to come out. So, yeah, it's ruined.
Also, I had 7 comments in 6 years, and 3 of them were about this topic, this is pretty much the opposite of obsessed lmao, not sure why you felt the need to lie about that, calm down, this is not a presidential debate. It's also crazy how it's 2024 and we still don't have a netorase tag, "swinging" is way too broad, adding it can't be that hard.
 
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Quote me at least, coward, LOL.
It's not complicated, as the other user said, now a good game that has limited updates will start to shift focus to shitty NTR scenes instead. I like supporting good games with my money (this was one of them), but now that the dev is using a considerable amount of his efforts in NTR scenes, I simply won't anymore because the good content will take twice as much to come out. So, yeah, it's ruined.
Also, I had 7 comments in 6 years, and 3 of them were about this topic, this is pretty much the opposite of obsessed lmao, not sure why you felt the need to lie about that, calm down, this is not a presidential debate. It's also crazy how it's 2024 and we still don't have a netorase tag, "swinging" is way too broad, adding it can't be that hard.
Bruh you need to spend some more time outside or your blood pressure will get you. Who would then do your invaluable work of calling people "subhumans"
 

TheeSonus

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Not exactly sure why all of this started or where it stemmed from, but I feel like instead of just assuming things automatically we should maybe ask the dev (at least I assume they are anyways)
Honestly not even sure if the (from what I've heard) singular scene in game that's being talked about right now even counts as NTR but not like I've actually seen it myself, so...
Anyways, cough cough. Elinniel, is more "NTR" content intended on being added into the game, or is that single scene all there's ever going to be?
I feel like this is kind of a loaded question and either way people will be disappointed but... that's how developing pretty much ANYTHING goes.
 

Elinniel

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Hello! I have been summoned.

Lene x Lamir was teased in the second update, the one where Lene was added, but there wasn't a real plan to add it to the game. It just happened because of a poll, and well, it keeps being teased, so I thought it was fine if made with care.
Sex Valley is a player-focused game where things ONLY happen with the player's direct involvement. That makes real NTR quite hard to happen, as in my eyes, NTR is something that happens without the player's consent.

That scene that you guys are talking about is a threesome scene where the player gets sidelined in the heat of it, with two girls who are in a relationship with the player, where they are all in agreement to do it; one of them is so drunk she doesn't even remember what happened, and the other just see it as a pity fuck. In my eyes, it isn't really NTR, and anyone who thinks so just didn't read it, as I spent a lot of time making sure the scene couldn't be seen as NTR if people just read it. The closest to NTR in the game is the bad ending with Peach, where the player is taken from the other girls, and that HAS the player's consent to happen.

So yeah, chill. I have no plans for any real NTR that takes away player choice, as this isn't that kind of game.
 

Rixen

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Quote me at least, coward, LOL.
It's not complicated, as the other user said, now a good game that has limited updates will start to shift focus to shitty NTR scenes instead. I like supporting good games with my money (this was one of them), but now that the dev is using a considerable amount of his efforts in NTR scenes, I simply won't anymore because the good content will take twice as much to come out. So, yeah, it's ruined.
Also, I had 7 comments in 6 years, and 3 of them were about this topic, this is pretty much the opposite of obsessed lmao, not sure why you felt the need to lie about that, calm down, this is not a presidential debate. It's also crazy how it's 2024 and we still don't have a netorase tag, "swinging" is way too broad, adding it can't be that hard.
Bro really feels cucked by another girl lmao
 
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Icarus Media

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Hello! I have been summoned.

Lene x Lamir was teased in the second update, the one where Lene was added, but there wasn't a real plan to add it to the game. It just happened because of a poll, and well, it keeps being teased, so I thought it was fine if made with care.
Sex Valley is a player-focused game where things ONLY happen with the player's direct involvement. That makes real NTR quite hard to happen, as in my eyes, NTR is something that happens without the player's consent.

That scene that you guys are talking about is a threesome scene where the player gets sidelined in the heat of it, with two girls who are in a relationship with the player, where they are all in agreement to do it; one of them is so drunk she doesn't even remember what happened, and the other just see it as a pity fuck.
Yep, Lene's a lean mean picnic machine.
 
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UncleTom123

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I've encountered a soft-lock in "Empowering bum-bum 1", the game ends up stuck in an infinite loop when trying to take Elinnie's panties.
 
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Letstryitout

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Hello! I have been summoned.

Lene x Lamir was teased in the second update, the one where Lene was added, but there wasn't a real plan to add it to the game. It just happened because of a poll, and well, it keeps being teased, so I thought it was fine if made with care.
Sex Valley is a player-focused game where things ONLY happen with the player's direct involvement. That makes real NTR quite hard to happen, as in my eyes, NTR is something that happens without the player's consent.

That scene that you guys are talking about is a threesome scene where the player gets sidelined in the heat of it, with two girls who are in a relationship with the player, where they are all in agreement to do it; one of them is so drunk she doesn't even remember what happened, and the other just see it as a pity fuck. In my eyes, it isn't really NTR, and anyone who thinks so just didn't read it, as I spent a lot of time making sure the scene couldn't be seen as NTR if people just read it. The closest to NTR in the game is the bad ending with Peach, where the player is taken from the other girls, and that HAS the player's consent to happen.

So yeah, chill. I have no plans for any real NTR that takes away player choice, as this isn't that kind of game.
I like the thought behind that picnic scene, it shows Lene's personality as meek and shy when it comes to Lamir, but drinking gives her courage and her dominant personality shows up, MC being there eggs her on even more. I think any content with Lene x Other girls is keeping it in the harem, and not an NTR. I wouldn't want any other redheads getting close to the main girls tho.
 
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