VN Ren'Py SnowStorm [v0.10 WW] [GleenX Studio]

[Zariaswell]

Is there a way to get Astrja and Mathilda ? Or is it the purpose of the "important choice" ?

 

[WarriorSteel]

Is there a way to get Astrja and Mathilda ? Or is it the purpose of the "important choice" ?

There isn't

 

[turbojoe]

Is there a way to get Astrja and Mathilda ? Or is it the purpose of the "important choice" ?

Not really an important choice - these 2 are like cat and dog, they follow completely different pathes.
Anyway I don´t see many chances for a throuple in SnowStorm - eventually Astrja + Astrid may happen later on.

 

[Zariaswell]

Not really an important choice - these 2 are like cat and dog, they follow completely different pathes.
Anyway I don´t see many chances for a throuple in SnowStorm - eventually Astrja + Astrid may happen later on.

I wasn't clear. I meant, in the last update is it possible to have the scene with Astrja and the scene with Mathilda in the same playthrough ?

 

[MiltonPowers]

I wasn't clear. I meant, in the last update is it possible to have the scene with Astrja and the scene with Mathilda in the same playthrough ?

Not without cheating.

 

[BenMeiffert]

Not really an important choice - these 2 are like cat and dog, they follow completely different pathes.
Anyway I don´t see many chances for a throuple in SnowStorm - eventually Astrja + Astrid may happen later on.

Maybe be not throuples but multi relationships

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[FunFuntomes]

Maybe be not throuples but multi relationships

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I still hope for Astrja+Sonja+Lizgard

 

[brayet]

I have just played wth the ravens when I saw a cowgirl.... is there anything similar with the other clans?

 

[Elduriel]

I have just played wth the ravens when I saw a cowgirl.... is there anything similar with the other clans?

iirc she is in the ravens and also the bears path, don't recall her in the wolves one (but I could be mistaken)

 

[NewTricks]

I have just played wth the ravens when I saw a cowgirl.... is there anything similar with the other clans?

Are you talking about Milka? She is one of the Ravens but she can be encountered as a side character in the Bloody Bears run because you can have a side romance with one of the Raven girls. None of the other tribes have something like that and the Ravens with extraordinary characteristics are explained later in the story.

 

[FunFuntomes]

Are you talking about Milka? She is one of the Ravens but she can be encountered as a side character in the Bloody Bears run because you can have a side romance with one of the Raven girls. None of the other tribes have something like that and the Ravens with extraordinary characteristics are explained later in the story.

technically the wolves have gertrude but we might never find out if her milk is good or not

 

[estrada777]

Scene with Sonja before the tournement is missed out too so the walkthrough ends up losing both Yrsa and Sonja

You'll have to give me more to go on.

 

[NewTricks]

technically the wolves have gertrude but we might never find out if her milk is good or not

True enough. Especially if she gets murdered by Astraja for whatever was in that bottle.

 

[MiltonPowers]

True enough. Especially if she gets murdered by Astraja for whatever was in that bottle.

It was sour milk. If she can't provide anymore. She's no use to anyone.

 

[estrada777]

So there's no highlighting of text for the Sonja scene before the tournement. I just happened to try all the options hence finding it.
I guess the walkthrough has a specific route it's taking, which is a bit confusing as the game has so many different routes so it threw me when the walkthrough takes you off the Yrsa path, then off the Sonja path.

I've tried to highlight the choices that give points, and in any spot where there aren't clear points given I let the user decide. If you can provide specific dialogue I can search the code and see if maybe I missed one.

 

[Warscared]

I've tried to highlight the choices that give points, and in any spot where there aren't clear points given I let the user decide. If you can provide specific dialogue I can search the code and see if maybe I missed one.

just remember the choices are combined!
that means that you must do 3 right out of 5 to stay in the girls path!
but due to previous choices or the order you choose to do the daily events
some scenarios you only got 4 choices or even just 3 choices!
the order is further important cause for some choices you must have the stats!
but if you did not visit the cave with Yrsa even if you have no interest in her
your dex stats will suck ass, the same for Sonjia 2nd training day in regards to strenght!
which will funel you into specific paths, that was actually the original plan but...
better to make it simpler or dumbdumbs would get confused! thus 4 girls get cut from every path!
how i miss my intelectual Bloodybear... that was the perfect build, end of week 2 i had 19 inteligence
15 strenght and 14 dexterity, i would get to 15 dexterity on the heist and then gleen cut my legs off!

 

[Sylaann]

Hi, I'm wonderring, what happens to Helga if we aren't siding with Candrid? I didn't finish the Raven ending but in the wolf one Lizgard told me they were leaving.
If I go with Yrsa at the end of the Bloody Bears quest does it means I abandon Helga and leave forever with the Dark Ravens?

 

[WarriorSteel]

Hi, I'm wonderring, what happens to Helga if we aren't siding with Candrid? I didn't finish the Raven ending but in the wolf one Lizgard told me they were leaving.
If I go with Yrsa at the end of the Bloody Bears quest does it means I abandon Helga and leave forever with the Dark Ravens?

Yes, if you leave, you abandon her.

 

[GleenXstudio]

I'll take a few random Q&A today

Helga and Randi's outcome will be shortly portrayed in the next update, btw.

Spoiler: Helga & Randi

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again another logic fail though.
if something is a Viking's its Theirs until they're dead or willingly part with it via sale or barter/trade.
because they will kill you for trying to take it. might makes right and all that.
yrsa left not even understanding she was going to live in a cave with a bunch of other people.
with Nox's fleeing to the hidden city, none of them know where they will reside.
the You lose all your stuff if you leave the clan translates to - its not your stuff, you get to use it.
that whole you will own nothing and be happy bullshyte.

that is definitely not the impression you get about vikings.
Thorsten's greed got him killed, if none of it was really his..... he is retarded, not blinded by greed.

Not sure to understand your point
Randi is not Yrsa's thrall nor property.
When Yrsa leaves to join Nox, it's more like she flees to join her, to stay close to her daughter, because she has more trust on Nox than on what is left of the BB. At that point she doesn't care about her future lifestyle (she is not a materialist girl, she could be richer but never really bothered to), she took all what she could, and abandoned the rest.
Only Ravens' style of life is special and obviously weird/uncommon for vikings. (but maybe some few tribes did live like this, who knows, who can prove the contrary?) Whatever the historical accuracy, in SnowStorm story, it's like this with Dark Ravens.
I don't know why you assumed it was like this for the other clans as well. For BB and WW, it's working the viking way. What's theirs is theirs. It has been portrayed like this from the start I believe.

Agreed. I don't really like the way Vikings are portrayed in this VN and I've kind of put it in my headcanon that this isn't real history but some kind of twisted alternate reality. I complained a little in the first few updates but just gave up and decided to take the ride. I figured that if I could get through the History Channel's Vikings show I can survive this one. The Vikings didn't function like this and some of the mythology is even inconsistent. Kind of like the Egyptian mythology from the first game that gave my friend the Egyptologist conniption fits. I've made my peace with it even though I roll my eyes every so often. Kind of like Candrid being a virgin even though she fit that huge golden goblet up her ass.

Like I said many times, it's a fantasy game, not a history game. If it was the later, almost no one would play it, starting from the outfits and the clean looks. People should not forget it's an AVN.
Inconsistency is when people complain about some historical inaccuracies, but find time travel through portals and shining axes totally normal...
SnowStorm is just using the Viking and Norse lore, but is nowhere close to a teaching material or some history book. I thought it was obvious, but I guess I have to do a reminder again
But isn't mythology just assumption and interpretation of few old books and poems? And there are as many interpretations as historians/readers/mythologists. Saying it's inconsistent, well... I totally agree. And I would add : like most of what you read about mythology anyway . What is the truth there?
PS : This is not directed to you Newtricks (I know you gave up on this long time ago^^). It's just a general warning to people who expects SnowStorm to provide an exact approach of Viking's life. If even TV shows that did not have the need to make it sexy, were not even close to portray it, there are no chances that an AVN could do it, that's utopia

Had the same problems doing a solo Astrja run. So I removed gallery mod (to make sure that wasn't problem), went back to start and did a speed run. Had to check, cause there has been nothing sexual forced at all and suddenly there is. It didn't make sense.

The Lizgard scene appears to be coding/linking error. After leaving Astrid it should jump to scene (chap5ww4n) instead it's jumping to (chap5ww5). The good news is it doesn't to appear to effect your path (apart from giving Liz a point). The story continues like it didn't happen (so far).

The Astrid one is a bit weirder. But I still suspect it's coding. There should have been a different scene if you didn't get the HJ from Astrid. But I can't find a scene that should be playing instead. Maybe it was accidently left out. Maybe someone with better skills than me (I'm purely an amateur with no coding skills at all) can find it. But, it also appears that after that scene, the path goes back to didn't happen (again, so far).

There was a lot of stuff that worked if you were doing a manwhore run, but on solo paths it was just way off.

Thank for the reports. The "failure" paths probably have to be tested more thoroughly next time, it seems to contain some errors like the lizgard one you mentioned. It's true that I pay less attention to these scenarios. It's on the to do list for the next beta testing session .

Note that I won't adapt the game to what 'cheats' and 'mods' can allow, it's already complicated enough. Like having 0 points with some girls (as I sometimes read here) is not possible unless you played with stats, and thus obviously, the outcome might be inconsistent because it was not considered in the code).
Most of the bug reports I get are due to using the mods in ways that are not reachable in-game, so just a little reminder to check this point before reporting . Not saying it's the mod fault's here, though, It's very possible that I missed one or two conditions to prevent the scene to continue when low affinity, especially on scenes that are common to two different clans as it makes the coding very touchy. I'll check that on due time .

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Spoiler: Important note about paths

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[MiltonPowers]

I'll take a few random Q&A today

Helga and Randi's outcome will be shortly portrayed in the next update, btw.

Spoiler: Helga & Randi

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Not sure to understand your point
Randi is not Yrsa's thrall nor property.
When Yrsa leaves to join Nox, it's more like she flees to join her, to stay close to her daughter, because she has more trust on Nox than on what is left of the BB. At that point she doesn't care about her future lifestyle (she is not a materialist girl, she could be richer but never really bothered to), she took all what she could, and abandoned the rest.
Only Ravens' style of life is special and obviously weird/uncommon for vikings. (but maybe some few tribes did live like this, who knows, who can prove the contrary?) Whatever the historical accuracy, in SnowStorm story, it's like this with Dark Ravens.
I don't know why you assumed it was like this for the other clans as well. For BB and WW, it's working the viking way. What's theirs is theirs. It has been portrayed like this from the start I believe.


Like I said many times, it's a fantasy game, not a history game. If it was the later, almost no one would play it, starting from the outfits and the clean looks. People should not forget it's an AVN.
Inconsistency is when people complain about some historical inaccuracies, but find time travel through portals and shining axes totally normal...
SnowStorm is just using the Viking and Norse lore, but is nowhere close to a teaching material or some history book. I thought it was obvious, but I guess I have to do a reminder again
But isn't mythology just assumption and interpretation of few old books and poems? And there are as many interpretations as historians/readers/mythologists. Saying it's inconsistent, well... I totally agree. And I would add : like most of what you read about mythology anyway . What is the truth there?
PS : This is not directed to you Newtricks (I know you gave up on this long time ago^^). It's just a general warning to people who expects SnowStorm to provide an exact approach of Viking's life. If even TV shows that did not have the need to make it sexy, were not even close to portray it, there are no chances that an AVN could do it, that's utopia


Thank for the reports. The "failure" paths probably have to be tested more thoroughly next time, it seems to contain some errors like the lizgard one you mentioned. It's true that I pay less attention to these scenarios. It's on the to do list for the next beta testing session .

Note that I won't adapt the game to what 'cheats' and 'mods' can allow, it's already complicated enough. Like having 0 points with some girls (as I sometimes read here) is not possible unless you played with stats, and thus obviously, the outcome might be inconsistent because it was not considered in the code).
Most of the bug reports I get are due to using the mods in ways that are not reachable in-game, so just a little reminder to check this point before reporting . Not saying it's the mod fault's here, though, It's very possible that I missed one or two conditions to prevent the scene to continue when low affinity, especially on scenes that are common to two different clans as it makes the coding very touchy. I'll check that on due time .

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Spoiler: Important note about paths

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Thanks for your response GleenXStudio, and willingness to communicate with players. Just one further point to my comments. I don't use mods, so the issues I received were based on the original paths. Thanks for the game, it's really awesome.