So Incest.....

patchs87

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So incest is pretty common thing in a bunch of porn games..... is it because you needed an excuse to have men and women living together? Or is there another reason?

Why I myself do not like it in porn game.... it is not a disqualify feature..... I just kinda wish it was not so common in porn games
 

kytee

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Bruh, I could come up with a million reasons why a man and a woman have to live together, why would I need them to be siblings for it to make sense? It's just hot, okay? I just want to experience fucking my fake pretend blood sister and mother without hearing the word "step" thrown in there every few words for legality's sake. As for why there's so much of it, tough luck dude. There's just too many degenerates like me with good taste out there ;)
 

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I would say that it is a matter of supply and demand. I think on the developer's side, in 80% of cases incest is a cheap trick to get patrons.
I know there's a lot of competition between incest games, so incest alone doesn't automatically mean thousands of dollars a month, but there's a lot of demand for this fetish, so incest is the easiest way to get some extra money, or at least a little money in the case of games that have nothing else to offer.
Even if someone creates another game where MC's father dies and MC moves into the house with his "landlady" and two "roommates" , he always gets at least a few patrons, even if there is no story at all and not a single original idea.
I'm not complaining, it's just my honest opinion about most incest games. Although I don't like incest games, I can still choose from many other games and VNs to play, so I'm happy.

And I find Patreon's crusade against incest games ridiculous. I support the right of developers to make such games because I don't think fictional stories involving incest are a major threat to humanity. :)

I don't understand why there is such a big demand for incest, but it doesn't bother me much. I think trying to understand other people's fetishes is pointless.
 
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ihl86

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I think it's the whole idea of it being taboo. The forbidden is always alluring, exciting.
While, if done right, an incest game could be interesting for me, most of them are just meh, because there is no effort put into the story.
I think most people like taboo stuff but some don't like incest because it's a turn-off for them.
For myself, if you replace the incest story with another taboo/forbidden relationship (properly written) I am very happy, if not, incest is an easy way to get that feeling.
 

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mostly it's about power play and forbidden love/lust. and access. it does help that everyone lives under the same roof. but no one is gonna make their story about incest just to put them under the same roof.

it's rarely about incest itself, most of us are disgusted by sexual thoughts about our real relatives. but the characters are not your relatives, and I don't mean that in the 'pixels can't be fucked' way.

the disgust we feel about incest is a result of biological imprinting you get at 1-3 years old, and it only exists for your real family. sometimes adopted people never got that imprintation, and later in life meet their mom or siblings and they end up fucking because the disgust simply isn't there. of course the social stigma is still there, but if you put those people into a situation where "who's gonna know? I'm not telling if you're not telling", stuff happens between attractive people. then we get the tabloid headlines. put relatives separated at birth on a deserted island and return 5 years later, and I guarantee there's gonna be children.

but the mom in the game is not who you grew up with, so you have no imprinting for her. there can of course be other reasons to be disgusted by it, like abusive power relations. but it's not from your biological imprintation. everything else is still there, the cultural taboos of being related, having age gap, and authority gap. but not the imprinting you have for your own family. all of them obstacles for forbidden love, which just makes it hotter.

so it's not really about wanting to fuck your mom, sister or daughter. it's about power play, usurping authority, unattainable conquest, domination, degradation, even abuse fantasy. it can range from a sweet story of forbidden love to corrupting the purest love of a mother or daughter into a mindless fuck hole. it's extremely versatile, everybody knows each other already and are accessible, and have an element of 'default love' that works great at justifying things.

but the dynamic varies a lot depending on the pairing, and I think it's one of the reasons why people have strong camps over what kind of incest fantasy they like.

in a mom/son story it's usually about son pursuing the most unattainable woman possible, his own mom. an unrelated milf might be similarly out of his league, but his mom takes that unattainability a couple of levels higher. also it helps that it's the weaker party pursuing the stronger, which makes it less abusive.

when it's mom pursuing son, it's usually more about mom having feelings she doesn't want to admit but will ultimately cave into. passion, obstacle, breakthrough. it's a little more abusive, but also mitigated by the fact that we generally feel every guy scoring some pussy is a hero of his own life.

between siblings it's very neutral, there's no other obstacles creating tension except being related. no age gap, no authority gap, nothing. no inherent abuse (unless you write it in, but it doesn't come from them being related), which makes it almost vanilla.

dad/daughter usually has a similar vibe to mom pursuing son. he knows he shouldn't do it, but he will. and the daughters are invariably sweet and naive, childish, and more than a little retarded. (the sons are no einsteins either, but the mom never has to teach them how to jerk off). the daughter is similarly unattainable as mom is, but the dad has all the power in this relationship. which makes seducing the young, naive and trusting daughter like shooting fish in a barrel as far as obstacles go. the dad/daughter setting is also inherently abusive, because we don't feel the daughter being a hero of her own life by scoring some dick. so unless you lean into the abuse full on, the obstacle for the writer is to not portray dad as rapist. it's a very different dynamic from mom/son case.

daughter chasing dad makes it very different, but we rarely see that as pretty much all female protagonist games are rape simulators. most likely the daughter just gets raped by a disgusting old dad, instantly turns into a slut, and can't stop inhaling dad's old man balls. these tend to be the most abusive, and the dynamic is about being treated badly and loving it.

one more thing about trying to understand kinks you don't share. the point with many kinks related to negative behaviour is NOT how it would unfold in real life, the kink is the opposite: the fantasy is not about mom/sister/daughter being abused, developing serious mental problems, depression and killing herself because she just can't go on. the fantasy is about her LIKING that abuse. it would never happen. but the fantasy is what IF it could?
 
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I think there's also an element of voyerism to incest that many people don't seem to understand at all. they're all under the same roof, you're not supposed to peek at your mom taking a shower or sneaking into her room while she's sleeping and jerking off looking at her pussy. you're sneaking around in secrecy, the outside world can't see what's going on inside the house, but you're seeing things you shouldn't be looking at. all that screams vouyeurism, and it pairs perfectly with the incest house setting. it's difficult to even think of how an incest story could progress without voyeurism, it's that integral.
 

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I think the first porn game I played was Dating My Daughter. At first I was disgusted by the premise, even renaming it to Dating My Foster Daughter, but as I got used to the setting and played other porn games, I realized that the taboo/forbidden thing was what made it really good, once I got over that first instinct that said that this is plain wrong. Because in the end, I am not related to these fictional characters, so the real world disgust, which is there for evolutionary reasons, can be compartmentalized away when you play a porn game.
 
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I guess you need to ask, is there any other taboo fetish that is as easy and safe as incest?

You can animate a sex scene between a man and a woman and the only thing you need to do to make it incest is apply labels to the characters.

As a taboo
1. Visually it turns no one off
2. No one has to suffer
3. Has the appeal of the forbidden
 
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Some games have hotel or dorm situations, but most have inhouse stuff, doesnt bother me tho i just see hot chick getting boned
 

patchs87

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I guess you need to ask, is there any other taboo fetish that is as easy and safe as incest?

You can animate a sex scene between a man and a woman and the only thing you need to do to make it incest is apply labels to the characters.

As a taboo
1. Visually it turns no one off
2. No one has to suffer
3. Has the appeal of the forbidden
Stripper, Prostitution, Creampie, Paying a stripper to creampie her, Anal, Latina, Afirican American, Asian, Blonda, Redhead, Cheerleaders, Virgins, Love)yes can be consider a taboo), ect....
 

trusk rock

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same reason why step porn is so popular. Its forbidden hence kinda exciting.
 

ihl86

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Stripper, Prostitution, Creampie, Paying a stripper to creampie her, Anal, Latina, Afirican American, Asian, Blonda, Redhead, Cheerleaders, Virgins, Love)yes can be consider a taboo), ect....
Most of these are preferences, maybe fetishes. I would not call them taboo except prostitution but even that it's so normalized that it kind of isn't (maybe except the creampie a stripper one? I could not say where that falls under :) ).
 

ihl86

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I would actually be a lot more curious about all those furry kinks and stuff. I'm not kink shaming or anything, I just don't get it, at all. But I don't want to hijack this thread.
 

lawfullame

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I would actually be a lot more curious about all those furry kinks and stuff. I'm not kink shaming or anything, I just don't get it, at all. But I don't want to hijack this thread.
I'm wondering if anyone tried this to put all the topics that arouse a lot of emotion together. Maybe if someone created an incest Futa / trans furry NTR game, the discussion might be funny.
 

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I'm wondering if anyone tried this to put all the topics that arouse a lot of emotion together. Maybe if someone created an incest Futa / trans furry NTR game, the discussion might be funny.
I'd pay money to see that game.
 

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I'd pay money to see that game.
I would think the number of people wanting to pledge to it would be... slim.... People like games for particular kinks and fetish's. Problem with games that have to much diversity, you end up with scraps in regard of your preferred one.
 
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I would think the number of people wanting to pledge to it would be... slim.... People like games for particular kinks and fetish's. Problem with games that have to much diversity, you end up with scraps in regard of your preferred one.
I mean it like...I would pay for it just for the lulz. Just imagine if something like that was real.

Or...someone could make a looter-shooter with trans lolis with NTR involved. Same thing.