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Dessolos

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I wont even pretend to understand the save game difference on all these game making options like renpy or sandbox, for me i always try to have 3 routes, first is for the most purest route possible, second for the most corrupt then lastly somewhere in the middle, i have no issues starting one route then saving and restarting from the beginning to create a second or third route
Yeah most games I usually have a Main save , a full content save where I don't say no to anything and maybe some others depending on the game and choices. I didn't think about the sandbox part at the time if I were to do that id honestly have keep switching saves to catch up to the others and so I don't have to do all the sandbox elements at once on other saves.
 
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doccop63

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Funny how life has not slapped me in the face so far, I dont think an orgy is not Debauchery i know for fact an orgy is not Debauchery, for those who think an orgy is Debauchery when it's fact that it is not, then those people need to learn the truth, both words have a similar meaning but a different foundation, you can not change history or the meaning of things practised in the past just because it suits you
I'm afraid that, in some cases, the meanings of words Can change. I'd like to DM you my explanation because if I put it here, like I've made explanations to comments in other threads, I'll have my comments removed and I'll get a warning of suspension.
 

smarty101

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I'm afraid that, in some cases, the meanings of words Can change. I'd like to DM you my explanation because if I put it here, like I've made explanations to comments in other threads, I'll have my comments removed and I'll get a warning of suspension.
yes i agree in some cases that can happen, But 99% of the time the foundation of a word does not change, you can add to try to modify the meaning of a word but its much harder to change the foundation of a word
 

Rehwyn

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Dean is a separate case, because his story path included blackmail, which some people might see as similar to rape. I understand that this could really upset some players. Even though his path turns out to be very different from what it first seems, I still decided to give players the option to limit it.
I appreciate that, because blackmail and coerced sex does sit poorly with me. I prefer my FMC to enter debauchery mostly of her own free will. ;)
 
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Fooxied Hi honey. I just want to rant a little bit about something, because it might be because I can't mentally handle the fact that something I've been playing this game and thinking that it would be better if it actually happened, or something I've been really dreaming about, is a little bit broken. In the last update, our husband went to the house of the old man who is our neighbor. During the cleaning process, our husband let the old man stare at us. He is aware of the events. I wish that our moments and memories with the old man (Richard) had been a little bit hidden and that we had secretly opened our bodies to him, sometimes touching, sometimes fingering, sometimes sexual, sometimes corrupting with other things and even going a little bit further and having to submit to Richard because of our need for money and our husband didn't know about it. Actually, I really wanted the sex scenes and content with the principal at school to be a little bit with Richard, but I think this way the husband will know everything and it won't be a secret. Also, I think Mister X is our next door neighbor Richard :D I was wrong about this, I thought it would be one of the kids at school.
 

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Yeah most games I usually have a Main save , a full content save where I don't say no to anything and maybe some others depending on the game and choices. I didn't think about the sandbox part at the time if I were to do that id honestly have keep switching saves to catch up to the others and so I don't have to do all the sandbox elements at once on other saves.
Are we talking sandbox like this where you have to show up to certain spots to trigger events, or more like Midnight Paradise where a lot of sandbox content was not part of the main story at all. MP I think half my saves I didn't bother with any of the activities that weren't required since I already had that content available in at least one save.

Some of these games have far more choices than I want to bother with, and it really complicates development and slows down releases. Devs have to go back and rework earlier chapters, breaking saves, because there are too many choices and they backed themselves into a corner. Or the story becomes inconcistent because the dev didn't think anyone would choose x and z. Or bugs become more frequent, or scenes require too many variations of a render. I'd rather get a decent story with a lesser number of choices than the 29,000 different combinations of love interests and harem members in Tales From The Unending Void.
 

Dessolos

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Are we talking sandbox like this where you have to show up to certain spots to trigger events, or more like Midnight Paradise where a lot of sandbox content was not part of the main story at all. MP I think half my saves I didn't bother with any of the activities that weren't required since I already had that content available in at least one save.

Some of these games have far more choices than I want to bother with, and it really complicates development and slows down releases. Devs have to go back and rework earlier chapters, breaking saves, because there are too many choices and they backed themselves into a corner. Or the story becomes inconcistent because the dev didn't think anyone would choose x and z. Or bugs become more frequent, or scenes require too many variations of a render. I'd rather get a decent story with a lesser number of choices than the 29,000 different combinations of love interests and harem members in Tales From The Unending Void.
any Sandbox doesn't matter never played the games you mentioned tho
 

capone32423

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на андроиде до сих пор нет возможности пройти танец на пилоне? (может кто-нибудь выложить видео последнего уровня танцев?))
 

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Also, I think Mister X is our next door neighbor Richard :D I was wrong about this, I thought it would be one of the kids at school.
I think Richard is the obvious choice for Mr X but I do have a thought that he may not be.

Putting on my conspiracy goggles here:
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Johan_0000

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I understand what Fooxied wants to achieve with Riley, I'm not going to fight with a Dev's view because this is their game, and they have to see come to fruition the product that they envisioned, not what we or other players want.
I agree to disagree, bc one doesnt mean the other can't be. I mean that's why paths exist. That's why some games have multiple endings. There is always 1 ending that is the one that the dev originally envisioned for the game. Then there are others, maybe requested by the fanbase (who support the dev let's mention it again, like you who originally enjoyed the game and bought it on steam bc you liked the Ivy path/possible lesbian path. A bit like me I remember being able to refuse whatever advances came to us up'till 0.3.1).
The game's called Steps of debauchery, why can't I stop at the step I want? Why do I have to go down all the way, even moreso why do I have to go down the steps with Elijah or the old man. Why not by being a mistress, exploring bdsm, exploring her exhibitionism kink to the fullest, her lesbianism... ANyway, you got me plenty of ways to explore "debauchery" without needing to necessarily involve certain characters.
I mean yeah making paths require more work, organization and professionalism. But it's certainly worth it bc more get to enjoy your work and maybe even support it.

ANyway, that's how I see things, for me renpy AVNs are specialy they are not like kinetic story. In renpy AVNs the community rly matters and the project is often not only the dev's baby but also the community's. It's smt they share. I alrdy find that all the artist, animators... who have sub sources of incomes are close to their community but renpy AVN are another lvl due to their adptable capability. OFC, devs have the biggest say in it but I doubt many of them would be capabable of providing high quality work if not for their supporters.


Anyway, my game's downloaded, gotta go, enjoy









THX
 
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