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PeopleCallMeSmile

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To be honest, I think that while I appreciate and like larger sizes and some girls can really pull them off well, Mila would actually look better with a smaller size. At least to me.
You're not wrong, I mean, have you seen her before look? She was so top, and her personality was kinda different too if I remember correctly; Ocean just took a bad decision to make her more "attractive" rather than just making a few changes like in Bella's case. Nope, didn't liked that change, sorry for the ones that liked her new character but to me she was better before the remake.
 
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Apparently Patreon banning him took some toll and he has to postpone Dec release to Feb(possibly). You can read the whole post on his Subscribestar
Some of you really love to be scammed if you believe anything from this guy. There are many other tits around and some stories that actually make sense for you to be stuck with someone who is just playing with the money of a lot of people. Patreon did the right thing. I think they know better.
 
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Because not just his both of his accounts on patreon are nuked, he's banned as person from patreon. If he would just open a new account he would just be kicked out again - sooner than later.

Until today Ocean has never gotten any reason why his WIAB patreon got the axe, all we - and he - can do is to speculate, assume assumings, and create possible conspiracy theory's. And in terms of his SG patreon, the support straight up ignores him - beside the statement that he's banned as person. In short, he counts as persona non grata there.
Find something else to do, bro. You’re going way too deep into stories about this dude. Imagine the amount of time you’ve spent just on this — wouldn’t it be better to spend it on something else? lol.

I often watch TV and see cases where a woman had most of her savings stolen by a “lover,” and then later finds out the guy wasn’t anything she thought he was. He was just scamming her, taking her money, and they eventually discover he did the same thing to a bunch of other women. And you ask yourself, “How did they fall for it?” Then I come online to a forum, see comments like yours and other “fans,” and I understand why.

This guy never completed a VN. He has two that go nowhere in the story. It’s been at least eight years, and he’s been living off two unfinished “projects” that never move anywhere. Every update every two years adds like 30 minutes or less of gameplay, and you all still don’t understand what’s happening. A long time ago, I understood what his intentions were, and I even muted posts about his games because I didn’t want to get scammed. But some people spend day and night here replying to every post as if it’s their full-time job lol.

The police and Patreon are wrong — he’s the one you should trust.
 

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100% my favorite version too. By far. I liked the character a lot more back then, partly because the model actually looked natural instead of the aberration currently in the game.
Yeah man, me too. She was naturally beautiful, face and body. Some LI didn't need change like her.
But anyway, now we just have to accept this little monstrosity.:p:LOL:
 
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100% my favorite version too. By far. I liked the character a lot more back then, partly because the model actually looked natural instead of the aberration currently in the game.


I think it's the other way around. "Fatness", as far as I know, is determined by one's BMI which indicates the amount of body fat according to age, height and weight.

The curious thing about BMI is that skinny-looking people can actually be "fat" but no fat-looking person is ever gonna be considered "lean" by BMI standards unless they are ripped. I don't think the love handles on Mila's body are made up of muscle, bud...sorry to burst that bubble :p

I get what you're trying to say, that that particular distribution of fatty tissue is attractive to you. You do you, there is nothing wrong with that. But the fact that she is by any scientific standards, fat, is factual. Regardless of what your eyes or personal taste may say ;)
tbh, bmi is an outdated and inaccurate methodology and is not really considered an end all be all indicator of obesity anymore, especially since muscle weighs much more than fat and bmi doesn't account for that all too well. that's why when i was still an athlete, my bmi was higher than a legitimately fat person with much less muscle underneath it. idk, make it make sense. xD

there's no bubble to burst since love handles are in no universe made from muscle.. xD

regardless of my personal taste, and i'm by no means a scientist... i have devoted a big chunk of my life to sports and have been fat, fit, built like a brick and lean and i can tell you that she would not be called fat in any realistic environment.
yes, her tits are fat and her ass is deliciously huge, but her stomach is flat and everything else is as proportionate as it can be. if she were real, yeah, nah, not fat at all.
it IS very easy to say fat, tho, even if it's not the right descriptor. haters gonna hate, idk.

i will however digress and say that there's a thin line between fat and obese most of the time...
 
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and i can tell you that she would not be called fat in any realistic environment.
That's because she wouldn't exist in any "realistic environment". Which is precisely my point. :p

But anyways I've taken enough jabs at Brienne of Tart for one day. We'll resume this when more previews of her (neverending frame) come out.
 
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That's because she wouldn't exist in any "realistic environment". Which is precisely my point. :p

But anyways I've taken enough jabs at Brienne of Tart for one day. We'll resume this when more previews of her (neverending frame) come out.
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THAT's your takeaway from that tldr wall of text i spent 2 minutes fucking writing?!?!?
you BASTARD!

.. i did also have a paragraph about how we're talking about pixels. luscious pixels, but still. shoulda left it in.. might've gotten a BETTER RESPONSE! pff.

you're on thin ice! and i'm only putting up with this abhorrent behavior because we share a Maja obsession!! pfff
 
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Some of you really love to be scammed if you believe anything from this guy. There are many other tits around and some stories that actually make sense for you to be stuck with someone who is just playing with the money of a lot of people. Patreon did the right thing. I think they know better.
Find something else to do, bro. You’re going way too deep into stories about this dude. Imagine the amount of time you’ve spent just on this — wouldn’t it be better to spend it on something else? lol.

I often watch TV and see cases where a woman had most of her savings stolen by a “lover,” and then later finds out the guy wasn’t anything she thought he was. He was just scamming her, taking her money, and they eventually discover he did the same thing to a bunch of other women. And you ask yourself, “How did they fall for it?” Then I come online to a forum, see comments like yours and other “fans,” and I understand why.

This guy never completed a VN. He has two that go nowhere in the story. It’s been at least eight years, and he’s been living off two unfinished “projects” that never move anywhere. Every update every two years adds like 30 minutes or less of gameplay, and you all still don’t understand what’s happening. A long time ago, I understood what his intentions were, and I even muted posts about his games because I didn’t want to get scammed. But some people spend day and night here replying to every post as if it’s their full-time job lol.

The police and Patreon are wrong — he’s the one you should trust.
Remind me please, who are you and why are you still here?

Considering your postings, here in this thread since march, not me but are the one who is possessed by this game. If come to the decision that something is not worth it,I would leave and move on and not stay to spew bullshit.
 

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Find something else to do, bro. You’re going way too deep into stories about this dude. Imagine the amount of time you’ve spent just on this — wouldn’t it be better to spend it on something else? lol.

I often watch TV and see cases where a woman had most of her savings stolen by a “lover,” and then later finds out the guy wasn’t anything she thought he was. He was just scamming her, taking her money, and they eventually discover he did the same thing to a bunch of other women. And you ask yourself, “How did they fall for it?” Then I come online to a forum, see comments like yours and other “fans,” and I understand why.

This guy never completed a VN. He has two that go nowhere in the story. It’s been at least eight years, and he’s been living off two unfinished “projects” that never move anywhere. Every update every two years adds like 30 minutes or less of gameplay, and you all still don’t understand what’s happening. A long time ago, I understood what his intentions were, and I even muted posts about his games because I didn’t want to get scammed. But some people spend day and night here replying to every post as if it’s their full-time job lol.

The police and Patreon are wrong — he’s the one you should trust.

That's how scammers get you. Another way scammers get you, they even do such a good job and then close up shop and eventually re-open under a different name to scam again. I'll give you an example. This was a little over 10 years ago. My mom had used a snow removal company for one winter. She told me they did a good job and kept them for the next year. The following year he wanted cash up front instead of a check. I told my mom that was sketchy. I didn't argue with her because she was going through chemo at the time. She was really sick from chemo. I probably should have put my foot down because the guy did not show up anymore and disconnected his phone lines. I am more upset with myself because I should have dealt with this because my mom was too weak and sick from the chemo and I didn't want to argue with. I should have. I also I did some digging I found this guy was using different company names. This guy scammed a ton of people, including someone else I knew.

Same goes for podcasters, influencers, etc..... diet, fitness, politics, etc.... They don't give a flying fuck about you. They are grifters who only care about their wallets.

That's why I hate Patreon and I am firm believer of paying for a COMPLETED project. AVNs are getting AAA development time. Let that sink in.

But people fall for it and make excuses for scammers all the time.
 
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That's how scammers get you. Another way scammers get you, they even do such a good job and then close up shop and eventually re-open under a different name to scam again. I'll give you an example. This was a little over 10 years ago. My mom had used a snow removal company for one winter. She told me they did a good job and kept them for the next year. The following year he wanted cash up front instead of a check. I told my mom that was sketchy. I didn't argue with her because she was going through chemo at the time. She was really sick from chemo. I probably should have put my foot down because the guy did not show up anymore and disconnected his phone lines. I am more upset with myself because I should have dealt with this because my mom was too weak and sick from the chemo and I didn't want to argue with. I should have. I also I did some digging I found this guy was using different company names. This guy scammed a ton of people, including someone else I knew.

Same goes for podcasters, influencers, etc..... diet, fitness, politics, etc.... They don't give a flying fuck about you. They are grifters who only care about their wallets.

That's why I hate Patreon and I am firm believer of paying for a COMPLETED project. AVNs are getting AAA development time. Let that sink in.

But people fall for it and make excuses for scammers all the time.
You’re hating Patreon for the wrong reason. Patreon was never about supporting projects; it has always been about supporting creators. If someone subscribes expecting guaranteed deliveries, they’re using Patreon in a way it was never meant to be used.

The whole idea behind Patreon is similar to traditional art patronage: you support the artist so they have the means to create, not because they promised a finished product. If you don’t want to be a patron, that’s perfectly fine, Patreon simply isn’t the right platform for you. But blaming Patreon for something that was never its purpose doesn’t make much sense.
 
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You’re hating Patreon for the wrong reason. Patreon was never about supporting projects; it has always been about supporting creators. If someone subscribes expecting guaranteed deliveries, they’re using Patreon in a way it was never meant to be used.

The whole idea behind Patreon is similar to traditional art patronage: you support the artist so they have the means to create, not because they promised a finished product. If you don’t want to be a patron, that’s perfectly fine, Patreon simply isn’t the right platform for you. But blaming Patreon for something that was never its purpose doesn’t make much sense.
I don’t have an issue with Patreon as a site, I have an issue with how the system is used. My dislike is for the "creators" who milk that system. Even under your definition, "you support the artist so they have the means to create, not because they promised a finished product", in practice, most of these creators are still pitching what they’re doing as if a product is coming. Otherwise, why would strangers on the internet give them money in the first place?

You’re sending money to a person you’ve never met and have no clue if they are telling the truth, it's just on the basis of promises you have no way to enforce. People here should blindly support everyone on the internet, just for the privilege of believing in them? At that point, you might as well hand that money to a homeless person.

There are plenty of "creators" who are very consistent about taking money, and the only thing they reliably produce are excuses.
 
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