- Jul 25, 2017
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Nope, nothing between the mother and daughter. DC already said something like this on stream irc.
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Oh, i didn't said "Sexually" ^^
But with consequences, when she catch you, or something like it should happen when you choose to corrupt Mia's mother ?
- Jun 19, 2017
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Well, DC usually doesn't spoiler such details, so we don't really know yet. But the overall tendency in recent updates is to have less choice and thus less consequences. Those kind of things don't really go down well with many players and DC seems to adapt to that demand - sadly. So I personally wouldn't expect too much.
- Apr 16, 2017
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Except, that's not the case, we've gone over this quite a few times in the last 10 pages, and
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ok i got the hair mod to work don't know what i did but it's work in parts lol
- May 16, 2017
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Why in the world would you give one single hot shit? Patreon is literally people donating money to him. It's not a budget, it's not an advance against royalties, or anything like that. It's not a development fund. It is literally people giving him money because they like what he does, and rolled into that is being down with how he does it.
I don't care that he has zero accountability or incentive, beyond his own creative impulses. I hope he takes the money and buys a super practical Ferrari.
OH. MY. GOD. This is proof that I am not the only person alive who thinks this way. Someone who understands what artistic Patronage actually means! I mean, so many people whining about someone else's paycheck that they EARNED. I was taught you never worry about the next man's wallet, just go out and get your own.
- Jun 5, 2018
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Jenny is my favorite character tbh and I love her new face so im hyped as fuck
- Jun 18, 2017
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and it will be repeated again,and again,and again and again(just like that old advertisement about some batteries),probably until this game gets finally finished
True, until the game doesnt get made because the arse falls out of the patreon base.
You think he'll work forever no money? theres a fine line between no accountability and no income no product.
How many patreon games have died on the backend of burnout and lack of funding?
You hope he buys a ferarri, I hope he does too, and makes a stellar product. But if he takes forever to make it and the patreons crack it and leave, then well no product, no ferarri.
Your argument couldn't be more wrong, it is an advance, it is a budget, it is a development fund, he uses the money to fund his life, and part of that life is making this game, if no money comes in he goes back to his 9 to 5 and the game ends.
The fact the words used are tip jar is completely false and quite naive, people want to create and make good things (like this game) but without funding they are not made, plenty of great potential games have gone by the wayside without funding.
Unfortunately with patreon there are no checks and balances, and the people who make the most often out turn the least until their income base collapses, and then nothing is made.
Heres a deal, based upon the number of theoretical updates and just how long they are taking to make, how long do you think this development of the game will take?
Eve.
Main story.
Roxxy update
Dating
Eric update
Mia update
Judith and the latinos
Rhonda update.
How long do you think the patreon base will sustain this? and I assume you're not a patreon support. And I am.
- Sep 17, 2018
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He started without funding and delivered a demo with two-frame-animations. Now he has money and can take his time to re-work on them. As long as we get a good game I don't care much how long he takes. This is already one of the three best games (in this genre) I know, even now.
Oh come one. they all start without funding. As long as we get a good game I dont...... wait you want me to "personally" keep funding this? no no, I want others to fund this, but he can take his time, for art. and because it's someone else funding. wait the game stopped because the patreons left? man, that sucks, i wish that these devs wouldn't bail out of games.......sorry, just looking at your post a year from now.
- Aug 5, 2016
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@Chucked_Sandwich , his game is completely free you know. If you don't like how he works, then you can always quit on your support. I don't understand why you are so upset.
@MWeb, the game is not free, as said before. My genuine concern is if I quit my support and so does the majority of the fan base, due to poor return on patronage, then the game will never be made.
Is the game free? so the 50K this guy earns a month, that means nothing to the continued production of the game?
Hypothetical. patreon, stops tomorrow. whats the chance that 0.19 (eve) gets released?
Why did BB stop? (a game that trends higher than this). because Patreon stopped the money (had to change the game).
Every game is free on this website, whats your actual point?
Im talking about patrons not paying money to continue the game that ends up here for free.
Is the game free? so the 50K this guy earns a month, that means nothing to the continued production of the game?
Hypothetical. patreon, stops tomorrow. whats the chance that 0.19 (eve) gets released?
Why did BB stop? (a game that trends higher than this). because Patreon stopped the money (had to change the game).
Every game is free on this website, whats your actual point?
Im talking about patrons not paying money to continue the game that ends up here for free.
- Jun 24, 2017
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the difference between SS and BB is the dev interaction with the community. silver was a dickhead whereas dc actually have friendly interactions with his patrons and fans. DC has never demanded money EVER and the surge in his patrons is due to how friendly his dev is on top of how good the game is. does it need better management? yes. DC acknowledged this. this is not new information. if Patreon stops working I'm sure there is an alternative that dc can use. why not use an alternative now? this is because if it's not broken don't fix it. dc has lots of patrons on Patreon already, moving to an alternative will be inconvenient for the majority of his supporter because THEY have to sign up for a completely new site.
- Jun 19, 2017
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DC said so many times that he'll finish the game, no matter what - even if had to be part time again. And that said, it's pretty unlikely that he'll "ever" fall below a somewhat substainable sum of money. Sure, right now the game probably does indeed make "too much" money and something close to 30k would likely be more fitting. But that's certainly not DC's problem and nobody should feel pressured to pledge. Actually it's excatly the opposite in this case. If you like something, give a couple of bucks a year and the game will be fine and finished.
But I can certainly understand that DC wants to work on the game his way. In a small an trusted team and on his schedule. That's actually a far better way to prevent burnouts, than forcing him to grow the whole thing against his will - and that's specially true for a second artists. People just have to be patient. I'm personally pledging 20 to 25 bucks a year and thus I don't really care if he finishes the game in 2 or 4 years - as long as the content is great and as long as DC is working I have really no reason to doubt him.
But I can certainly understand that DC wants to work on the game his way. In a small an trusted team and on his schedule. That's actually a far better way to prevent burnouts, than forcing him to grow the whole thing against his will - and that's specially true for a second artists. People just have to be patient. I'm personally pledging 20 to 25 bucks a year and thus I don't really care if he finishes the game in 2 or 4 years - as long as the content is great and as long as DC is working I have really no reason to doubt him.
- Aug 5, 2016
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Every game is not free. Their patreon leaks here. However, developer of SS release his game publicly himself.
Prove your point then, stop your support and let's see if he is gonna become like BB. (Btw, BB is abandoned because of incest content, i don't know why you are comparing them.. 2 different story)
Everyone needs money. He need to live. He has a family. Your examples are pointless.
- May 16, 2017
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so i was right the 62 additional comments since i played last month were about people crying about the release date
i have no idea why some people are doing this and not playing other games while they wait and some people think that if they stop supporting a game developer it will doom the whole game
- Apr 16, 2017
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As others have mentioned, you really need to pay attention to how developers interact with the community they create.
Adult gaming is a small niche with a few volatile actors. Some are more stable than others. DC has been stable with his growth for the most part in allowing for free updates and free communication on the platforms he chooses. BB stopping is his own thing. I think I've played one or two games of his and IIRC, the games are good but very complex undertakings with VA and everything.
If Patrons don't get their money's worth, they move elsewhere. Simple as that. But with DC specifically, he listens to the community, gives them a vote, improves on talking to them openly, and allows for discretion in how the story branches from here.
So stop thinking about hypotheticals. Focus on the reality in front of you. So long as DC communicates well, he has Patron support. Simple as that.