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You do realize this isn't some asset rip and all the art and assets have to be hand drawn, right?

Also, considering this guy's trying to create a point-and-click style game in an engine designed for visual novels, it's probably a pain to test everything and make sure each release works.

Point being, this shit takes time, and given the small amount of staff this guy probably has, if any, and the fact that the story is not "duh, sex scene, duh", this isn't exactly a game that's going to be updated as quickly as others.

Also the fact that you're whining about the amount of money he gets from Patreon when, given the fact that you're on this forum that pretty much is just a hub for pirating porn games, you probably haven't given them a cent.

Quit being whiny and entitled and accept the fact that quality work takes time, life isn't a shitty cash grab mobile game. There are no gems to skip the wait.

(also if you think this game is mediocre, I'd hate to see your thoughts on the rest of the games on this site, yeesh)
If I reply to you and showed you evidence that I now support DC in the highest Patreon Tier, will I then be granted the coveted "superhero special ability" to criticize DC and his work? or to share some ideas(i.e progress dialogs) here without hurting peoples feelings on behalf of DarkCookie?
 

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Who can get pregnant in the game now can they all become pregnant or do I have to only choose one
You can get everyone pregnant that has pregnancy routes, you don't need to choose. Right now that's Jenny, Diane and Daisy. More coming later.
 

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Oh yes a bet seems to be something that Captain Terry would do. But I would prefer it to be a '' breasts grab '' or a '' pussy rub on '' through the outfit. Something that incited Sara's desire for MC, making her go after him, maybe culminating in a succession of bets. I love the kind of progressive story that happened to Debbie and Roxy, where the character seduces girls with little exciting events.

lol the broken condom would be interesting, but I would do it with Micoe.
Could definitely see a broken condom with Ivy, or maybe the MC could pay her extra to go raw.

Micoe already has the hots for the MC, and will have been delivering his babies with all the other girls, so I'd have her tell MC that she wants in on the action and have her own baby with him. Also maybe a threesome with the Indian doctor chick?
 

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Yes, but he didn't say that.
If he'd said "a full save for 0.18.6", I wouldn't have said anything.
Yay, technicalities.
Still, it's a little dismaying that someone can't find the two and a half hours needed to grind the stats again.
Rapping? Easy.
Muay Thai? Easy.
Strength? Easy.
Intelligence or whatever the maze gives you? Too fricking easy.
Grades? Pah. You barely even have to try for these.
Getting money? Please.
Pretty sure I'm forgetting one.
Not that those two and a half hours would have to be all at once, mind you and that's just for the stats and not for any content.
Here's the real snark. Ole boy just doesn't want to have to regrind every update. No need to get petty over full save for an incomplete game or a version. A full save for an incomplete game that arrives piecemeal still semantically makes sense. But, I'm just a lurker so I'll probably never see your response.
 
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Here's the real snark. Ole boy just doesn't want to have to regrind every update. No need to get petty over full save for an incomplete game or a version. A full save for an incomplete game that arrives piecemeal still semantically makes sense. But, I'm just a lurker so I'll probably never see your response.
No, you'll see it. Your lurker status doesn't make your response any less valid.
Perhaps I was being a little petty. I'm much calmer now. It's just that I see "Full save pl0x" everywhere I go and it's worn on my nerves quite a bit. Thanks for telling what I needed to hear without flinging insults at me. That's appreciated.
 
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I actually like the progression process, the only thing that would make it better is the reaction of npcs to your progress. Like how everyone viewed you as a wimpy loser before working out and getting that cash, after that they still view you as a wimpy loser. A little attention to details would make a ton of difference. For example, Roxxy sees you and says "Eww, don't talk to me loser" after you max out your attributes, get the fastest car, buy that house and get that bank roll. You approach her again and she says "Wow, you look different, good actually, umm don't take this as a compliment, you're still a loser. But, damn!" Something like that. To make all the work worth it. The same way, Diane reacts after you max out strength, lift your shirt up. You max out intelligence, the science teacher doesn't look at you like a retard any longer. I think it's doable on Darkcookie's part since there isn't any extra art to do, just extra text/sentences to work with.
Goodness, will you just chill for a minute? You just made a load of suppositions.
Never suggested it's an art rip or asked for more art. Suggested flavor text and nought else. Ren'Py is known for deprecating pieces of code - which still remain usable - but I can't see how adding one or two lines per character would actually slow DC down that much.
No shit that it takes time. How obvious a statement to make.
Lucy reacted to Tristrix, not you. Stay out of arguments that don't concern you. Yes, I realise the irony in this statement.

I'll only say this once more: All she asked for was some reaction flavor text, nothing more. All the characters' facial expressions exist in the code and art files. No new art needed. We're getting off-topic her and should stop now. All hated arguments should taken in private so we CAN keep on topic.

srksrk 68 Is there any real need to be so snarky?

I'll not belabour things any further. Weird how it spiralled out of control like this. If you're going to argue with me, don't. I won't pay any attention to it. This thread just approached Sulphuric Acid levels of causticity, which I don't want to see on the thread for a game of this calibre.
OK guys, even though you managed to put your request in the least polite way possible (no insult intended), you have been heard. Some things were bothereing me as well, so I decided to give i a try and make a small mod ;)

Just put the attached file MeaningfulStats.rpy into the game\scripts directory and see how your stats (strength, dexterity) have an effect on dialogs with Cedric, Kevin, Coach Bridget, Ronda, Master Somrak and Dexter. To uninstall, just remove the file (and the created MeaningfulStats.rpyc file as well).

However, even this little thing took some hours to make, and I only considered less important characters. Do not expect me to do the same for Roxxy, Jenny or other main characters, or to work on different poses. But you might consider that there are already many places in game where MC's stats have a noticable impact on dialog as well as story.

But I think that mod is an improvement, and it can easily be extended. If you find it useful, I might as well include it into the .

Could definitely see a broken condom with Ivy
:whistle: does this for you :cool:
 

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In fairness to those that mentioned stuff along the lines of alternate flavor reaction/comments/etc from various NPC's, the thing defenders of DC's ~4-6month release rates always trot out is "DC hand draws all the art assets, that shit takes time, yo!"

Okay, fair enough.

But that implies the development bottleneck is the art assets. If that is the case, then there should be unused development time for others on the team while they wait for the art assets.

You can make an arguement that the rest of the development team is too busy in the 4-6month turn around time with non-art related tasks to add flavor text, but then you cant claim the bottleneck is the art.

It's one or the other.
 

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In fairness to those that mentioned stuff along the lines of alternate flavor reaction/comments/etc from various NPC's, the thing defenders of DC's ~4-6month release rates always trot out is "DC hand draws all the art assets, that shit takes time, yo!"

Okay, fair enough.

But that implies the development bottleneck is the art assets. If that is the case, then there should be unused development time for others on the team while they wait for the art assets.

You can make an arguement that the rest of the development team is too busy in the 4-6month turn around time with non-art related tasks to add flavor text, but then you cant claim the bottleneck is the art.

It's one or the other.
Going by the progress bars on the game's official site, it doesn't look like art is the bottleneck. From what I can tell, it seems to be the coding. Now, I have no idea if alternate flavor text is a coding issue or not but I'd imagine some coding is involved.
 

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Going by the progress bars on the game's official site, it doesn't look like art is the bottleneck. From what I can tell, it seems to be the coding. Now, I have no idea if alternate flavor text is a coding issue or not but I'd imagine some coding is involved.
To be clear: I am not saying what the bottleneck is, i'm not on the dev team, so i would be talking out of my ass. I am more commenting on those that constantly claim the art is the bottleneck.

Now, as to your comment, presuming the art *is* the bottleneck, that means coding of new scenes is probably delayed in its start until enough assets are available to do anything relevant. The bottleneck on the backend of each production cycle is probably the coding part as they process all of the new scenes, sure.

So the time to go do text updates of existing scenes, add flavor text, etc would be at the beginning of each production cycle, when DC is the hold up.

Again, this is making large assumptions that there is a team working on this and not a one man show.
 

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To be clear: I am not saying what the bottleneck is, i'm not on the dev team, so i would be talking out of my ass. I am more commenting on those that constantly claim the art is the bottleneck.

Now, as to your comment, presuming the art *is* the bottleneck, that means coding of new scenes is probably delayed in its start until enough assets are available to do anything relevant. The bottleneck on the backend of each production cycle is probably the coding part as they process all of the new scenes, sure.

So the time to go do text updates of existing scenes, add flavor text, etc would be at the beginning of each production cycle, when DC is the hold up.

Again, this is making large assumptions that there is a team working on this and not a one man show.
It's a team for sure, but I don't know what their process is. I've read a few things here an there from the lead coder on reddit who always gets a little prickly when anyone suggests how easy something should be for them.
 

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Guys can we all agree that this will never cross the finish line?
But on an side note.
Is fallout 76 better than this?
Please tell me what you think.
 

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Guys can we all agree that this will never cross the finish line?
That probably depends what you'd say the line is? Will the game get a proper ending as promised, meaning we've had a completed main story, will be able to date all schoolgirls and take them to prom? Yes. Will people complain about content that's "still missing" when DC decides to move on? Almost certainly.

Is fallout 76 better than this?
Please tell me what you think.
Haven't played it for quite some time, but my first impression really wasn't that good. It seemed way more generic than SS to me in basically ever aspect, especially for those who aren't huge fallout fans and since it's abandoned by now anyway, that question kind of answers itself, doesn't it?

Edit: I just realized that you meant the actual Fallout and not the 69 porn version. Why would you even compare those?

Just checked on Patreon, 22/42 artwork done. My mind is playing me tricks into believing that we're at a good pace.:unsure:
I'd say we are pretty much on track compared to those last updates. Neither that much quicker nor slower.
 
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Guys can we all agree that this will never cross the finish line?
But on an side note.
Is fallout 76 better than this?
Please tell me what you think.
It'll cross the finish line when funding begins to slip. At some point Patreon supporters are going to tire of waiting and they'll begin to pull their donations. That will lead to a slow, steady decline of money brought in each month that will eventually force DC to start releasing updates on a more consistent basis in an attempt to delay the inevitable. Might not quite have all the content people wanted at that point, but I expect it to finish in one way or another.
 

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Guys can we all agree that this will never cross the finish line?
But on an side note.
Is fallout 76 better than this?
Please tell me what you think.
I don't see a problem here. DC said looong time ago that even when SS is finished there will be the possibility to expand the story in the SS universe, e.g. expand the map nation or even world wide.

So, if you want, he already has announced to continue milking you indefinitly. Is that not what all the haters dream about?
 
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I don't see a problem here. DC said looong time ago that even when SS is finished there will be the possibility to expand the story in the SS universe, e.g. expand the map nation or even world wide.

So, if you want, he already has announced to continue milking you indefinitly. Is that not what all the haters dream about?
See, that's the thing. At what point do you consider the game finished? When the story about MC's dad is finished? When the dating and prom system is in place? Because there's nothing stopping them from continuing to add more content to this game for the rest of your life. I'm not sure what anyone thinks the end goal is supposed to be.
 
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