Oriandu

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We might get 0.20.5.1 late July, then 0.20.5.2 around early October. Highly doubtful we'll see the entire 0.21 on Xmas

People never vote for obvious stuff. Judith is the most whined about girl having no route > she never won a poll in ~2+ years

Speaking of Judith : since her mom is unlocked in a different route, when it'll come time for her update (in about 3 years) : will we either need to restart/unlock her mom in the other route (so locking most of Judith's stuff for a while)/DC changes it to be in Judith's and probably still need to restart ? :unsure: Same thing could happen with Annie's mom
Where does the Judith whining actually happen? There's a small subset of people who stamp their feet for it here, but by and large she is the least popular character by a country mile.
 

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The poll that Rhonda won, Judith came in second with 31% of the votes. She's not as unpopular as people think.
You are right, about 1/3 did in fact vote for Judith in that poll:
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But let's look at who won the next one:
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That's right, the last place of the 0.21 vote somehow won against the runner up from the same poll. And Judith lost numbers.

What does that tell us? Yes, she has fans (although we don't know if those are actually fans of the Latinas). But cleary not significantly enough to let her win any poll if there is real competition. So either DarkCookie just declares her the focus of an update or he puts her up against no real competition (although I'm hard pressed to think up an example... Kevin maybe?).
 

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You are right, about 1/3 did in fact vote for Judith in that poll:
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But let's look at who won the next one:
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That's right, the last place of the 0.21 vote somehow won against the runner up from the same poll. And Judith lost numbers.

What does that tell us? Yes, she has fans (although we don't know if those are actually fans of the Latinas). But cleary not significantly enough to let her win any poll if there is real competition. So either DarkCookie just declares her the focus of an update or he puts her up against no real competition (although I'm hard pressed to think up an example... Kevin maybe?).
Still 30% baby!!
 
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j4yj4m

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To be fair, polls can change quickly. The main story was dead last in many polls like 0.15. and 0.16. (except the repoll one where it was linked to the introduction of the pregnancy feature) but then jumped from 4% in 0.19. to 58% in 0.20.0. for no real reason.

Then again, it's not like there's that much competition for Judith left. If DC wants to progress the game, the next poll basically has to be between either new content for Judith or reworking existing content.
 

Badjourasmix

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To be fair, polls can change quickly. The main story was dead last in many polls like 0.15. and 0.16. (except the repoll one where it was linked to the introduction of the pregnancy feature) but then jumped from 4% in 0.19. to 58% in 0.20.0. for no real reason.

Then again, it's not like there's that much competition for Judith left. If DC wants to progress the game, the next poll basically has to be between either new content for Judith or reworking existing content.
You still have the library stuff with Jane. If it was me deciding, even though I like Judith, after Annie I would probably work on Debbie. We talked about this in this thread before, letting all the rework stuff for last is a really bad idea. Debbie has the most content from all the characters that need reworks, so it would be better to just finish it and get it out of the way. Also it looks weird the back and forth of new and old art.
 

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it's weird how erik's mom was once one of the most popular choices (i think it's why she got her update so early) but now she basically doesn't get talked about at all even though her update even back then was pretty lackluster and she's in a desperate need for an update. mia is pretty much the same story.
 

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You still have the library stuff with Jane. If it was me deciding, even though I like Judith, after Annie I would probably work on Debbie. We talked about this in this thread before, letting all the rework stuff for last is a really bad idea. Debbie has the most content from all the characters that need reworks, so it would be better to just finish it and get it out of the way. Also it looks weird the back and forth of new and old art.
Yeah, though I'd guess that he'll put content like Jane on hold for some time to focus on these things which are acutally needed to bring the game forward. In the end her content is almost completely optional.

it's weird how erik's mom was once one of the most popular choices (i think it's why she got her update so early) but now she basically doesn't get talked about at all even though her update even back then was pretty lackluster and she's in a desperate need for an update. mia is pretty much the same story.
Well, both already have some content, so it's kind of understandable that people preferred new stuff. Having said that, Mia hasn't been in any poll for almost 2 years now, so it's hard to say how popular she'd be.
 

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it's weird how erik's mom was once one of the most popular choices (i think it's why she got her update so early) but now she basically doesn't get talked about at all even though her update even back then was pretty lackluster and she's in a desperate need for an update. mia is pretty much the same story.
Compared to the early days, now you have a lot more milf type characters, and as you said, her update wasn't anything special. She is not as interesting as the new characters. I still like her but there are other characters that I am more interested in. Mia's story wasn't even about Mia for the most part. It was more about Helen and her marriage and I don't find Mia that intersting either.
 

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The poll that Rhonda won, Judith came in second with 31% of the votes. She's not as unpopular as people think.
True, but she was surpassed by Annie immediately thereafter. You also need to remember that there are fewer and fewer characters for the patreons to vote for. Her having a better score now doesn't really mean she has a following. If we include Rhonda and Annie on the list of female classmates to get content since we know they're the next two on the docket, Judith is one of three who does not have any storyline at all. Of those three two of them are presented as a package deal in the Latinas. Options are dwindling for girls from the school, so logically speaking Judith should be getting more votes.
 

Badjourasmix

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True, but she was surpassed by Annie immediately thereafter. You also need to remember that there are fewer and fewer characters for the patreons to vote for. Her having a better score now doesn't really mean she has a following. If we include Rhonda and Annie on the list of female classmates to get content since we know they're the next two on the docket, Judith is one of three who does not have any storyline at all. Of those three two of them are presented as a package deal in the Latinas. Options are dwindling for girls from the school, so logically speaking Judith should be getting more votes.
It's hard to evaluate how popular a character is, by just looking at poll results. As mentioned before Mrs Johnson seemed like she was very popular and won a poll very early on. But after that her rework even with the whole save compatibility stuff never came close to winning. Annie and Mrs Smith also looked like they were very popular, and they never came close to win a poll until now. So yeah polls can be very deceiving. The main story went from 4% in one poll to 58% in the next one. Even DC was shocked when Rhonda won her poll, she never came close to win anything before that.
 
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