Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[Badjourasmix]

Does anyone have an update on the poll results?

 

[j4yj4m]

What speaks against bringing one but banging all the girls?

I guess his point was more that there will probably be some kind of after prom sex scene which would then be exclusive to that one girl MC took.

Does anyone have an update on the poll results?

Still 54/46 against choice with now about 5500 votes.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Yeah I think linear routes won. Now lets just see if DC abides by the poll or if he decides to ignore it. If he decides to ignore it will probably be another shitshow.

 

[j4yj4m]

Yeah, this poll was pretty stupid and people will probably refer to it for years to come. On the upside I'm not sure whether Ronda and Annie would actually require a real choice, so it may take quite some time until it'll have some actual effect. I'm pretty sure that Judith's story without choice would be bad and I'd like to keep those in Mia's/Erik's story, too.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Yeah, this poll was pretty stupid and people will probably refer to it for years to come. On the upside I'm not sure whether Ronda and Annie would actually require a real choice, so it may take quite some time until it'll have some actual effect. I'm pretty sure that Judith's story without choice would be bad and I'd like to keep those in Mia's/Erik's story, too.

Yeah I like the idea of helping him get with June. Mia's story would have to be completly different if he decides to remove the branching paths. I won't say any of the stories will be bad until I play them. They will have to be very different but I don't think they will be bad. But as you said it will still take a while until he needs to work on those stories, and I have a feeling he will ignore the poll and still add the different paths.

 

[j4yj4m]

They will have to be very different but I don't think they will be bad.

I think it'll depend on how much he wants his characters to stay somewhat credible. It doesn't really make sense to mix for example Mia and Helen given their feelings towards each other (or you'll need a huuuge redemption arc for them) and it'll be even harder to mix Judith and the Latinas in a way that doesn't look like it's totally constructed. Choices just make it so much easier to write a story that makes sense and stays true to everybody's character.

 

[Badjourasmix]

I think it'll depend on how much he wants his characters to stay somewhat credible. It doesn't really make sense to mix for example Mia and Helen given their feelings towards each other (or you'll need a huuuge redemption arc for them) and it'll be even harder to mix Judith and the Latinas in a way that doesn't look like it's totally constructed. Choices just make it so much easier to write a story that makes sense and stays true to everybody's character.

I just like to wait before judging if it is bad or not. But yeah it will be very hard to make those stories credible, I agree with you.

 

[Digo099]

DC is doing very well in my opinion, there were two fetishes that I personally love in this update, pizza delivery and cuckold (although I would rather see the PC watching).
Unfortunately I'm Brazilian and it is very expensive for me to pay the patreon in our currency, but I wanted to give some "tips" to DC, I think there is a lack of sex with two men, for example now with Tony he missed the opportunity.

 

[snakeplisskin]

The new poll is exactly why I stopped being a patron. We all knew that most people want to skip everything to fap while having everything handed to them on a single Playthrough. But he put it to a poll anyway and look what happened we now will be getting linear story with no choices so people can fap.

 

[mybaby2509]

anyone can give me full save please!!

 

[Omnikuken]

^ There's 1 on the official page (without the Maria route done). Or just play the game like most of us

 

[TheGrandMasterCory]

isn't he already? i mean i recently replayed the eve route and MC spends all this time with eve, telling her how beautiful and special she is, she falls in love with him and they start dating. then MC sees her hot sister getting a naked massage so he jumps in and impregnates her, then convinces grace to keep the baby and they keep it a secret from eve. then he repeats the same process about 10 times (at least that's how it was when i played the game, i have like a dozen kids with grace by now). MC has a friendly and pure exterior but i don't see how anyone can think he isn't morally completly corrupt.

Well, this all entirely depends on both you the player and the choices you make, doesn't it?

The game doesn't force you to have sex with Odette or Grace.
The game doesn't force you to impregnate them either.
You could just reject them and stick entirely to Eve.

At the end of the day, the MC is just a culmination of the choices you the player made for him.
You can't really complain about the MC feeling like an a-hole with multiple children from multiple women when you are the one making all those choices for him.

In addition, you can't really complain about the MC having multiple girlfriends/lovers when that is literally the purpose of this entire game.
The whole point of Summertime Saga is to acquire as many lovers/girlfriends/sex-friends as possible.
Taking issue with this is like taking issue with the fact that the MC in a Pokemon game has dozens of different Pokemon.

Well, that's true and such things do happen because there are no real choices in Eve's story. There's no choice between Grace and Eve, as there should be, and that's why we'll never have a nice and gratifying Grace subplot. It's really that simple. If there's no choice the only real options are to essentially make all girls the same (likely either the Roxxy cuckoldress type or the Odette easy going type) or to cheat behind their back, like in Eve's case.

But yes, I'd still say it's more an unavoidable consquence of the game design, rather than an actual character trait of MC.

I agree that it would be interesting to be able to choose between exclusively dating Eve, exclusively dating Grace, or just dating them both at the same time.
But we have to remember that neither Grace nor Odette were intended to be primary girls.
They are the secondary girls who are "accessed" by completing Eve's storyline.

Also, it would make more sense for there to be some consequences that come with impregnating Grace and/or Odette.
But I'm sure the point of this game is to allow the MC to have all these sexual experiences free of any consequence.
That's the reason why when you finish both Eve and Roxxy's individual routes, you can go into French class in the morning, make out with Eve and then make out with Roxxy without any problems.

Lastly, in my humble opinion, all this isn't an unavoidable consequence of Summertime Saga's unique game design.
All of this is a consequence of the type of game Summertime Saga is - a soft-harem type sex game.

P.S. Hey j4yj4m, could you elaborate on what you mean when you say "the only real options are to essentially make all girls the same?" I personally am of the opinion that the many girls in this game vary impressively in terms of their personalities, backstories, and character traits.

 

[TheGrandMasterCory]

Separating her from the principal is the best option, I really don't like her character. Some characters are annoying but at least they look good, Mrs Smith doesn't have any redeeming quality.

I don't know man. She has two VERY HUGE redeeming qualities right in front of her if you know what I mean.

Yeah I would just expect to get dommed by Principal Smith for a while before getting a comeuppance, she doesn't seem like a character that realizes the error of their ways in the end.

We'll have to wait and see. Mrs. Smith route would be best if the MC has to be dommed/topped by her for a while before dominating her and turning her into his sex slave. I really don't see her becoming affectionate to the MC by any other way.

There could also be a chance that we'll get a Principal Smith/Annie route (like the Helen/Mia route) in which the MC will have to choose between the two at the end.

Mrs. Smith is interesting because she could also open up the game to some more magical/supernatural elements.
If you look closely when invading her house for the first time, I believe she has a Grimoire (a book which teaches the reader how to casts certain spells/curses and perform certain types of magic).

The MC showing off his magical powers to Erik could be a cool little scene.

 

[TheGrandMasterCory]

DC said that when he reworks Erik's story he wants to make Erik more likeable and show how good of a friend he is.

In my humble opinion, Erik is already very likable and is already shown to be a good friend.

He is always chill, always nice, always helpful.
He constantly gives the MC alcohol when needed or assistance if the MC does something for him (usually buying stuff).
Hell, he even

Spoiler: Minor Roxxy's Route Ending Spoiler - That Quick Scene With Erik

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Erik is a great character already in my opinion but I won't argue if DarkCookie insists on a rework or redesign.

 

[MasterQ]

What speaks against bringing one but banging all the girls?

You didn't understand. Bringing the girl on the prom will unlock a h-scene with her and since you can bring just one girl to the prom, you can't get all the h-scene in a single playthrough.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Well, this all entirely depends on both you the player and the choices you make, doesn't it?

The game doesn't force you to have sex with Odette or Grace.
The game doesn't force you to impregnate them either.
You could just reject them and stick entirely to Eve.

At the end of the day, the MC is just a culmination of the choices you the player made for him.
You can't really complain about the MC feeling like an a-hole with multiple children from multiple women when you are the one making all those choices for him.

In addition, you can't really complain about the MC having multiple girlfriends/lovers when that is literally the purpose of this entire game.
The whole point of Summertime Saga is to acquire as many lovers/girlfriends/sex-friends as possible.
Taking issue with this is like taking issue with the fact that the MC in a Pokemon game has dozens of different Pokemon.

That is a very good point. I think it's better to have the freedom to pursue the all the girls if you want to, without having any of the content locked out. I mean even if you decide to not have sex with Grace and odette, at that point you're already having sex with a bunch of girls including your not-mom, not-sister and not-aunt. The only way the MC doesn't come off as an asshole is if you just complete eve's story and don't have sex with any other girl in game.

 

[TheGrandMasterCory]

If you finish Tony's story, you cannot complete any other route needing pizza or lasagne takeout.

There should really be a formal warning for these kinds of things!

Edit: It seems that Geowraith may be incorrect about this. Even so, be careful with your playthroughs and keep multiple saves.

 

[Badjourasmix]

If you finish Tony's story, you cannot complete any other route needing pizza or lasagne takeout.

Not true, I played the whole game from the beginning and I finished the main story before finishing eve's story and I still was able to get the lasagna for Grace's dinner.

 

[luissegovia1]

anyone can give me full save please!!

 

[Dirty_Dan]

Been playing though this after a year or so off. Love Eve's new story. New best girl (next to Sis and Missy). I'm seeing all of the content that I missed, so I'm two timing her on this playthrough, but when the game's complete or, at least, the prom portion, I'm going to do the gentleman route because, well, how can you not with her?

Looking forward to Anne's story. She's always interested me. Hope it's as good as Eve's.