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Making the MC work endlessly at the pizza shop to pay child support to the numerous women and girls he impregnated, all while having to deal with the multiple STDs he's contracted may make for a more consequence-heavy, realistic game.
Hell, it may even make for a more impactful story, I'll grant you that.

But it probably won't make for a porn game that people feel they can, or even want to, immerse themselves in.
I wouldn't want this game to be this hyper realistic either. Too much realism makes games tedious, Red Dead Redemption 2 is a good example of this. However, I don't want every girl to ultimately boil down to the same exact thing. Its good that Jenny stays a selfish bitch and doesn't just love you at the end of her route. Its a colorful cast of wacky, but realistic characters that all serve their purpose, be that comedic, sexy or romantic. Boiling them down and making them just another pretty face that gets MCs dick wet makes it all feel a bit shallow. It just reeks of lost potential, especially since SS has pretty good writing for what it is.

I think that games that have a lot of choices and have consequences are fine, I've played my fair share of them. The thing is that this game wasn't really heavy on that kind of stuff to begin with. Erik's story for example even if you decide to go for the girl that he is interested in, the game doesn't really punish you, you bang the girl and he keeps being your friend. When I used the term "silly game" I didn't mean it in a bad way, and I don't think anyone is using it in a bad way either. I personally meant it as in, you can see that the dev is just having fun with the characters and isn't taking things too seriously. All the characters are very stereotypical, look at tony for example, he is italian looks like super Mario and has a brother named Luigi. And all the stories are very ridiculous. That is what made me and so many others like the game.
Just because some parts of the game are silly and ridiculous doesn't mean that the entire game needs to follow this logic however. SS is a massive game, even in this alpha state. Make it a brilliant open world adventure that shows a little bit of everything, like Grand theft auto 5. It takes itself serious too, however also has sex jokes everywhere and constantly references aliens. Make it a healthy mix and don't focus on just one thing. Hell I won't even mind if the Harem aspect is in the game, I just don't want it to be the *only* endgame. Let there be an option to actually get a canon ending for every girl and everything afterwards is non canon towards that play through. Maybe I just care too much tho idk.
 

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This is way too convoluted.
Why is it fixed in a way that I can't even approach the guy about it?
 
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Does this mod also includes both branches for mia and helen, june, mrs. johnson like for ikaruga mod?
What mod are you talking about?
This quote encapsulates exactly how I feel about Summertime Saga.

I just want to play a game where I can earn a six figure per year salary while delivering pizzas in an expensive sports car

I want to play a game where numerous girls exclusively fall in love with me, all at he same time, and bear my children.

I want to play a game where I can have unprotected sex with as many beautiful girls as I can get, whenever I want.

I want to play a game where every attractive girl thinks I'm also attractive, handsome, sexy, and/or cute.

I want to play a game where I can simultaneously have multiple girlfriends who all genuinely like and desire me.

And I want to do all this without the real-life consequences and troubles that come with even attempting this kind of stuff, let alone achieving it.

I just want the American Teenage Boys Wet Dream (and I know I'm not the only one) and Summertime Saga provides that like no other game does.
I agree wholehartedly. Except that i am not a teenage boy. I am well in the second half of my century ;)

For me, this is just a game. My life does not depend on it. But that's also the reason that I can imagine to make it into everything I want, once it's finished. That's why I mod it.
 
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This is way too convoluted.
Why is it fixed in a way that I can't even approach the guy about it?
Erm... this is fixed once you played it. Afterwards, just go to the cookiejar to have that scene immediately...
 

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In theory, every doubt about MC being allowed to bang any girl can be remedied by answering two questions at the beginning of the game, or latest when answers become relevant:

1. I am OK with a harem situation.
2. I want to have my decisions to have consequences on my future sexual relationships.

I the player answers "yes" on question 2, any girl figuring out that he banged another girl will drop him. Easy as that. If he answered "no" on the first question, he wil not be offered any sex after the first girl he banged at all.

Who wants a porn game like that?
 
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I wouldn't want this game to be this hyper realistic either. Too much realism makes games tedious, Red Dead Redemption 2 is a good example of this. However, I don't want every girl to ultimately boil down to the same exact thing. Its good that Jenny stays a selfish bitch and doesn't just love you at the end of her route. Its a colorful cast of wacky, but realistic characters that all serve their purpose, be that comedic, sexy or romantic. Boiling them down and making them just another pretty face that gets MCs dick wet makes it all feel a bit shallow. It just reeks of lost potential, especially since SS has pretty good writing for what it is.



Just because some parts of the game are silly and ridiculous doesn't mean that the entire game needs to follow this logic however. SS is a massive game, even in this alpha state. Make it a brilliant open world adventure that shows a little bit of everything, like Grand theft auto 5. It takes itself serious too, however also has sex jokes everywhere and constantly references aliens. Make it a healthy mix and don't focus on just one thing. Hell I won't even mind if the Harem aspect is in the game, I just don't want it to be the *only* endgame. Let there be an option to actually get a canon ending for every girl and everything afterwards is non canon towards that play through. Maybe I just care too much tho idk.
The thing for me is that, there is a harem feature planned for the future, so why lock out sex scenes if you're planning a feature in which the MC ends up with multiple girls anyway? The game by design forces you to "cheat" on the girls, like with Tina and Maria for example. You can't really refuse to have sex with them. The MC is even having sex with his aunt behinds his mom's back and when they get caught the game rewards you with a new sex scene. The game since the beginning never really gives you any real consequences for your choices.
 
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The thing for me is that, there is a harem feature planned for the future, so why lock out sex scenes if you're planning a feature in which the MC ends up with multiple girls anyway?
As far as I understood it the harem feature was never meant to be a "full harem" feature in that sense. As DC somewhat explained it, you are meant to buy certain furnitures for the beach house and can then invite schoolgirls over. If you combine the right girls and furnitures, you'll get a scene. I mean, the game remains extremely limited by time, so it's not like he would ever be able to create the scenes to mix x number of girls at the player's will. That is actually almost my biggest complaint, it'll just take soooooo much time that could be used to create scenes for actual branches.

The MC is even having sex with his aunt behinds his mom's back and when they get caught the game rewards you with a new sex scene.
To be fair, the dialogs when both are swimming in the pool indicate that Diane and Debbie had their fair share of fun before they somewhat settled down. To me it was pretty much in character for Debbie to give in and enjoy it. I mean, her fucking MC is taboo anyway and so adding a little extra isn't really that bad. I mean, he's her son and it's not like she plans to have a real relationship with him. At least that has always been my take of her motive. It's fun and a reminiscence of the old times.
 

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As far as I understood it the harem feature was never meant to be a "full harem" feature in that sense. As DC somewhat explained it, you are meant to buy certain furnitures for the beach house and can then invite schoolgirls over. If you combine the right girls and furnitures, you'll get a scene. I mean, the game remains extremely limited by time, so it's not like he would ever be able to create the scenes to mix x number of girls at the player's will. That is actually almost my biggest complaint, it'll just take soooooo much time that could be used to create scenes for actual branches.
Even if the harem feature is somewhat limited, MC will still end up with multiple girls. I don't even know why I'm defending the linear routes so much, I prefer being able to get all the girls, but I don't really mind the branching paths.
 
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I wouldn't want this game to be this hyper realistic either. Too much realism makes games tedious, Red Dead Redemption 2 is a good example of this. However, I don't want every girl to ultimately boil down to the same exact thing. Its good that Jenny stays a selfish bitch and doesn't just love you at the end of her route. Its a colorful cast of wacky, but realistic characters that all serve their purpose, be that comedic, sexy or romantic. Boiling them down and making them just another pretty face that gets MCs dick wet makes it all feel a bit shallow. It just reeks of lost potential, especially since SS has pretty good writing for what it is.
I completely agree with everything you posted here. I am strongly in favor of there being a diverse array of characters, each with their own personality traits and relation to the MC.

I don't want the entire collection of girls to be a bag of m&ms, a vast array of diverse coatings but all possessing the same exact fundamental core.

In my original posts, all I am stating is that if you are looking for a game that severely punishes the MC whenever he "cheats" on a girl, well then this ain't it, chief.

I want there to be branching choices and consequences in the game. But I want these things to be limited and minimal.
I don't want these things defining the game and taking away the "being able to have sex with multiple girls without any real/major consequence" aspect.


Just because some parts of the game are silly and ridiculous doesn't mean that the entire game needs to follow this logic however. SS is a massive game, even in this alpha state. Make it a brilliant open world adventure that shows a little bit of everything, like Grand theft auto 5. It takes itself serious too, however also has sex jokes everywhere and constantly references aliens. Make it a healthy mix and don't focus on just one thing. Hell I won't even mind if the Harem aspect is in the game, I just don't want it to be the *only* endgame. Let there be an option to actually get a canon ending for every girl and everything afterwards is non canon towards that play through. Maybe I just care too much tho idk.
I strongly agree with what you're saying here as well.
The game should be a mix of silliness and seriousness.
The game should have a little bit of everything since variety is the spice of life.
And the game should have multiple endings, some of which won't and shouldn't be a harem ending.

But when we say Summertime Saga is a silly game, we don't mean to say that every aspect of the game is funny or ridiculous or outlandish. Nor do we mean every aspect of the game should be silly or outlandish.
Instead, we are implying that overall, the game is not to be taken too seriously (one shouldn't focus too heavily on the morality of the MC's "cheating" behavior) even though it will contain many serious elements.

No one is arguing that all serious aspects of the game should be removed or replaced with silly ones.
I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who believes the serious aspects of Eve's storyline should be replaced with jokes.
 
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Guys, help. Who is this 2 lock girls? And how can i get a second scene with Odette
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1) You should really refer to the walkthrough on the first page of this thread. It'll most likely have all the answers you seek.

2) It seems the two girls you're missing are Daisy (the cow girl) and Grace (Eve's red-headed sister).
If you wish to learn how to access them, refer to the walkthrough I mentioned above.

3) The second scene with Odette is obtained by doing the Grace & Odette weekend evening massage for a second time.
The MC will then have the choice between Odette or Grace giving him his massage.
Since you haven't unlocked Grace, it seems that you haven't done the weekend evening massage even once.

Hope this helps!
 

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Even if the harem feature is somewhat limited, MC will still end up with multiple girls. I don't even know why I'm defending the linear routes so much, I prefer being able to get all the girls, but I don't really mind the branching paths.
Sure, I think few are really agaist multiple girls but more against completely random/unrefined outcomes. Of course not much is known about their stories, but even with this little content I could see a combinaton of Ronda/Eve or Mia/Judith if done well. Roxxy's sharing fetish is certainly fitting and if Mia really ends up being "the girl who wants to break out her shell and experience as much as possible" and if Annie (hopefully) gets a somewhat submissive trait, they'd be good parings for others, too. There's much you can do with good writing.
 

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That's quite normal, since the story and the game evolves. New variables get set and will be required for lots of stuff, you would miss in old saves.
In that game you can simply cheat in the dev phases, so you can mostly concentrate on parts you want to enjoy.
Well, the most developers manage to do that without requiring a new game start each time they release a major version, so I don't really buy that. Except he's still at the beginning phase of this game but I doubt this to be the case.
At least the developer should think about adding a kind of conversion option for the saves or he should think about restructuring the saves in a way that allows the newly added content to be saved on top of existing save data without crushing the whole structure each time.
But somehow I have the feeling that won't really be the case...
 

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Well, the most developers manage to do that without requiring a new game start each time they release a major version, so I don't really buy that. Except he's still at the beginning phase of this game but I doubt this to be the case.
At least the developer should think about adding a kind of conversion option for the saves or he should think about restructuring the saves in a way that allows the newly added content to be saved on top of existing save data without crushing the whole structure each time.
But somehow I have the feeling that won't really be the case...
It's not so easy with this game. But anyway, since 0.19.5 you are able to load older saves in most cases.
 
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