MC's Hammer

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Apr 23, 2018
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Game started with good intention & quality and now it is just became another point & click "adult adventure" game.
Imagine if DC implemented racial abilities, co-op support, and legendary items as loot from the maze minigame on the computer? I think the PVP elements are a bit lacking as well. It seems like Dexter is the only real boss in the game. The next update should include more action, which is a good sign that DC has a plan. MC uses stealth quite a bit. I wish there was a trainable sneak skill, like in Skyrim. It just sucks because he gets caught with his dick out at half of the should-be skill checks.

DC should just scrap it and make it an MMORPG in my opinion. There's so little sexual content that the it won't really be missed, and DC can focus on what truly makes the game great.. the pizza delivery minigame and fishing.
 

Squark ⚧❤️

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Jun 16, 2017
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The game is 100% free. Patreon and therefore sending DC Money is optional since day 1 and the first release of and early build with literally nothing to do then walking around the house. So everything you said is invalid and makes no sense.

If you wanna discuss something about the game feel free to do so. But if you dislike that DC is making money for giving you a FREE GAME i suggest you simply ignore the game and the thread.
I think you're in the wrong thread.
the only thing which could make Nadya more perfect would be her smoking a cigarette.
No. Smoking is a filthy, digusting habit that's about as erotic to me as a festering turd is to a germophobe.
 

X0M3!

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Nov 13, 2019
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The game is 100% free.
Nothing is free. Without piracy/share you have to wait 24HR which worst than steam DRM games(most of which gets cracked within few hours). The point wasn't its "free" or he is making too much money, its the deception I was referring to. Yes its free after 24HR but is the content now worth 4+ months wait & $300k+ & 2 part? Streaming 2hr long tit drawing process doesn't make DC immutable from criticism.
Also isn't it suspicious that bugs were ~96/200 24hrs ago now its 90/129 bugs Fixed, I guess ranting did work & v20 will be released this Sunday(likely).
 

SCynic

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Nothing is free. Without piracy/share you have to wait 24HR which worst than steam DRM games(most of which gets cracked within few hours). The point wasn't its "free" or he is making too much money, its the deception I was referring to. Yes its free after 24HR but is the content now worth 4+ months wait & $300k+ & 2 part? Streaming 2hr long tit drawing process doesn't make DC immutable from criticism.
Also isn't it suspicious that bugs were ~96/200 24hrs ago now its 90/129 bugs Fixed, I guess ranting did work & v20 will be released this Sunday(likely).
I dont get you man. Why do you even care? It's a quality game, one you dont have to pay for. You say giving access to only those who support him for 24 measly hours is worse than Steam DRM games!? That is patently ridiculous. Just outright insane.

Then you flip your own argument and say okay it's free but the wait is too long and he makes too much money and splits the content up and you dont like it cuz bleagh!

Finally you quite false numbers and disregard being given a specific reason for the change.

I can't argue against any of this. Mostly because to do so, your position would have to be based on a foundation. You're flip-flopping and using false information as well as hyperbole and logical fallacy.

Truth is, Summertime Saga has done amazingly well because of the consistent and continued improvement of literally every aspect of the project. The artwork is continuously worked on and improved. The code started as the work of an amateur and is now done by professionals. The updates started very close together, but as the project scope and quality has increased, so has the time needed to make updates marginally increased. All of this has been facilitated by the large amount of support from patrons.

No one said the man is immune from criticism, but name another dev in the same niche of the industry who maintains the level of transparency, consistency, quality and passion for their product, without taking long hiatus because they are "burnt out" or whatever. The man got sick and then had a kid. If those are things that you fault someone for, I pray you dont own a business or are in any position of management over people.
 

Geowraith

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I think that this project has exhausted itself, I’m not really looking forward to it, and the characters put a lot of pressure on it, in short, in the furnace!
When the major plot thread is moving forward again... within a nice little town and its denizens largely in place? Plenty of room yet exists for story and shenanigans... we will see, though.
 
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Mumumu1221

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Nothing is free. Without piracy/share you have to wait 24HR which worst than steam DRM games(most of which gets cracked within few hours). The point wasn't its "free" or he is making too much money, its the deception I was referring to. Yes its free after 24HR but is the content now worth 4+ months wait & $300k+ & 2 part? Streaming 2hr long tit drawing process doesn't make DC immutable from criticism.
Also isn't it suspicious that bugs were ~96/200 24hrs ago now its 90/129 bugs Fixed, I guess ranting did work & v20 will be released this Sunday(likely).
The Bug went from 173/213 to 89/123 because they took out bugs that was from the 19.5 update.
 
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Kenuichi

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Just a quick reminder for you guys...don't try to change somoeone's mind who thinks DC's milking patreon because you won't make it and it's pointless because there will be still people with they're own mindset and opinions i tried a couple times and it didn't work,i've never complained about DC and i'm not a supporter of his but i really appreciate what he's doing and how much work put into this game,so yeah...don't get into long discussions,enjoy life and be thankful of every second that it gives you.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Oct 1, 2017
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Nothing is free. Without piracy/share you have to wait 24HR which worst than steam DRM games(most of which gets cracked within few hours). The point wasn't its "free" or he is making too much money, its the deception I was referring to. Yes its free after 24HR but is the content now worth 4+ months wait & $300k+ & 2 part? Streaming 2hr long tit drawing process doesn't make DC immutable from criticism.
Also isn't it suspicious that bugs were ~96/200 24hrs ago now its 90/129 bugs Fixed, I guess ranting did work & v20 will be released this Sunday(likely).
1. This game is.
2. Most DRM Games get cracked way after 24 hours like most AAA Titles.
3. How many years do AAA Titles need for development again?
4. As DC many times said if you can copy his Art Style 1:1 you are hired. If you know someone who can do that he can send his Art work to DC over Discord.
5. No as you could ask us Chat Mods or on Discord you would know that the bug counter was bugged and showed the bugs from last update instead of this release that was fixed later on.

No one is save from criticism if its constructive. Simply bashing a dev making money of his work when giving his game out for free is nothing but envy of bitter people who have nothing constructive to say.

I think you're in the wrong thread.
I am not. You missed some trolls ranting about how DC is scamming basically everyone with his free game and mods got rid of those people. I don't mind critique but straight up lying is where i and others have to adress it before they flood the Thread OT.
 

Page_Turner

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Damn, I thought it'd be out by Friday. Maybe it'll be put sometime this weekend, but part of me isn't holding out hope :/
 

Keitaro420

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1. This game is.
2. Most DRM Games get cracked way after 24 hours like most AAA Titles.
3. How many years do AAA Titles need for development again?
4. As DC many times said if you can copy his Art Style 1:1 you are hired. If you know someone who can do that he can send his Art work to DC over Discord.
5. No as you could ask us Chat Mods or on Discord you would know that the bug counter was bugged and showed the bugs from last update instead of this release that was fixed later on.

No one is save from criticism if its constructive. Simply bashing a dev making money of his work when giving his game out for free is nothing but envy of bitter people who have nothing constructive to say.



I am not. You missed some trolls ranting about how DC is scamming basically everyone with his free game and mods got rid of those people. I don't mind critique but straight up lying is where i and others have to adress it before they flood the Thread OT.
The fact that DC is looking for an artist to replicate his art is an excuse, he might as well hire someone for the backgrounds and scenarios.
The matter of DC making a lot of money is something we should not comment on, since it is his creation and he can do whatever he wants with it and people are free to donate, but that does not take away the fact that DC is milking profits at the expense of the Summertime Saga.
And although it may sound bad the last thing I said, it's normal behavior for a business, but I'm surprised that many people defend it as if DC was a philanthropist or something.

Edit:
What I'm saying is not against DC, I love Summertime saga, but one thing doesn't take away the other.
 
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