Super Awesome NTR suggestion

RoseWulfLea

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Yeah, so I'm now kinda into ntr (don't know when that happened) and there is only two types from what I've seen. One is the female focused corruption and isn't half bad. The other is the guy focused where you feel like dying inside cause it focuses on breaking and taking everything the mc holds dear and rubbing his face in it.

I have a thought however, of a ntr subgenre I;m calling loveable bastards, where the guy cucking the mc is just hard to hate. Like their a nice guy and generally look out for the mc, their bros, but the cucker just can't help get the guys girl/s. where the guy getting cucked is like shit, i'm pissed/sad but at the same time your so cool about other stuff that I just can't hate you dude. Would this be like softcore ntr? What do you all think?
 
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Meaning Less

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Probably will depend on the level of the jealousy depicted by the mc.

If he is still very jealous inside and afraid of losing her but can't act because he likes the other guy that much it would be netorare still, especially if this other guy keeps exploiting this flaw every chance he gets.

If he enjoys the feeling of having her taken by this guy and let's it happen then it becomes netorase, for netorase no bad guys are necessary because the mc willingly encourages this behavior.

But if for some reason the mc doesn't feel jealous at all and just shares the girl because he likes the other guy that much then it wouldn't be ntr and instead just swinging.

It could be hot either way but it isn't really that far away from a normal ntr scenario.
You could create some pretty nice oblivious scenes with it, like this friend coming over frequently and touching the mc's girl while he isn't looking slowly ramping up into more perverted stuff and so on.
 
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woody554

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it sounds like making an ntr story without the ntr fetish, so first you lose all non-ntr audience by having the guy steal your girl, then you lose the ntr audience by removing/watering down the masochism. leaving you with null audience. or more likely disappointed ntr people who arent getting what they look for.

are you sure you're not into sharing instead of ntr? the setup fits sharing perfectly. also voyerism.
 

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It's kind of hard to say, it depends on how many players that like NTR are into all the submissive stuff and jealous setting.

Overall it's good to remind that there aren't only 2 groups of people related to NTR (fans and haters) but there are middle groups, for someone like me that is kind of in the middle (I like antagonists cause of the challenge and because they fuel my victory feeling) taking away the masochism is appreciated, still it is a niche as many others.

For example I would rather prefer that if your best friend steals your girlfriend that it was more about his guilt for doing so and the sexual tension that pushed him to do it rather than the typical idiot in NTR games.
 
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Hagatagar

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I have a philosophical question. If you have a game where you play two characters and you use one of them to steal the other's girlfriend, would it be NTR? :unsure: ;)
 

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I have a philosophical question. If you have a game where you play two characters and you use one of them to steal the other's girlfriend, would it be NTR? :unsure: ;)
Yes both ways, it is netorare for the guy that loses the girl, and netori for the guy that gets the girl.

If we had both tags, both would be used.
 

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I have a philosophical question. If you have a game where you play two characters and you use one of them to steal the other's girlfriend, would it be NTR? :unsure: ;)
There is a game like that, 3 couples and you can control whichever of the 6 of them you want and make them do stuff with each other. I quite liked it but dev hasn't been heard from in a while and it's stuck in the translation threads.
 

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You just want to make everyone happy, but you can't.
Ntr haters uninstall game as soon as they see smallest ntr movements.
Ntr lovers don't get enough from you light ntr subgenre. So there is no way, lets just make more harem games instead)
 

RoseWulfLea

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it sounds like making an ntr story without the ntr fetish, so first you lose all non-ntr audience by having the guy steal your girl, then you lose the ntr audience by removing/watering down the masochism. leaving you with null audience. or more likely disappointed ntr people who arent getting what they look for.

are you sure you're not into sharing instead of ntr? the setup fits sharing perfectly. also voyerism.
It's been a minute, but my NTR taste seems less to be about the suffering of the MC, and more about the corruption of the woman. Swinging, voyeurism, and such falls into that but there is something about the sweet girlfriend to complete slut levels of corruption that are a huge turn on and the picking and prodding at the MC is a total turn off. Some of the works that I like alot (the art and the corrutpion) are kinda love/hate for me instead of pure loving it cause of the need to squash the mc for some reason (Otomedori by Carn is one such work).

Long story short I want the corruption of NTR without the depression and such.
 

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Netorase is the way for you friend and maybe NTR type A. Try marina cuckolding report series and mayumi series by Atelier Sakura. The translations are here. Also check for anim mm games. Happy hunting.;)
 

desmosome

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This can only work as netorase or just some comedy porn. It fundamentally doesn't make sense for the cucked dude to be cool with the friend banging his women unless he is into it. So you either make it netorase or just throw out all pretense of a serious story and make it comedy.

I mean, do you honestly believe a functional human being would ever think, "I'm pissed/sad but at the same time your so cool about other stuff that I just can't hate you dude?"
 

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Long story short I want the corruption of NTR without the depression and such.
the corruption doesn't really come from the ntr. in ntr the (sought after) pain comes from the girl WILLINGLY choosing the bastard over you. the pain of jealousy and humiliation is what the ntr aficionado seeks. if the girl is forced against her will it's not ntr because nobody is 'taking her away'. she's going willingly.

it really sounds like you're into sharing + corruption instead of ntr. maybe try if that combination of tags hits you better than ntr.

well, I guess that's all assuming that when you say you're put off by the mc being humiliated you don't mean that you at the same time like that feeling? I mean I think you mean you don't want it, but in the context of loving ntr, I can see how someone might say that they hate being cucked but that it's exactly why they like ntr.
 

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the corruption doesn't really come from the ntr. in ntr the (sought after) pain comes from the girl WILLINGLY choosing the bastard over you. the pain of jealousy and humiliation is what the ntr aficionado seeks. if the girl is forced against her will it's not ntr because nobody is 'taking her away'. she's going willingly.

it really sounds like you're into sharing + corruption instead of ntr. maybe try if that combination of tags hits you better than ntr.

well, I guess that's all assuming that when you say you're put off by the mc being humiliated you don't mean that you at the same time like that feeling? I mean I think you mean you don't want it, but in the context of loving ntr, I can see how someone might say that they hate being cucked but that it's exactly why they like ntr.
The girl giving in to the NTR is a form of corruption, and yeah I don't like the guy being the FOCUS. Which is why I tend to like the unaware NTR victim stories more than the aware/ mental breakdown ones Carn is yet again a good example of both of these. Another good example is how much time Midori no Rupe spends on the MC in Garden, especially the animated versions, and his downspiral. In the manga it's necessary to achieve the ending it has, which is the saving grace of that, but the animation ends on a depressing note, and I tend to skip it so I don't lose the good feelings. It's the act of the girl being broken into a lustful thing, even with her love for her significant other, not the guys depression that turns me on.
 
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The girl giving in to the NTR is a form of corruption, and yeah I don't like the guy being the FOCUS. Which is why I tend to like the unaware NTR victim stories more than the aware/ mental breakdown ones Carn is yet again a good example of both of these. Another good example is how much time Midori no Rupe spends on the MC in Garden, especially the animated versions, and his downspiral. In the manga it's necessary to achieve the ending it has, which is the saving grace of that, but the animation ends on a depressing note, and I tend to skip it so I don't lose the good feelings. It's the act of the girl being broken into a lustful thing, even with her love for her significant other, not the guys depression that turns me on.
yeah that's corruption. ntr not needed. but the most important thing is you get the games you like. it just sounded like you weren't getting them with ntr. that you liked everything in the games except the actual ntr part.
 

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NTR is too constricted into neat categories when stories can explore a wide degree of its potential just like the rest of the genres do.
 
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RoseWulfLea

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yeah that's corruption. ntr not needed. but the most important thing is you get the games you like. it just sounded like you weren't getting them with ntr. that you liked everything in the games except the actual ntr part.
What about the better stuff, despite the depressing NTR. Like Carn or Midori no Rupe. Or that tachibana comic