Pure route is exactly 1 power point short from saving Laurie after visiting Aglaecwif.
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I wasnt aware of the gerald situation even with a pure run as my main because like you said pure runs tend to kill as few people as possible lol, you are correct that skill is more valuable on pure runs but like you said right now there isnt really any reason to be pure other than RP. With that being said I dont think 0 corruption will be the "cut off" for any future exclusive content either because that would require you to "fail" a single characters event and IMO that runs counter to the idea of "needing allies" that low corruption leans towards (the eye mentions something about this iirc)
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Up to the "left or right" choice during the diamond battle, this is what the various routes get you:
High Corruption level: 20-27
Kill everyone and make all the correct choices: 27
-1 spare Demi
-1 spare the cops
-1 spare Jake
-2 spare Danica
-1 fail to make the Minyak submit by either not klling Danica or prematurely killing Bailey
-1 failing to get enough Power to consume Kenny
Having 20 or more corruption at this point and not wearing the helmet unlocks deadend37.
These are the maximized stats depending on the playthrough (and assuming you picked the horn):
Corrupt Power: 105 / 26 Skill
Corrupt Skill: 103 / 27 Skill (Delay training events to have 9 Power when training with Alice after she gets her powers)
Pure Power: 100 / 26 Skill (Impossible to get Valravn respect)
Pure Skill: 99 / 27 Skill (Fails every power check in the game)
Power/Skill related Scenes:
Notes:
The game currently does not consider Corruption as a morality meter. While these 2 have some overlap, it's possible to have high corruption and high moral stat. To access the moral stat you need to enable the console.
The Eye says that it's possible to lose the corruption ending if you don't eat Kenny.
This means that only the Corrupt Power playthrough meets all the requirements.
If I had to bet, I'd say that between Kenny and Bailey, eating Bailey is the important choice and Kenny won't be that important, but that's just a feeling I have. The Eye's dialogue allows the possibility of reaching this end even if you miss eating someone and Kenny is a good candidate.
While Deadends show some important stuff, they are still deadends.
Most of the choices presented here do not actually have an impact on the story as of latest update but that could change.
This is what I think about their potential.
Eating Kenny -> Possibly affects the high corruption/consumption ending.
Valravn Respect -> Possibly affects Valravn's behavior down the line. Possibly allows for an alternate ending.
Meeting Aglaecwif -> Possibly allows for an alternate ending. Possibly affects a combat scene down the line. Possibly adds an ally down the line.
Saving Laurie -> Possible sex scene, Possible "harem" member, Possible girlfriend for Deryl.
High Corruption level: 20-27
Kill everyone and make all the correct choices: 27
-1 spare Demi
-1 spare the cops
-1 spare Jake
-2 spare Danica
-1 fail to make the Minyak submit by either not klling Danica or prematurely killing Bailey
-1 failing to get enough Power to consume Kenny
Having 20 or more corruption at this point and not wearing the helmet unlocks deadend37.
These are the maximized stats depending on the playthrough (and assuming you picked the horn):
Corrupt Power: 105 / 26 Skill
Corrupt Skill: 103 / 27 Skill (Delay training events to have 9 Power when training with Alice after she gets her powers)
Pure Power: 100 / 26 Skill (Impossible to get Valravn respect)
Pure Skill: 99 / 27 Skill (Fails every power check in the game)
Power/Skill related Scenes:
| Pure Skill | Pure Power | Corrupt Skil | Corrupt Power | |
| Deadend3 | No | No | No | Yes |
| Kenny Eaten | No | No | No | Yes |
| Valravn Respect | Yes | No | Yes | Yes |
| Save Laurie | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Meet Aglaecwif+Save Laurie | No | Yes | Yes | Yes |
| Deadend39 | No | Yes (Can't save Laurie, must get power from Aglaecwif) | Yes (Can't Save Laurie, must get power from Aglaecwif) | Yes |
| Save Laurie+Deadend39 (No Aglaecwif) | No | No | No | Yes (Cannot meet Agalecwif, Must fight the Wepwawet correctly) |
Notes:
The game currently does not consider Corruption as a morality meter. While these 2 have some overlap, it's possible to have high corruption and high moral stat. To access the moral stat you need to enable the console.
The Eye says that it's possible to lose the corruption ending if you don't eat Kenny.
This means that only the Corrupt Power playthrough meets all the requirements.
If I had to bet, I'd say that between Kenny and Bailey, eating Bailey is the important choice and Kenny won't be that important, but that's just a feeling I have. The Eye's dialogue allows the possibility of reaching this end even if you miss eating someone and Kenny is a good candidate.
While Deadends show some important stuff, they are still deadends.
Most of the choices presented here do not actually have an impact on the story as of latest update but that could change.
This is what I think about their potential.
Eating Kenny -> Possibly affects the high corruption/consumption ending.
Valravn Respect -> Possibly affects Valravn's behavior down the line. Possibly allows for an alternate ending.
Meeting Aglaecwif -> Possibly allows for an alternate ending. Possibly affects a combat scene down the line. Possibly adds an ally down the line.
Saving Laurie -> Possible sex scene, Possible "harem" member, Possible girlfriend for Deryl.
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You know,if we can copy nico's teleport... even if it's not very efficient it's actually pretty good....in a life and death situation, we can save ourself or our allies even if it cost more energy (it barely cost any energy for nico... she can spam it all day)
- Aug 1, 2020
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Kenny is the son of Oil Bailey is the Grandaughter of Oil Jake is the failed chosen of authority and Danica is the crossed Assassin plus the others that will come up in the future they must all be devoured/consumed miss even a single you will never reach the heights you could have but above all fate must be devoured .
Sorry mister eye, but harem above corruption
- Jul 13, 2021
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Yes this is the quote. One small correction is the bolded word.
The Eye says that if you miss even one, you MAY never reach the heights of power.
Of all the consumed people, Kenny is the only actually missable one as he requires a max Power playthrough.
Everyone else is a choice without requirements.
Kenny is also the only one of the four that doesn't have an appearence since his death.
So I really believe that the "may" part of Eye's speech refers to him
To be honest, I'm expecting that Danica's romance will progress either way. Both her and Jake seem to have accepted their predicament.
I also expect huge revelations from Bailey. I'm super hyped about "the other world" she mentions. I think this other world will include Danica too.
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During mc fight against Deryl ,just before is 3rd evolution .
a good thing to remember about that is what Sylla said about these memory
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So it's not like he's going to have acces of all the power of people close to him at whim and i would expect at first mc able to use some basic capacity of each trait and train and finding a balance with all of them, in a similar way to what he did in the begining when he tried to copy other animals abilities but this time with other trait (like teleporting (but on little scale), absorbing energy like Michael, or the passive protection of Alice at first and the furter we move in the story, the stronger mc get and the better he will become with these new copied capacity , to a point when he will mastering them an be overpowered anyway at the end of the story.)
There is that A rank monster looking like Sylla that can copy any people from the memory of her target;but limited by his own pool of power.
Whether or not she is connected to Sylla, i would expect it to be closer to memory than mc and therefore capable of more things with memory trait.
So another possiblity is that Mc won't be able to do the same thing and he could be limited with some passive or basic capacity of each superhuman/monster from whom he possess memories ,which will still remain extremely usefull and adding versatily for mc without killing interest of other superhuman (because if mc can do everything Alice or Michael can do, with him beeing one evolution above them, showing their evolution as superhuman in the story will become almost meaningless )
The most problematic part is about it altering mc balance between is two trait, because with Sylla, we know that she lost her purity because of things she's done before meeting Stephen, and since she was chosen of the 4th (so she was pure memory) i think that it would be weird that using her trait would taint her purity, but since we dont know anything about that part of Sylla's past, we can only theorize about it .
But i would expect Sylla to warn us about it if they where any problem with that since she want to help us to be as close as possible to 50-50.
And for your question at the end, from what Sylla said mc should be 50%body since his father was a perfect match with it but Sylla isnt, she's more geared toward memory and purer than most, so we could expect something between 60-80 + something else, so mc should have inerited Sylla impurity too, and in theory he souldnt be able to be a perfect 50-50 either and it's seem like it's what Sylla implie.
Sylla mention that mc body as moved to forward, and now she try to counterbalance it with memories to "balance everything out" and then hopping that the 4th will be satisfied.
The question is, would it supress what remains of the other trait if mc would focus on one or would it work like some container filled with several component until he's full (full here mean reaching is fifth evolution since it's when other power manifesting stop) and only balancing with what's already there. The most logical answer would be the second and from what Sylla said about "balancing everything out", it's seems like it.
And the question about becoming pure could be answered with just that, but also with Sylla herself, since she somehow lost her purity, what could stop her to restore it if it was just about getting some good memories like she do it now with mc? in theory nothing and yet she didnt, but maybe she just died before having time to do so or found another purpose with Stephen and her son.
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in order to save Laurie, you have to get enough "Deryl win point" and having 28 skill point.
Pick "Hesitate" during Deryl fight and you need to have 100+power (otherwise it will be a dead end), that will get you 3 Deryl point after mc evolution and combined with 28 skill point,
By picking left a little before the fight, you can meet Aglaecwiff and gaining 3 extra skill point as a reward and as long as you haven't skipped any event you should have enough for you to save Laurie's life.
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Huh. Didn't know you can save her. I thought her death was canon. It brought a sense of purpose for Deryl, like now he has something else to improve himself for so he can avenge her. I guess I'll keep it that way in my playthrough.
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About saving Laurie, you can do it in two ways depending on your preferences. First, depending on your choise w/Michal and if you trained and consume the right people (the ones that give power and corruption), you should be around 105 Power and 26 Skill (if you fought Michael w/Power); OR 102 Power and 27 Skill (if you fought Michael w/Skill) BEFORE the Battle of Diamond.
From there, your path split in two ways:
IF YOU WANT TO IMPREGNATE MONSTER MOMMY go LEFT; from here pick Skill from her (+3 Skill), going to 29-30 Skill; during the battle with Deryl choose "Figure out a way on your own", "The red eyed chimera" and "Hesitate" (here is where the Power comes into play, since you pick to go LEFT you NEED 100+ Power to survive hesitating agains Deryl). From here, justo say "No" to the Eye and "Destroy it before its finished" to complete the fight and save Gamergirl.
IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT MONSTER MOMMY, go RIGHT; from here pick "Try to overcome its power" (+5 Power and +3 Skill); now the rest is a repeat from the other path, but you don't have to worry about the Power check of 100. So just pick "Figure out a way on your own", "The red eyed chimera", "Hesitate", "No", and "Destroy it before its finished" to save Gamergirl.
In the end, it all comes down to you wanting to impregnate Aglaecwif or gain extra power. Hope it helped.
From there, your path split in two ways:
IF YOU WANT TO IMPREGNATE MONSTER MOMMY go LEFT; from here pick Skill from her (+3 Skill), going to 29-30 Skill; during the battle with Deryl choose "Figure out a way on your own", "The red eyed chimera" and "Hesitate" (here is where the Power comes into play, since you pick to go LEFT you NEED 100+ Power to survive hesitating agains Deryl). From here, justo say "No" to the Eye and "Destroy it before its finished" to complete the fight and save Gamergirl.
IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT MONSTER MOMMY, go RIGHT; from here pick "Try to overcome its power" (+5 Power and +3 Skill); now the rest is a repeat from the other path, but you don't have to worry about the Power check of 100. So just pick "Figure out a way on your own", "The red eyed chimera", "Hesitate", "No", and "Destroy it before its finished" to save Gamergirl.
In the end, it all comes down to you wanting to impregnate Aglaecwif or gain extra power. Hope it helped.
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The way I understand this quote is the exact same thing as when MC gets memories from a thug or a scientist.
It has to do more about MC's understanding and a better way to apply his Memory power. Nothing more.
So just like consuming a scientist will give him some insight into the science and the individual's thought process, getting the Apostle memories will give him some insight into how the Apostle thinks and processes it's existence.
Every time he connects to an Apostle, he gains understanding about the relevant aspect.
Every time he meditates to these memories, he improves the way he processes these aspects.
He can use this new knowledge to make better decisions, gain more knowledge and insight from the same interaction.
And eventually he can use it as part of his Memory powers to do more:
Authority said:
Power said:
Body said:
Memory said:
Time said:
Examples:Space said:
Now that MC has knowledge about the aspect of Authority, he can stand above the rest. He is going to be more powerful and confident, he will recognize how to apply himself in a way that makes him more authoritative and secure. He will understand things that only those who have affinitity for this aspect understand. He will slowly turn into a leader.
Now that he has knowledge about the aspect of Time and Space, his temporal and spatial awareness will increase, along with his attention to detail. His eyes will see more details, he will be able to get more information to gain the upper hand in every interaction, be it an argument or combat.
The longer he mediates and the more he assimilates these memories, the more connected he will be to the aspects respresented by the Apostles. All this knowledge will make his Memories extremely potent. With enough time he will end up becoming omniscient, deriving an extreme amount of information from the smallest things possible. He will be able to understand and replicate anything.
One look will allow him to know the past, the present and the future and he will have perfect context for every piece of information.
He will know exactly what transformation to use, exactly how much force to apply, exactly what types of abilities he is going to face.
etc.
Now your bit about Syla being incapable of restoring her purity:
Syla says that high quality memories will balance out MC's deficiency, to the point that Memory herself will be satisfied. She doesn't say anything about restoring MC to a pure 50-50 status, just that his 45% with high quality training will become as strong as his 50%. There is no reason to assume anything else in my opinion.
Whatever happened to Syla changed her. She used to have high Memory purity, but the decisions in her life made her impure for some reason.
Syla is not a shapeshifter, we can't determine any way that she actually did this to herself directly.
MC on the other hand is a shapeshifter, and there is a good chance that will be able to transform his lifeforce at will.
If he is capable of transforming his lifeforce to use other powers, then what's stopping him from transforming all the impurities he inherited from Syla, back into Memory?
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Imagine the shock of MC's captors when he will wake up and they realize that he became MUCH stronger that before. Someone's asses gonna get kicked really hard.
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I never said that her goal was to bring mc to 50-50, just to find some balance so that mc would be as close to that as possible because for me it's not possible. also, Sylla didn't say that it will be enough, she said that her mom wont be happy no matter what but she still hope that it will be enough to satisfied the 4th.
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and you can be close to be pure like Deryl with 91% but with a low connection when other monster with lesser % have a better connection so i dont think that it will change anything for mc on that point.
And Sylla mention that we just have to hope we were born right, it doesnt fit with mc changing himself either.
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Man this story is interesting af. But the fact that i have to wait a long time to know what's coming next is a bummer. But what can you do, art takes time. I'm thinking that i might start writing a story for my own game and start learning how to draw in the meantime while i wait for updates.