VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99] [WeirdWorld]

[Sayajin2205]

Normally I'd agree with that, the problem is that even if MC can use his best enhancements, every material he makes reacts the same way, be it heavy armor of plain flesh..

No no I didn't mean winning against Met I am talking about met being physically stronger that was what the other guy was talking about not about the fight just physical ability.

 

[OnlineRando]

Normally I'd agree with that, the problem is that even if MC can use his best enhancements, every material he makes reacts the same way, be it heavy armor of plain flesh.. Add to it that Met is an energy Superhuman, which means that he should be physically gifted, and the smart money bet on Met being the tougher of the two, at least for this particular instance.



Yeah that's the general sentiment. This growth that MC experiences when struck with electricity seems like a great way to support bigger transformations and faster regeneration using the Eel transformation as the "engine".

In any case, I think that this weakness is relevant to his Seahuman heritage and not really something related to his powers. It may be overwhelming for now, but eventually he will figure out some way to use it for his benefit.

Uhh seahuman? What?

 

[Sayajin2205]

Uhh seahuman? What?

MC's mom Syla is most likely a sea human

 

[Gtdead]

No no I didn't mean winning against Met I am talking about met being physically stronger that was what the other guy was talking about not about the fight just physical ability.

Perhaps. One thing to note is that we don't know how much MC can empower the materials he is using.

Superhuman bodies get naturally stronger magically. It's not just flesh anymore, it's monster energy. Is there a breakoff point where no material can possibly be stronger than a superhuman body? Can MC take any material and boost it with his energy to create something far stronger than the sum of it's parts or he is limited to his flesh, which is weaker due to his monster line?

The Eye deadend tells us that it's possible, but still it uses normal materials compressed to extreme levels, not empowered with energy.

 

[OnlineRando]

MC's mom Syla is most likely a sea human

The hell is a sea human? did I miss a mini-update or something?

 

[Gtdead]

Uhh seahuman? What?

If you visit the Vestige with Henri, it tells MC that he is the last of them. This vestige is of the Seahuman race probably, because it accepts the seahuman vertebrae MC offers and can even provide the full memory of what happened. It also mentions their great king which is a figure from Seahuman memories.

This along with some indications about Syla make it likely that they are Seahumans.

Seahumans and Skyhumans are introduced with the memories from the Shopkeep items. We still don't know much about them. I had a post summarising these memories, I'll edit with a link.

Edit: https://f95zone.to/threads/superhuman-v0-982-weirdworld.74436/post-11371537

 

[OnlineRando]

If you visit the Vestige with Henri, it tells MC that he is the last of them. This vestige is of the Seahuman race probably, because it accepts the seahuman vertebrae MC offers and can even provide the full memory of what happened.

This along with some indications about Syla make it likely that they are Seahumans.

Seahumans and Skyhumans are introduced with the memories from the Shopkeep items. We still don't know much about them. I had a post summarising these memories, I'll edit with a link.

Ah. Probably just didn't connect the descriptions of the items, they just didn't seem to matter. Didn't really read them with my lore glasses on.

 

[TheShelly]

I was saying it COULD be worse. It makes sense; if you have a balloon filled with air, and something makes the air crash into the balloon aggressively, the more air there is the more chance there is for the balloon to burst. But I agree its not confirmed in the slightest.

As for supernatural lightning, there is nothing saying it is NOT lightning speed (as far as I know/remember, not to mention tiffany moves at the speed of light AT LEVEL 1, so it's not far-fetched for lightning to go at lightning speeds at level 3), and I doubt Met's lightning would go faster than actual lightning before the limit breaker stage.

Michael's and Met's fight literally has a moment where Michael tries to use the fact that his radiation beams are faster than Met's lightning because theyre made of photons aka light particles to blast him while Met's zapping around in his lightning-bolt form, and Met literally just speeds up to outpace the beams.

Met's Lightning is clearly moving at usual speed for lightning at the very minimum, and can be proven to move faster than light with a little effort.

 

[OnlineRando]

Michael's and Met's fight literally has a moment where Michael tries to use the fact that his radiation beams are faster than Met's lightning because theyre made of photons aka light particles to blast him while Met's zapping around in his lightning-bolt form, and Met literally just speeds up to outpace the beams.

Met's Lightning is clearly moving at usual speed for lightning at the very minimum, and can be proven to move faster than light with a little effort.

-Which makes MC even less likely to dodge his attacks. Though, I don't think that Met can move at light-speeds, for the simple fact that he isn't at level 4 yet, so there's that. It is possible that lightning speed (or whatever speed Met was moving at) is simply fast enough for him to evade Micheal's radiation even though it is faster, as you don't necessarily need to be faster than something to dodge it.

 

[TheShelly]

-Which makes MC even less likely to dodge his attacks. Though, I don't think that Met can move at light-speeds, for the simple fact that he isn't at level 4 yet, so there's that. It is possible that lightning speed (or whatever speed Met was moving at) is simply fast enough for him to evade Micheal's radiation even though it is faster, as you don't necessarily need to be faster than something to dodge it.

If I recall the writing right, it doesn't mention Met specifically trying to dodge the radiation beams. It just mentions that Met outpaces them. Could be wrong though. Even if Met cannot achieve total FTL speeds at lvl 3, he would atleast need to have light-speed reflexes. Hell, even Michael could be argued to have light-speed reaction times during his evolution trance, when he intercepts Tiffany, landing at hit on her at the very moment she dropped out of it to attack.

 

[OnlineRando]

If I recall the writing right, it doesn't mention Met specifically trying to dodge the radiation beams. It just mentions that Met outpaces them. Could be wrong though. Even if Met cannot achieve total FTL speeds at lvl 3, he would atleast need to have light-speed reflexes. Hell, even Michael could be argued to have light-speed reaction times during his evolution trance, when he intercepts Tiffany, landing at hit on her at the very moment she dropped out of it to attack.

Aim dodging is a thing, and you don't necessarily need to have reflexes of a certain caliber to dodge things of that caliber; for example, even in real life, people can sometimes dodge bullets, although no human moves fast enough to do so due to sheer speed, and nor is their reaction fast enough to do that consistently. By simply predicting the opponent, you can dodge things you would have no chance to otherwise. as for Met just moving faster than Michael's beams I just checked and can confirm that it says "the lightning begins to move even faster, so there's that. Maybe Met is actually beyond light speed, or maybe Michael's power isn't actually light speed, though i'd find it redundant to mention his beams being photons if that's so. Could just be a mistake on WW's part, but who knows.

 

[-Maniackanime-]

Aim dodging is a thing, and you don't necessarily need to have reflexes of a certain caliber to dodge things of that caliber; for example, even in real life, people can sometimes dodge bullets, although no human moves fast enough to do so due to sheer speed, and nor is their reaction fast enough to do that consistently. By simply predicting the opponent, you can dodge things you would have no chance to otherwise. as for Met just moving faster than Michael's beams I just checked and can confirm that it says "the lightning begins to move even faster, so there's that. Maybe Met is actually beyond light speed, or maybe Michael's power isn't actually light speed, though i'd find it redundant to mention his beams being photons if that's so. Could just be a mistake on WW's part, but who knows.

Everyone forgetting that MC's most win comes from strategic thinking that utilizes his versatility of his powers to its fullest to win fights and with his false memories, he now has another weapon in his arsenal.

Making him a slippery opponent that as a fight goes on, the bigger chance he can understand his enemies and win.

That's why I believe Met would defeat mc because he's the same, electricity is versatile (can use it can be used internally and externally, like that big ass energy strike) not as versatile compared to the mc but, is stronger cause he is a pure breed, unlike mc (pure breeds are just better in raw strength of their ability).

Though I believe electricity is just too much for mc right now and will definitely be utilized it, in instant big transformation, if he can control the chaotic reaction when he touches electricity in the future, as mc is the descendant of the 4th, he understands...

 

[Davner]

Everyone forgetting that MC's most win comes from strategic thinking that utilizes his versatility of his powers to its fullest to win fights and with his false memories, he now has another weapon in his arsenal.

Making him a slippery opponent that as a fight goes on, the bigger chance he can understand his enemies and win.

That's why I believe Met would defeat mc because he's the same, electricity is versatile (can use it can be used internally and externally, like that big ass energy strike) not as versatile compared to the mc but, is stronger cause he is a pure breed, unlike mc (pure breeds are just better in raw strength of their ability).

Though I believe electricity is just too much for mc right now and will definitely be utilized it, in instant big transformation, if he can control the chaotic reaction when he touches electricity in the future, as mc is the descendant of the 4th, he understands...

If he found a way to ground himself with his steel arms by stabbing into the ground then maybe he can counter it. Electricity takes the path of least resistance. Sure Met can shoot it to whatever target he wants, but when in contact in the MC's body it will go down. Potentially.

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

I'm just at the party after MC gets exposed on the news and have a quick question:

I'm on Amber's romance route but Liz's friend route (i had sex with her all the time, just turned her down during her final event) and I didn't get the threesome at the party or even any non-sexual interaction with Amber or Liz.

I'm ok with missing out a sex scene or two (that's what the gallery's for) but out of curiosity does this lock me out of future Amber or Liz content entirely? Can I still do the Amber/Liz route if I'm only romancing one of them?

 

[TerminusPrime]

And MC has never shown to be able to shrug off even the weakest of electric attacks, nor was it shown to have changed since level one.

The MC absorbed the electricity from the taser during his final fight with Klaus and used it to power an evolution. Electricity is a strong weakness, but it's not guaranteed.

 

[lorkdubo]

I'm just at the party after MC gets exposed on the news and have a quick question:

I'm on Amber's romance route but Liz's friend route (i had sex with her all the time, just turned her down during her final event) and I didn't get the threesome at the party or even any non-sexual interaction with Amber or Liz.

I'm ok with missing out a sex scene or two (that's what the gallery's for) but out of curiosity does this lock me out of future Amber or Liz content entirely? Can I still do the Amber/Liz route if I'm only romancing one of them?

It does cut you out off content. You need both of them for the twin throuple.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

I'm just at the party after MC gets exposed on the news and have a quick question:

I'm on Amber's romance route but Liz's friend route (i had sex with her all the time, just turned her down during her final event) and I didn't get the threesome at the party or even any non-sexual interaction with Amber or Liz.

I'm ok with missing out a sex scene or two (that's what the gallery's for) but out of curiosity does this lock me out of future Amber or Liz content entirely? Can I still do the Amber/Liz route if I'm only romancing one of them?

You won't miss much. Sex scenes aside, I vaguely recall that there's one scene where he's a bit more openly affectionate with them if he's dating both than if he's dating just one (or neither), but that's it. Otherwise you're fine.

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

It does cut you out off content. You need both of them for the twin throuple.

You won't miss much. Sex scenes aside, I vaguely recall that there's one scene where he's a bit more openly affectionate with them if he's dating both than if he's dating just one (or neither), but that's it. Otherwise you're fine.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I'm ok missing the throuple sex scenes, as long as there's still story events for them. I got concerned since there was nothing at all at at the party.

Kind of a bummer you can't later jump into the straight up throuple path if you're dating just one of them and friends with the other though, esp since Amber's route kinda implies she just wants you to be friends with Liz for it to happen, not dating her.

 

[weezal]

MC says that trying electric transformations is problematic. However this isn't the same as protecting himself from electricity.
1. Against Klaus we've seen him cut off limbs struck with tasers.
2. Against Hydra Deryl we've seen that when his flesh explodes, it actually causes damage to the surroundings so Met isn't necessarily safe in melee.
3. Against Jake we've seen that electricity increases his regeneration and his resistance to various effects.

4. Met holds his charge inside him for physical boosts. If he starts shooting, he will lose strength and mobility. MC is very good at protecting himself against projectiles, he can just sacrifice basic tentacles, he doesn't even need his heavy duty tails.
5. Without seeing it, we can't know what will happen if MC and Met engage into trading melee blows. It's possible that electricity boosted regeneration and the blowback from explosions will allow MC to trade more efficiently.
6. The last interaction is Met's heavy attacks, like his dragon form. If that's enough to erase MC, then Met wins, if not, again it depends on the efficiency of trading blows, going back to 5.

So while I think that Met has a good match up here, there are multiple ways this fight can be hard for him. If MC's weakness directly translates to inefficient trading in melee, then MC loses. But based on his track record, this weakness to electricity is far more complex than what meets the eye.

PS.
- These reasons are why there exists a long running theory that electricity is actually a blessing in disguise for MC.
- Zack stops MC from fighting with Met because "attempting to regenerate will expose him". So at the very least, it seems that even while holding back for the infiltration, MC is actually capable of at least surviving his attacks.

yeah I’ve always suspected that MC isn’t actually weak to lightning. That it actually boosts his abilities but he just doesn’t know how to channel it. Considering the power crawl style of the game, MC is bound to overcome this “weakness” at some point so I can see him finally channeling it.

 

[Ddlc]

yeah I’ve always suspected that MC isn’t actually weak to lightning. That it actually boosts his abilities but he just doesn’t know how to channel it. Considering the power crawl style of the game, MC is bound to overcome this “weakness” at some point so I can see him finally channeling it.

It seems eletricity makes his cells multiply whitout control and then his body explodes, so by itself eletricity helps his regeneration and transformation, the real problem is that he can't stop the process. During his first evolution he was tazed but resisted the effect, according to his words it was a power out of his control because it was not his own power, my view is that with his increased power poll that amount of eletricity was just safely absorbed, i find it very relevant how Mc's power manifests as black lightning, i don't think i'ts for no reason, after all he did get in control of eletricity before safely and used to his advantage.