VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99] [WeirdWorld]

[Deleted member 7530943]

Man, cut MC some slack, you just don't know his pain, or you want me to prove his pain?
Fine!

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[Knight]

yeah I’ve always suspected that MC isn’t actually weak to lightning. That it actually boosts his abilities but he just doesn’t know how to channel it. Considering the power crawl style of the game, MC is bound to overcome this “weakness” at some point so I can see him finally channeling it.

Technically he can already overcome it the plot just choose not to let him do so. Since he can copy animals down to individual organs and even glands, he can just copy the energy storage matrix of a electric eel or catfish, combine it with high magnesium nerve spikes (or some other organic compatible conductive salt) to act as lighting guides and then just absorb the shock then distribute the energy or release it back in to the environment.

TBH, just with the power he has in the early game he was already borderline invincible with proper application. Given his regenerative and metabolic capacity combined with shape shifting he can just make a gland that produces nerve gas while making himself immune to the effect, which is a kill shot to most everyone he's fought so far who don't have powers that neutralize that.

 

[sexoffended]

Technically he can already overcome it the plot just choose not to let him do so. Since he can copy animals down to individual organs and even glands, he can just copy the energy storage matrix of a electric eel or catfish, combine it with high magnesium nerve spikes (or some other organic compatible conductive salt) to act as lighting guides and then just absorb the shock then distribute the energy or release it back in to the environment.

TBH, just with the power he has in the early game he was already borderline invincible with proper application. Given his regenerative and metabolic capacity combined with shape shifting he can just make a gland that produces nerve gas while making himself immune to the effect, which is a kill shot to most everyone he's fought so far who don't have powers that neutralize that.

Don't forget that MC is incapable of making small changes like deliberately growing a nerve or a blood vessel because his power works by instinct.

 

[Knight]

Don't forget that MC is incapable of making small changes like deliberately growing a nerve or a blood vessel because his power works by instinct.

He can make tendrils that produce jellyfish toxin, he used it against his first fight with Ella. Which means he can combine his own workings with specific glands or organs; it's not a single nerve or blood vessel, it's a systemic change.

Also, he can alter the chemical makeup of his skin and bodily extensions to a pretty specific degree (sword arms just as an example), making tendrils lined with organic conductors to act as lighting rods then just have an electric energy storage matrix (electric eels power comes from modified muscle) somewhere on his body is something he can do; he's done much more complex mix and matching and none of that is a micro level change.
And that's all it would take to neutralize 99% of electrical attacks.

 

[Knight]

Because as he explains, the material he uses doesn't matter. Metal, plastic, the result is always the same. Once electricity touches him, he explodes.

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

 

[Sayajin2205]

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

Unlike kryptonite tho electricity I really think will help mc in the future.Electricity rn feels like a fuel which mc just can't control.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

He can make tendrils that produce jellyfish toxin, he used it against his first fight with Ella. Which means he can combine his own workings with specific glands or organs; it's not a single nerve or blood vessel, it's a systemic change.

Also, he can alter the chemical makeup of his skin and bodily extensions to a pretty specific degree (sword arms just as an example), making tendrils lined with organic conductors to act as lighting rods then just have an electric energy storage matrix (electric eels power comes from modified muscle) somewhere on his body; he's done much more complex mix and matching and none of that is a micro level change.
And that's all it would take to neutralize 99% of electrical attacks.

It should work against small discharges like tasers, but I'm doubtful of its effect on the big lightning blasts we see. An electric eel's electricity tops out around six hundred volts and one ampere. Lightning is three hundred million volts and thirty thousand amperes. It's way more than an electric organ is designed to deal with, it would overload and burn and then the rest of the electricity would function as it normally does for the MC.

I think a better option, now that he can copy monster anatomy, is to see if he can get anything useful from the corpse of one of those lightning monsters that Michael fought. Electricity is that thing's power, but it also had a bunch of anatomical features to help channel it, focusing crystals and energy-storage goo. And unlike the eel, they're designed to handle massive discharges. Hooks those up to some lightning rod growths, and then we're talking.

 

[Sayajin2205]

It should work against small discharges like tasers, but I'm doubtful of its effect on the big lightning blasts we see. An electric eel's electricity tops out around six hundred volts and one ampere. Lightning is three hundred million volts and thirty thousand amperes. It's way more than an electric organ is designed to deal with, it would overload and burn and then the rest of the electricity would function as it normally does for the MC.

I think a better option, now that he can copy monster anatomy, is to see if he can get anything useful from the corpse of one of those lightning monsters that Michael fought. Electricity is that thing's power, but it also had a bunch of anatomical features to help channel it, focusing crystals and energy-storage goo. And unlike the eel, they're designed to handle massive discharges. Hooks those up to some lightning rod growths, and then we're talking.

The problem with that can be MC's base form might reject it and his body would turn back the changes to normal.When mc got the monster heart from Xanthe he also changed other organs but all of the other organs changed back because only the heart was suitable.I might be missing some info tho but that's all I remember.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

The problem with that can be MC's base form might reject it and his body would turn back the changes to normal.When mc got the monster heart from Xanthe his also changed other organs but all of the other organs changed back because only the heart was suitable.I might be missing some info tho but that's all I remember.

Yeah, he probably couldn't integrate it into his base form, at least not yet. I was thinking of it as an addition to his armor. Something mostly external, so he doesn't have to worry about his organs rejecting it.

 

[lorkdubo]

Yeah, he probably couldn't integrate it into his base form, at least not yet. I was thinking of it as an addition to his armor. Something mostly external, so he doesn't have to worry about his organs rejecting it.

He could easily make a faraday cage with his skin or armor. Now, I don't know the levels of volts we are talking about, so the materials involved and the difficulty, I guess, would vary a lot.
Actually, any kind of extremophile ADN material would be overkill for MC.

 

[weezal]

It seems eletricity makes his cells multiply whitout control and then his body explodes, so by itself eletricity helps his regeneration and transformation, the real problem is that he can't stop the process. During his first evolution he was tazed but resisted the effect, according to his words it was a power out of his control because it was not his own power, my view is that with his increased power poll that amount of eletricity was just safely absorbed, i find it very relevant how Mc's power manifests as black lightning, i don't think i'ts for no reason, after all he did get in control of eletricity before safely and used to his advantage.

I forgot about the black lightning. MC definitely has something going on with the electricity

 

[KKStrider]

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

The in-universe logic is at least consistent. All of the things the MC uses, from his armour and weapons to his clothing, are technically a part of his weird supernatural body, and thus respond to its weaknesses no matter what form its been turned into. Anything he wears or uses will dissolve unless integrated into another source of energy to feed it, like another person's body.

It may be a plot convenience, but I wouldn't call it bad writing. It's not even entirely a weakness for the MC. Aside from it being shown that he can take more and more as he grows in power and evolves, by the time he was a peak Level 2 he'd already learned to weaponize it, violently detonating one of Chimera Tertius' heads by letting the electricity it was spewing react with a harpoon he'd launched.

 

[Gtdead]

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

Perhaps but at least it's consistent and the writer doesn't abuse it in his story telling. Beating MC is almost never about electricity.

 

[camube]

i just read the walkthrough, how much different is it between Public Hero playthrough and Public Enemy playthrough?

is it just some different flavor texts here and there, and sparsely at that, or do we get branching events between the two?

 

[Zeca Suez]

Aim dodging is a thing

Like Mr. Miyagi said... best way to not get hit "No be there" .

The in-universe logic is at least consistent. All of the things the MC uses, from his armour and weapons to his clothing, are technically a part of his weird supernatural body, and thus respond to its weaknesses no matter what form its been turned into.

Ya I was going to point out this same thing. Anything created from the MC's body will have all the properties of the target object but at its Core it will still stay connected to the MC and be a part of him. It comes more from the magic part of the monster abilities rather than the science part.
So no matter what he creates to insulate himself against electricity as long as it was produced from his own body it will react to the energy and explode. even if its a golden Lightening rod or a Giant Block of Dense Wood/Asbestos around his whole body.

I was also trying to think of a solution to this same issue months ago fearing we might have to face Met someday. Eels, rays or jellyfish were no help. But I also am all for MC going around absorbing Exotic Monster corpses, a little bit of corruption can't be that bad. The Lightening monster's crystals did look like they could be a useful.

Unlike kryptonite tho electricity I really think will help mc in the future.Electricity rn feels like a fuel which mc just can't control.

I also suspect the solution to the problem of electricity is MC having greater control over his body so he can in a way have absolute command over his cellular structure dominate the smallest part of his being and force it to retain its shape even while being bombarded with energy ... absorb the energy like a little bio battery so it can be reused by the MC or at the very least redirected with minimal damage.

The way electricity makes MC's cells expand and explode reminds me of how the Alien goo reacted to heat in that old "Evolution" movie. Sudden explosive growth.

 

[Zeca Suez]

i just read the walkthrough, how much different is it between Public Hero playthrough and Public Enemy playthrough?

is it just some different flavor texts here and there, and sparsely at that, or do we get branching events between the two?

So far there are no split routes, it does limit some dialogue or who likes you and who doesn't but it doesn't seem to lock you out of any content. Still would suggest making a save before making a choice there and moving on.

 

[camube]

So far there are no split routes, it does limit some dialogue or who likes you and who doesn't but it doesn't seem to lock you out of any content. Still would suggest making a save before making a choice there and moving on.

"by making a save there" where do you mean?
Can I ask where's the branching point between being a Public Enemy and Public Hero?
Is it when he was exposed at the mall or somewhere near there?

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

"by making a save there" where do you mean?
Can I ask where's the branching point between being a Public Enemy and Public Hero?
Is it when he was exposed at the mall or somewhere near there?

You're close. It's during the aftermath of that, when the MC is watching the news to see the public reaction. If you have 200+ Public Opinion, or 150+ Government Opinion, or both, you'll get Public Hero status. Otherwise, you're a Public Enemy. In practice, the point where you're exposed at the mall does serve as a branching point, because killing the cops costs you a ton of both type of Opinion and sparing them gives you a bunch. I know it's not possible to earn enough Opinion points that killing the cops won't guarantee you wind up a Public Enemy even if you were good, but I'm not sure if it works the other way around and sparing them will get enough to guarantee Public Hero.

 

[sexoffended]

He can make tendrils that produce jellyfish toxin, he used it against his first fight with Ella. Which means he can combine his own workings with specific glands or organs; it's not a single nerve or blood vessel, it's a systemic change.

Also, he can alter the chemical makeup of his skin and bodily extensions to a pretty specific degree (sword arms just as an example), making tendrils lined with organic conductors to act as lighting rods then just have an electric energy storage matrix (electric eels power comes from modified muscle) somewhere on his body is something he can do; he's done much more complex mix and matching and none of that is a micro level change.
And that's all it would take to neutralize 99% of electrical attacks.

Producing a portion of a chemical mix at a greater than regular energy cost doesn't indicate that MC is capable of making black tentacles coated in cnidocytes. Poison is being generated supernaturally, without any gland or metabolism involved.

MC's weakness to electricity comes from absorbing it to fuel growth. Both processes are uncontrollable, which produces tumor-like growth and explosion. It has nothing to do with how MC's flesh is structured.

 

[Dasanko]

I hope the AI art aids aren't here to stay in the future seasons/games. I feel it smooths it all a bit too much and it ends up losing its original charm and identity, the characters end up looking too similar to each other.
I don't mind that it was experimented with a bit, but in my opinion, it's nowhere near as good as the original art.