VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Acanthite]

Superhuman and 40k are honestly pretty easy to reconcile. Physics get bent and broken pretty similarly. The only big differences are in the extremes of individuals and scale of setting. Henri is the only person in Superhuman that MIGHT be able to truly harm or change a Chaos god faster than MC could, but he'd still have to do it the slow way outside the Warp, and it would take a really fucking long time because that universe is vastly more populated. Sending him into the Warp is begging for a super-apocalypse. Malik wouldn't do well in there either, he'd lose his shit pretty quick. Bernhardt could delete pretty much anything short of a Chaos god in there, but it all respawns anyway. You can't beat them by killing things unless pretty much everything capable of thought goes extinct.

The serum level 5s could mostly do fine being in the Warp and fighting most things. The highest tiers of demons wouldn't be that different from normal A and S rank monsters. They could bully Nurgle in teams and some could probably do it solo. Anyone lower than level 5 except MC and particularly strong Power/Body/Memory monsters would have to worry about Corruption for sure though. I wouldn't even include Power monsters but WW made it explicitly clear with Indra that it correlates to resisting mental powers/changes which is the only reason Syla lost.

 

[X Deimos]

ehm..i lost count...when do we expect the next update?

 

[braideddavidbrady]

Or... Bernhardt can just somehow prevent the mentioned side effects of using Earth's entire atmosphere against Eisheth. He is, after all, a level 5, which means he is not constrained by the laws of physics.
It's also possible that being in Eisheth's domain - or whatever technique she used - was what prevented those side effects, and is why he didn't use this attack earlier.

you are presenting this as if it was some third option. it's not. it's just the view (2) that i described, phrased differently.
i have nothing against saying that the laws of physics don't apply to Bernhardt. like i said, this is the view i hold.
but if we are saying that they do not apply, then they do not apply, and we can't use them to wank Bernhardt's destructive potential to be infinite because of 'pressure of the universe' or whatever. all i'm saying is we have to be consistent

 

[kazuan]

Or... Bernhardt can just somehow prevent the mentioned side effects of using Earth's entire atmosphere against Eisheth. He is, after all, a level 5, which means he is not constrained by the laws of physics.

I don't remember the wording used to describe the Planck attack(s) but I interpreterad it not as Bernhardt using all of Earths atmosphere/universes "pressure" to crush his targets but rather as Bernhardt generating pressure equivalent to those things while only using a relatively tiny amount of actual gas/atmosphere.

As per Bernhardts wiki trivia:

Planck Pressure is set at 10^113 Pa (pascals). It is the gravitational force of attraction between two equal sized universes all concentrated on one fourth of a Planck Area

There is no source listed for said trivia but assuming it is correct I doubt Bernhardt literally condensed the entire universe onto the MC during the dead end.

do you think Goku is ice level

I've heard of street/planetary level in power scaling but what is ice/tree level?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I don't remember the wording used to describe the Planck attack(s) but I interpreterad it not as Bernhardt using all of Earths atmosphere/universes "pressure" to crush his targets but rather as Bernhardt generating pressure equivalent to those things while only using a relatively tiny amount of actual gas/atmosphere.

This is what the game said about Planck Pressure. Excuse the shitty cropping.

Spoiler: Planck Pressure

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This is the visuals shown during the scene itself.

 

[kazuan]

This is what the game said about Planck Pressure. Excuse the shitty cropping.

Thank you for the source text.

So Bernhardt gathers "winds", stray gasses probably, from between galaxies to charge up his Planck Pressure but launches it as a "spear". Seems more like a pressure washer effect rather than a crushing effect.
But the main point being that he did not use a universe worth of matter for it so he almost certainly did not use a Earth worth of atmosphere to crush Eisheth.

As for the 40k discussion: There was the whole "a blow that reverberates throughout the higher plane". An argument could be made that this means Bernhardt could erase daemons rather than simply killing them and sending them back to The Warp.

 

[Evol_Tendencies]

anyone have a 100% save? i really dont wanna scrub through the game to get missing scenes, its so long at this point lol

 

[TheShelly]

I am tempted to make the argument that Bernie doesn't necessarily have to actually harness matter to produce pressure, but can straight up generate it through his power. He isn't launching a universe's worth of matter at the Eye, but his power is producing that amount of pressure in spite the laws of reality.

 

[Obliviousdemonchild666]

This is what the game said about Planck Pressure. Excuse the shitty cropping.

Spoiler: Planck Pressure

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This is the visuals shown during the scene itself.
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how do you get this scene?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

how do you get this scene?

During Cole fight, choose Life, Resurrection and Eyes while having over 520 Power. The eye will take over.

 

[Ray_D]

This is what the game said about Planck Pressure. Excuse the shitty cropping.

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Live reaction of the eyes:

 

[braideddavidbrady]

I am tempted to make the argument that Bernie doesn't necessarily have to actually harness matter to produce pressure, but can straight up generate it through his power. He isn't launching a universe's worth of matter at the Eye, but his power is producing that amount of pressure in spite the laws of reality.

i might be misremembering, but i recall 'parts of the atmosphere' and the 'entire Earth's atmosphere' being mentioned explicitly in the Eisheth fight. my oldest save doesn't scroll far enough backwards to check. the Bernhardt vs Eye fight I didn't remember well at all so was quoting the original OP i was replying to. either way, planck's pressure is no less ridiculous in this interpretation physics-wise

i think the most plausible fantasy for this is that Bernhardt's power is to control air, hence his 'air blade' attacks, using the atmosphere against Eisheth to create air pressure etc. but similarly to how at lvl 5 Ella could seemingly resist change in her body as a concept, sort of like getting access to the conceptual core of what it means to be a shapeshifter, Bernhardt's lvl 5 boost might have been to be able to wield pressure directly as a concept, which would allow him to use it as a spear

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Live reaction of the eyes:
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The Origin is one of the biggest frauds in the game. All that power and he still jobs against Superhumans. Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if next update, Henri one taps him next. I even hope Nyx, Aglaecwif or Indra do it too.

 

[TheShelly]

i might be misremembering, but i recall 'parts of the atmosphere' and the 'entire Earth's atmosphere' being mentioned explicitly in the Eisheth fight. my oldest save doesn't scroll far enough backwards to check. the Bernhardt vs Eye fight I didn't remember well at all so was quoting the original OP i was replying to. either way, planck's pressure is no less ridiculous in this interpretation physics-wise

i think the most plausible fantasy for this is that Bernhardt's power is to control air, hence his 'air blade' attacks, using the atmosphere against Eisheth to create air pressure etc. but similarly to how at lvl 5 Ella could seemingly resist change in her body as a concept, sort of like getting access to the conceptual core of what it means to be a shapeshifter, Bernhardt's lvl 5 boost might have been to be able to wield pressure directly as a concept, which would allow him to use it as a spear

Alrighty, I went back and checked and here's what I found.


There doesn't seem to be a direct statement that the pressurized gas that Bernie attacks Eis with is just straight up gas from the Earth's atmosphere, only that the amount of it is on the scale of a planetary atmosphere.

Berny also seems to be keeping his 'attack atmosphere' separate from the natural one, probably to avoid natural disasters. Though, if that is so, then there is a funny bit earlier:

We can see in game that the attack definitely affected the environment, so he didn't bother pulling back his attack of "Category 5+ fuckoff typhoon in your face". Guess the damage to Earth's weather wasn't severe enough to warrant it?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Alrighty, I went back and checked and here's what I found.
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There doesn't seem to be a direct statement that the pressurized gas that Bernie attacks Eis with is just straight up gas from the Earth's atmosphere, only that the amount of it is on the scale of a planetary atmosphere.

Berny also seems to be keeping his 'attack atmosphere' separate from the natural one, probably to avoid natural disasters. Though, if that is so, then there is a funny bit earlier:
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We can see in game that the attack definitely affected the environment, so he didn't bother pulling back his attack of "Category 5+ fuckoff typhoon in your face". Guess the damage to Earth's weather wasn't severe enough to warrant it?

For the Pressure Burst: Tempest, he had to destroy Eisheth's world while he was still inside of it. So that much damage was likely unavoidable. I see that move similar to Malik's Core Heat. In the sense that it was so powerful, Hex Dimension broke down briefly. Destroying a mountain on Earth.

 

[Ray_D]

The Origin is one of the biggest frauds in the game. All that power and he still jobs against Superhumans. Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if next update, Henri one taps him next. I even hope Nyx, Aglaecwif or Indra do it too.

Well, WW nerfed the eyes with bad luck. Every time he tries to revive, there's someone more powerful waiting to send him back to sleep.

 

[Chris20]

Well, WW nerfed the eyes with bad luck. Every time he tries to revive, there's someone more powerful waiting to send him back to sleep.

The definition of plot constraints.

 

[DeshaEA]

The powers in the SU universe are not fully explained and like you said, they are not constrained by the laws of physics. Any disscusion about SU vs WH 40K is just a theoretical exercise with incomplete information, however, there are for me some key points that are objetive:

1. A level 5 SU can survive in the 40K universe, there is no question about it.
2. A level 5 SU can at the very least survive the ecounter with a chaos god and escape, some are better adapted to the warp than others though, but all depend of circunstances as well.

Nah, the top tier level 5 might be able to survive an encounter with a chaos god even if I highly doubt that, we just dont have any knowledge about how strong a chaos god really is because outside the warp the powers are mostly summoning demons etc. An "average" level 5 like Elijah or even Ella could never defeat an eldritch abomination with supposedly mind-melting levels of power

 

[Hiro_K]

Veo 3.1
If anyone have images want me to animate tag me and i will see if i can do it, i got free 1 year subscription so it won't cost me anything also since my prompt skills are very bad if you don't want generic "turn this image into video" type of prompt, then send me the image and the prompt

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[johndqdo]

Veo 3.1
If anyone have images want me to animate tag me and i will see if i can do it, i got free 1 year subscription so it won't cost me anything also since my prompt skills are very bad if you don't want you want generic "turn this image into video" type of prompt, then send me the image and the prompt

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Can you make that scene with Aos and that cloud monster? Where he makes a big explosion, the monster escapes and he goes after.