RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.501] [Fujino]

[SixDates]

I mean it more that at that point Suguha seemed to have snapped enough to have just straight-up raped Kirito without remorse and tried to get herself pregnant with his kids, then suddenly adds like an afterthought in a small scene that if you don't look in the rec. room you would completely miss that she's actually just using her ass because she wants their first 'normal sex' to be 'special', it just felt weirdly forced tbh XP

Well, when I was playing that part of the game myself my original thoughts regarding what Suguha was doing were a bit different. I at the very least didn't think that she would have gone and straight-up had sex with Kirito when she initially put the hidden Camara in his room, so I was surprised when we saw the first scene in the recollection room.

At most I was expecting her to give her that classic incestual Hawk Tuah, or the Alabama handshake that only a sort of sister could give.

I didn't love the fact that Fujino made it look like something was happening, only to twist it later with the "it was only rubbing" revelation, but it made sense for me from the perspective of the narrative, as it was too early for Suguha to do something so forward.

And it terms of writing and characterization it depends, the whole excuse of "I want Kirito to be awake for our first time" is not yet something that I wholly buy, but I might end up coming around depending on how Fujino develops Suguha's character.

The way I would personally like her arc to go is that currently her reasoning is just an excuse, and that Suguha knows that what she is doing is morally wrong so she doesn't want to fully rape the person she loves. (Unlike a certain piggy who wouldn't hesitate on raping any hole he comes across if he thought he could get away with it like a dog in heat.)

Then, when she is pushed for whatever plot reason in the future, having her acknowledge the wrongness of her actions but committing to actually having her way with Kirito would be my ideal progression for her.

Of course, most likely Fujino will not go down this path, since if Suguha and Kirito actually go anywhere in the future I can see him simply having Kirito drugged/mentally altered and Suguha taking that as a green light to stick little Kirito on her sisterly oven anytime she wants.




It's so hard to find good Suguha art out there, I can only hope that some greedy studio decides to remake the original SAO anime with the progressive Light Novels/manga, just for new artists to start making more lewds of the series, and that Sugu ends up attracting some talented degenerate.
Either that; or I need to wait until AI stops making mid pieces of bland content in a decade or so.

 

[kinglionheart]

I mean it more that at that point Suguha seemed to have snapped enough to have just straight-up raped Kirito without remorse and tried to get herself pregnant with his kids, then suddenly adds like an afterthought in a small scene that if you don't look in the rec. room you would completely miss that she's actually just using her ass because she wants their first 'normal sex' to be 'special', it just felt weirdly forced tbh XP

I don't think it was a afterthought. I still think he didn't want Suguha to get pregnant but he didn't have a ass penetration scene ready. He could have just said she used a condom and get the same result. Maybe it will result in Kirito having consensual sex with Suguha? Everything about Suguha is weird and open to interpretation. But that is also why is she is the most interesting character is in the game right now.

 

[gaka200]

It SEEMED like she had, but then Fujino seemingly retconned it, apparently she has only done it with her ass yet despite how the scene of her riding her seemed very obviously to have vaginal penetration, so yeah, either that's gonna come back to bite her or is gonna be the mother of all traumas for Kirito. Hopefully the latter XD

I meant like vaginal intercourse did not seem like it happened yet. The anal is something I can't gauge based off what she said. She does mention her butt and that she can make Kirito feel good in other ways, so either she's just rubbing it, or anal. But either way the main vaginal penetration was the thing that didn't happen yet.

I'm not really gonna guess the narrative or story bits, just that with what's said, she wants Kirito conscious for whatever happens. I assume she's ok with having him drugged up, but we'll see.

 

[albakr0ss]

what ya'll think of Inoda coming over to Asuna and Kyoko's house and playing a "game" together. Something wherein winner gets to be called referred to as "master" while in the house. Could lead to a lot of hot scenes no?

 

[gaka200]

what ya'll think of Inoda coming over to Asuna and Kyoko's house and playing a "game" together. Something wherein winner gets to be called referred to as "master" while in the house. Could lead to a lot of hot scenes no?

Depends how things develop in the future I guess, but he'll probably end up getting them to call him master or something at some point once he conquers them.

 

[rangabang]

i really hope kirito finds out everything and beat the shit outta inoda in front of asuna. it'd be so satisfying to watch

People who play ntr games and expect the cuck to win are seriously wack

 

[fobboy]

People who play ntr games and expect the cuck to win are seriously wack

It's like hoping the FMC doesn't fall in a netorare game. All part of the experience.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Well, when I was playing that part of the game myself my original thoughts regarding what Suguha was doing were a bit different. I at the very least didn't think that she would have gone and straight-up had sex with Kirito when she initially put the hidden Camara in his room, so I was surprised when we saw the first scene in the recollection room.

At most I was expecting her to give her that classic incestual Hawk Tuah, or the Alabama handshake that only a sort of sister could give.

I didn't love the fact that Fujino made it look like something was happening, only to twist it later with the "it was only rubbing" revelation, but it made sense for me from the perspective of the narrative, as it was too early for Suguha to do something so forward.

And it terms of writing and characterization it depends, the whole excuse of "I want Kirito to be awake for our first time" is not yet something that I wholly buy, but I might end up coming around depending on how Fujino develops Suguha's character.

The way I would personally like her arc to go is that currently her reasoning is just an excuse, and that Suguha knows that what she is doing is morally wrong so she doesn't want to fully rape the person she loves. (Unlike a certain piggy who wouldn't hesitate on raping any hole he comes across if he thought he could get away with it like a dog in heat.)

Then, when she is pushed for whatever plot reason in the future, having her acknowledge the wrongness of her actions but committing to actually having her way with Kirito would be my ideal progression for her.

Of course, most likely Fujino will not go down this path, since if Suguha and Kirito actually go anywhere in the future I can see him simply having Kirito drugged/mentally altered and Suguha taking that as a green light to stick little Kirito on her sisterly oven anytime she wants.


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It's so hard to find good Suguha art out there, I can only hope that some greedy studio decides to remake the original SAO anime with the progressive Light Novels/manga, just for new artists to start making more lewds of the series, and that Sugu ends up attracting some talented degenerate.
Either that; or I need to wait until AI stops making mid pieces of bland content in a decade or so.

I mean, it's a NTR Fujino game, even during the 'change' Suguha experienced in her route I never even once remotely entertained she would act in any logical or reasonable way, or moral, so the fact she actually genuinely DOES, and has visible shown, to care and love for Kazuto unlike everyone else in this game, legit doesn't mind at all the fact he doesn't have a god-dick or nigh-unlimited sexual stamina, actually shocked me if in a good way.

That say she's STILL a psycho yandere who talks about the other girls in her Onii-chan's life as if they were obstacles she has to remove and that is raping him wherever she can, so no, I don't think there is anything really moral left in her XD (WE may see her inner thoughts towards the other girls as a non-issue, but as a reminder SHE doesn't know yet they're all legit scum in-universe, she just wants them out of the way without giving a shit about their feelings to have Kazuto all to herself, she would be thinking the same if they were legit as nice or in love as they were in Canon, so no, Sugu is also very fucked up here XP)

And it's hilarious you say that about AI, I honestly have been seeing a lot of, at least in my opinion, great or at the very least very decent AI art of Suguha lately in Pixiv, honestly the sad reality is that she's quite unpopular compared to the other main heroines, especially outside Japan, so I wouldn't count on ANY official adaptation making people more interested in her, hell if anything we would get 99% more Asuna content especially if they adapted more Canon things, she's massively sidelined there after all (Though, as a fun fact, in Hentai she's quite popular, she has the most H-doujins after Asuna and is the second one to have the most with Kirito after her by a noticeable margin compared to even the more popular other heroines, lol).

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I don't think it was a afterthought. I still think he didn't want Suguha to get pregnant but he didn't have a ass penetration scene ready. He could have just said she used a condom and get the same result. Maybe it will result in Kirito having consensual sex with Suguha? Everything about Suguha is weird and open to interpretation. But that is also why is she is the most interesting character is in the game right now.

You didn't get me, I wasn't specifically talking about the scene itself, but more of Suguha's attitude/reactions in the actual story...hell, as I mentioned, the scene where you ACTUALLY find out she hasn't actually been fucking him with her pussy yet is a minor thing that if you don't watch her rec. room you CAN completely miss, at least so far, it's not mentioned anywhere in the story at all, so it seems VERY afterthought-like given how it seems like a big deal plot-wise XD Hell, if that scene didn't exist I'm sure you can agree EVERYONE going through the main story so far would be convinced she had been riding him raw to have her womb filled every single time she could, because the story and her attitude literally don't hint at anything else, certainly not to that overly specific restraint when she's already, you know, raping him while he's out of it and recording herself to masturbate to it later lol

 

[Kazuto123]

I mean, it's a NTR Fujino game, even during the 'change' Suguha experienced in her route I never even once remotely entertained she would act in any logical or reasonable way, or moral, so the fact she actually genuinely DOES, and has visible shown, to care and love for Kazuto unlike everyone else in this game, legit doesn't mind at all the fact he doesn't have a god-dick or nigh-unlimited sexual stamina, actually shocked me if in a good way.

That say she's STILL a psycho yandere who talks about the other girls in her Onii-chan's life as if they were obstacles she has to remove and that is raping him wherever she can, so no, I don't think there is anything really moral left in her XD (WE may see her inner thoughts towards the other girls as a non-issue, but as a reminder SHE doesn't know yet they're all legit scum in-universe, she just wants them out of the way without giving a shit about their feelings to have Kazuto all to herself, she would be thinking the same if they were legit as nice or in love as they were in Canon, so no, Sugu is also very fucked up here XP)

And it's hilarious you say that about AI, I honestly have been seeing a lot of, at least in my opinion, great or at the very least very decent AI art of Suguha lately in Pixiv, honestly the sad reality is that she's quite unpopular compared to the other main heroines, especially outside Japan, so I wouldn't count on ANY official adaptation making people more interested in her, hell if anything we would get 99% more Asuna content especially if they adapted more Canon things, she's massively sidelined there after all (Though, as a fun fact, in Hentai she's quite popular, she has the most H-doujins after Asuna and is the second one to have the most with Kirito after her by a noticeable margin compared to even the more popular other heroines, lol).

What Suguha is not very popular in the girls rankings in Japan and outside of Japan? It seemed to me that Suguha (Leafa) is the most popular female character together with Asuna, Shino and Alice in the ranking. When it comes to hentai doujinshi and manga, it is true that she is very popular and there are many, after Asuna, and Shino (Sinon) after Suguha. Hentai doujinshi and manga you mean on the nhentai website, right? Because on the Hentai E-gallery website there are even more, because there are various hentai about the character, e.g. image, art, etc.
Can you show me information about the popularity ranking of SAO characters?

 

[SixDates]

And it's hilarious you say that about AI, I honestly have been seeing a lot of, at least in my opinion, great or at the very least very decent AI art of Suguha lately in Pixiv,

When it comes to what one can consider good art, pornography more than anything, everything is very subjective. What is a good comedy? Perhaps to me seeing an Inoda shaped human getting hit by a comicadically large truck might be the peak of comedy, easily getting a laughter out of me, while to others lucky enough to have never seen the piggy, they most likely wouldn't share my opinion.
At the end of the day, good porn is the piece that manages to excite you the most.

And to me, 99 times out of 100, AI hentai is unfappable due to how boring it looks.
It is certainly impressive how the plagiarizing machine is capable of giving us such polished works, but I cannot help but finding them completely bland at the end of the day.

Spoiler: An example or two

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The quality of those pictures is certainly good, a few issues here or there, but they are objectively well generated.

And I don’t know why, perhaps how streamlined and smooth it looks, perhaps the lack of dynamism in the style, or maybe even the fact that I know a program generated the imagines in 4 seconds, but I cannot feel a single tiny bit excited while looking at them.

Of course, there are AI works that I do enjoy out there.

Spoiler: A good example

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Fujino's work with his 3d models is undoubtedly a lot more 'flawed' in terms of artwork, consistency, and many other subjects one uses to judge a piece of work. Yet, even just looking at his scenes from the CG folder is more than enough to get me going.
Perhaps it's the human element that manages to influence my subconscious into acting unwise.


Even a simple sketch of Suguha is infinitely more enjoyable for me than even the most well-crafted piece of plagiarized AI content.
So far at the very least, give it 5 or so more years and who knows what the computers will be cooking.

Perhaps every denizen of the internet will be able to request an immediate piece of art of Inoda stubbing his toes against furniture while crying, simply by clicking a button.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

When it comes to what one can consider good art, pornography more than anything, everything is very subjective. What is a good comedy? Perhaps to me seeing an Inoda shaped human getting hit by a comicadically large truck might be the peak of comedy, easily getting a laughter out of me, while to others lucky enough to have never seen the piggy, they most likely wouldn't share my opinion.
At the end of the day, good porn is the piece that manages to excite you the most.

And to me, 99 times out of 100, AI hentai is unfappable due to how boring it looks.
It is certainly impressive how the plagiarizing machine is capable of giving us such polished works, but I cannot help but finding them completely bland at the end of the day.

Spoiler: An example or two

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The quality of those pictures is certainly good, a few issues here or there, but they are objectively well generated.

And I don’t know why, perhaps how streamlined and smooth it looks, perhaps the lack of dynamism in the style, or maybe even the fact that I know a program generated the imagines in 4 seconds, but I cannot feel a single tiny bit excited while looking at them.

Of course, there are AI works that I do enjoy out there.

Spoiler: A good example

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Fujino's work with his 3d models is undoubtedly a lot more 'flawed' in terms of artwork, consistency, and many other subjects one uses to judge a piece of work. Yet, even just looking at his scenes from the CG folder is more than enough to get me going.
Perhaps it's the human element that manages to influence my subconscious into acting unwise.

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Even a simple sketch of Suguha is infinitely more enjoyable for me than even the most well-crafted piece of plagiarized AI content.
So far at the very least, give it 5 or so more years and who knows what the computers will be cooking.

Perhaps every denizen of the internet will be able to request an immediate piece of art of Inoda stubbing his toes against furniture while crying, simply by clicking a button.

Yeah, then I'm sorry to say it's 100% either subjective or a you-thing there, I find those AI arts you mentioned infinitely hotter than the Sugu sketch there, even if it's from an hilarious classic XP Everyone has their own likes though, so there is nothing really wrong with that ^_^

 

[4-kun]

When it comes to what one can consider good art, pornography more than anything, everything is very subjective. What is a good comedy? Perhaps to me seeing an Inoda shaped human getting hit by a comicadically large truck might be the peak of comedy, easily getting a laughter out of me, while to others lucky enough to have never seen the piggy, they most likely wouldn't share my opinion.
At the end of the day, good porn is the piece that manages to excite you the most.

And to me, 99 times out of 100, AI hentai is unfappable due to how boring it looks.
It is certainly impressive how the plagiarizing machine is capable of giving us such polished works, but I cannot help but finding them completely bland at the end of the day.

Spoiler: An example or two

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The quality of those pictures is certainly good, a few issues here or there, but they are objectively well generated.

And I don’t know why, perhaps how streamlined and smooth it looks, perhaps the lack of dynamism in the style, or maybe even the fact that I know a program generated the imagines in 4 seconds, but I cannot feel a single tiny bit excited while looking at them.

Of course, there are AI works that I do enjoy out there.

Spoiler: A good example

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Fujino's work with his 3d models is undoubtedly a lot more 'flawed' in terms of artwork, consistency, and many other subjects one uses to judge a piece of work. Yet, even just looking at his scenes from the CG folder is more than enough to get me going.
Perhaps it's the human element that manages to influence my subconscious into acting unwise.

View attachment 4035556
Even a simple sketch of Suguha is infinitely more enjoyable for me than even the most well-crafted piece of plagiarized AI content.
So far at the very least, give it 5 or so more years and who knows what the computers will be cooking.

Perhaps every denizen of the internet will be able to request an immediate piece of art of Inoda stubbing his toes against furniture while crying, simply by clicking a button.

I think there's a certain bias against AI-generated art because people know it wasn’t made by a human. Plus, basic AI often has that unnatural glare effect. But the real issue is that most artists just use AI to get quick results instead of putting in the work and using it as a tool. A few years ago, a photographer won an award but didn’t accept it because the photo was AI-generated. He had worked so much on it that even experts couldn’t tell, so I’d say it really depends.

Btw, I also like the AI pics more. The other one is just a sketch. Without context, I probably couldn’t even tell that’s Suguha at first glance. But I get your point, it's a bit RNG with ai-art.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I think there's a certain bias against AI-generated art because people know it wasn’t made by a human. Plus, basic AI often has that unnatural glare effect. But the real issue is that most artists just use AI to get quick results instead of putting in the work and using it as a tool. A few years ago, a photographer won an award but didn’t accept it because the photo was AI-generated. He had worked so much on it that even experts couldn’t tell, so I’d say it really depends.

Btw, I also like the AI pics more. The other one is just a sketch. Without context, I probably couldn’t even tell that’s Suguha at first glance. But I get your point, it's a bit RNG with ai-art.

As you said, it really depends, for example years ago people were completely against and shitting on Koikatsu works coming out, even Hentai ones which were, obviously, its primary source of content, because it was a 3D anime-like program and not 'real art'...nowadays, while still disliked by some, it's not only massively accepted but borderline artistic in many circles and levels, and we even get lots of games like the Fujino ones that are entirely made using KK models and scenes (You can find tons of them regularly on these forums in fact=, which wouldn't have been possible if it had died off like so many people seemed to want at the beginning, if it did Fujino could have never been an H-game creator, so yeah, I would say give AI a chance because you never know how things can change 10 or even just 5 years from now, I myself have already played at least one H-RPG Maker game using fully AI-generated art that I honestly found very enjoyable if not complex in the slightest XP

Also, to enhance your 'enjoyment' of the sketch, if you try and look to the side, you will see mini-chibis that are supposed to be Asuna, Liz, and Silica trying to tell Kirito that Suguha is obviously awake and just pretending to be online so she can enjoy him fucking her while awake XD (More context would require explaining the whole mini-doujin, and at that point is better to go read it yourself )

 

[Aniky Light]

i really hope kirito finds out everything and beat the shit outta inoda in front of asuna. it'd be so satisfying to watch

Exactly, just stop humiliating the protagonist all the time and it's time to give that fat guy a good lesson

 

[kinglionheart]

You didn't get me, I wasn't specifically talking about the scene itself, but more of Suguha's attitude/reactions in the actual story...hell, as I mentioned, the scene where you ACTUALLY find out she hasn't actually been fucking him with her pussy yet is a minor thing that if you don't watch her rec. room you CAN completely miss, at least so far, it's not mentioned anywhere in the story at all, so it seems VERY afterthought-like given how it seems like a big deal plot-wise XD Hell, if that scene didn't exist I'm sure you can agree EVERYONE going through the main story so far would be convinced she had been riding him raw to have her womb filled every single time she could, because the story and her attitude literally don't hint at anything else, certainly not to that overly specific restraint when she's already, you know, raping him while he's out of it and recording herself to masturbate to it later lol

Okay you meant how inconsequential that reveal was. Considering only she knows she is riding Kirito regularly, that little but important detail for meant for us the player. So like some other details Fujino makes it is one of those things only people who actually care about his story would know.

The main story is through Kirito's POV so him not getting any hints about this makes sense. It would be funny if there were scenes where whenever Suguha was jealous she would think her riding her onii-chan but he can't hear her.

 

[kinglionheart]

i really hope kirito finds out everything and beat the shit outta inoda in front of asuna. it'd be so satisfying to watch

Exactly, just stop humiliating the protagonist all the time and it's time to give that fat guy a good lesson

That would be a fun twist but most likely won't happen in the main game. Maybe in a weird dream sequence like the BBC Asuna one or a bonus ending Fujino might make due to fan request.

 

[SixDates]

That would be a fun twist but most likely won't happen in the main game. Maybe in a weird dream sequence like the BBC Asuna one

Something that makes me hate the conglomerate of clogged arteries that is the fatso of Inoda, besides all his negative traits, is how he is so mean and vindictive against Kirito for really no reason at all, beyond being Asuna's boyfriend and better looking than his war-crime of pimple-ridden face.

Kirito would currently never dream of beating up Inoda, nor does he wish for anything bad to happen to him, even when he is third-wheeling his entire relationship like he was the inventor of the tricycle.

Sure, he thought of Fatsoda as someone fat and ugly a couple times, but beyond that Kirito has been quite good to Inoda at every opportunity, even trying to help him get along with Liz when he thought he had a crush on her.

So when I see how one-sided Inoda's hatred for Kirito is, I cannot help but dislike him even more than he already deserves.

 

[Aniky Light]

That would be a fun twist but most likely won't happen in the main game. Maybe in a weird dream sequence like the BBC Asuna one or a bonus ending Fujino might make due to fan request.

well, just make a short alternate cutscene without adding it into the game

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Something that makes me hate the conglomerate of clogged arteries that is the fatso of Inoda, besides all his negative traits, is how he is so mean and vindictive against Kirito for really no reason at all, beyond being Asuna's boyfriend and better looking than his war-crime of pimple-ridden face.

Kirito would currently never dream of beating up Inoda, nor does he wish for anything bad to happen to him, even when he is third-wheeling his entire relationship like he was the inventor of the tricycle.

Sure, he thought of Fatsoda as someone fat and ugly a couple times, but beyond that Kirito has been quite good to Inoda at every opportunity, even trying to help him get along with Liz when he thought he had a crush on her.

So when I see how one-sided Inoda's hatred for Kirito is, I cannot help but dislike him even more than he already deserves.

Yeah, Inoda really is the worst possible combination of traits for a NTR MC, at least Fujino's NTR Chads didn't make it their life missions to specifically obsessively hate the MC for no reason at all, they actually focus on fucking the girls more, Inoda sometimes seems as obsessed with hating Kirito's guts for being one of the only persons in the world to ever try to be nice to him as he's with stealing his wife, lol.