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Kinvarus

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Oh I know the tag system here and how it works, and you're right it is a flawed system that's why I personally don't base on if a game is abandoned or not by the tag, I go based on say the game's pateron page for example and when the last update was.

Case and point the last chapter of Being A Dik took nearly a year to come out if I'm not mistaken and if Pinkcake didn't give weekly updates, that would have had an abandoned tag slapped on it long ago even though it wasn't.

I will admit I didn't know he has paused payments on the Pateron page but that's what I go by and not necessarily the tag so when I see the last post was November, it's now June and nothing, that's when I start wondering if it's been abandoned or not.


I don't blame him about the thread and the forum, but for the people who aren't being dicks and are fans of the game, he might think it's just words at this point, I think he'd be surprised at how him or you with permission just coming in here and saying "Yeah he's still working on it." how far that would go.


But can certainly appreciate that you only share what Hopes wants you to share, and his opinion is his own obviously and if that's how he wants to go about it so be it.

Hope I didn't come across as being a dick or anything with my post, and thanks for taking the time to reply.
 

Bill521

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Given you've tagged me, guess I'll try to respond to some of your post;


Correction, people "were" paying him.
After making that last Patreon post, he paused (or suspended) all Patreon payments.

With discord, it's not a platform that I use the most (out of all social media platforms), but generally if the dev is quite active on discord server, fans of the games can get quite a bit of new information which may not typically be available even on Patreon.
So if a person doesn't want to join discord, well it's on them and they can't go complaining "Why isn't this info available in Y" etc etc. Cause that's just the advantage of the platform.
This isn't to say that Hopes is currently active on discord; so to those tempted don't go complaining to me saying "You deceived me!" etc lol. All I am saying are merely benefits of joining discord compared to those that don't.



That won't really make any difference.
Every info that I revealed until now, I only have revealed after getting permission from Hopes anyway.
Any info which Hopes gives me the OK to share, I share here.
The rest (which he may have revealed to me), it's pretty much given he wishes to keep it to himself so I keep quiet about.
So only difference would be just the "title/position" of Community person, which I never really cared about.

And yes, for those who are in Hopes' discord already know I am one of the Proofreaders for DeLuca (along with Wibble, who is the main proofreader), but that's because Hopes wanted to give me that position for proofreading substantial part voluntarily, not because I wanted the Proofreader role lol

In the end, I'll still be limited in what I can reveal based on what Hopes says (which obviously is his right), so there would be no changes.



"the reason people think it's abandoned is because he hasn't said anything about it in 7 months, even on his pateron."

That's not the reason.
The reason why people think it's abandoned is the Prefix/Tag system on this site (referring to the Uploading Rules section 3 Prefixes).
Most people on this site don't even understand why the tag is applied, & when they see it they just assume it's abandoned (the fact that it's so hard to find certainly don't help things lol).

Hence, I find it is a very flawed system which doesn't take into account dev's irl personal situations; it only misrepresents actual positions of devs by just sticking the label after 3 months while fanning the flame for the trolls to infest the said game's thread to well..... talk crap, in which thread's state often becomes a dumpster fire.
It happened to this thread after getting the "abandoned" tag got slapped on, & it's the same with a lot of other games which got abandoned tag as well.

As for the whole how often the dev gives status updates; well, yeah there is no doubt he could have done a lot better in terms of his communications - and I did mention to him it may have been better off just giving a one or two sentence irl status as you said (this was early this year actually).
His response was, "Yeah, I was good at communication, until I wasn't. Can only strive to be better in the future."

As for why he doesn't make status update posts now (on Patreon, Discord, f95zone), well he's already aware of how this thread is on this site lol.
But regardless, he feels pointless to just say stuff cause he feels they will just merely be words at this point & he wish to back them up with something tangible when he says something.

Hence, you may not agree with it, but that's the way he's going about it.
Expect him to be active on all platforms when he's ready to release the next update.
But until then, he's content to let people think what they wish to think about the game's status.
Any chance you can offer the following template to Hopes for him to just punch in a few numbers or delete lines and show progress is happening once in a while? (on Patreon or Discord I'm not expecting him to post here)

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Krytax123

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Any chance people can stop fussing over entirely meaningless numbers?
Occassional render progress update reports are not at all meaningless.

But to expect someone to bring this message to the dev and to think the dev wouldnt be doing that anyway if he wanted to and to expect it from a dev who is hyper silent is indeed nonsensical.
 

Jeeva hulk

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What would be the difference if we buy the game from steam or download here? Will dev continue the game or will it be abandoned forever?
 

c3p0

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What would be the difference if we buy the game from steam or download here?
In the first case you pay Steam and the dev some money, in the later you pay neither of them any money.
Will dev continue the game or will it be abandoned forever?
In the sparse statement from the dev, he stated that he is working on it and have never "abandoned" it. It is the zone, based on its rules, that have marked it as such here.
If it is truth or not (that the dev is still working on it), each need to decide it for their own.
 
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Okyturi

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hey, havent played this gem for couple years? probably. Last scene I remember was this, did anything new happened or that steam release is just release of old content and maybe changing something that steam wouldnt like?
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Black Orchid

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hey, havent played this gem for couple years? probably. Last scene I remember was this, did anything new happened or that steam release is just release of old content and maybe changing something that steam wouldnt like?
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there has been no new content for 707 days
 

c3p0

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hey, havent played this gem for couple years? probably. Last scene I remember was this, did anything new happened or that steam release is just release of old content and maybe changing something that steam wouldnt like?
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Can't be that bad otherwise we would already know what happen to her.:sneaky::whistle:
 
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2016Mark

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Is there a season 1 mod?
I have completed the game without one. would like to explore the other options without having to grind again.
 

7empest5teele

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Oh no no no NO!
I come back here since I finally have time to devote to this story, only to be kicked in the heart, finding out there will be no more expansion of this world.
I know i am saying things that many have already done so before me, but this truly is heartbreaking to find out.
 
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Modhunter

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Love the story, and the luna part made me cringe, holy shit, great storytelling .... like that hurt. But take as long as you need but dont cut it off. I and others will glady wait for the continuation but , I am thinking of staring a relief fund for all the avn creators because they seem to have the worst IRL luck on the planet. I am an old bastard and I don't know anybody in my cricle or family that has had as many issues that the patreon authors on this site. Maybye they are being targeted, if so there should be some kind of defense force.
 

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Love the story, and the luna part made me cringe, holy shit, great storytelling .... like that hurt. But take as long as you need but dont cut it off. I and others will glady wait for the continuation but , I am thinking of staring a relief fund for all the avn creators because they seem to have the worst IRL luck on the planet. I am an old bastard and I don't know anybody in my cricle or family that has had as many issues that the patreon authors on this site. Maybye they are being targeted, if so there should be some kind of defense force.
Creativity is highly correlated with poor mental health.
 
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camube

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so is hopes working on the game full time or has he gone back to working full time job?

anybody knows?
 
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