Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[JJJ84]

It was almost 9 months ago since I read it, so honestly, I don't remember almost anything from that conversation, just Luna with the ice cream.

Neither I was aware of MC's having a rival, whatever that means. Rival in the family, outside the family, rival for a love interest, rival in his mobile game competition.... so many alternatives.

I do remember young Cordia, as I think she is the most beautiful character in the novel. Absolutely adorable!!!

It's been awhile since I played that event as well, but I'm finding the Gallery feature in the main menu really helpful.
If I just want to find an event I want to watch again, it's just so easy to find.

My original intent was to take a look at conversation between MC, Jalen, Luna & Gracie in the park and thought of skipping the whole Kaskar Family interrogation room scene (with fast skip). But it's basically the first scene of "The Kaskar Family" event, and I was curious as to whether I can get some more clues etc.

With the rival, I could be totally off the mark, but since it involves not just one, but all 4 Serpents, I think it's possibly the current Serpents are training/grooming both MC & the rival to become their successors. And what better way to train them than to throw them into a harsh environment such as mountain/forest in Bear Grylls style

I still remember Giocabbe's flashback scene of young Cordia in the blizzard (like her nickname "The Blizzard Queen"). That was simply glorious.

 

[SuperLYC]

of course regarding MC, Luna, Gracie, Jalen should they become next generation of Serpents):

I wonder what quality Mc has can make him a serpent. Maybe social skills and indecent mind?
I know Wilfred highly rated Mc but still can't see him as good as Luna or Gracie, even Antonio. Maybe Mc will go through some special moments and fully inspir his his potential?

 

[JJJ84]

I wonder what quality Mc has can make him a serpent. Maybe social skills and indecent mind?
I know Wilfred highly rated Mc but still can't see him as good as Luna or Gracie, even Antonio. Maybe Mc will go through some special moments and fully inspir his his potential?

Hopes has said that MC will be evolving (with events etc) as he rises in his rank (he's only soldado now).

 

[TundraLupus]

Hopes has said that MC will be evolving (with events etc) as he rises in his rank (he's only soldado now).

Isn't he an Elite Soldado if you finish the event?

 

[SuperLYC]

Isn't he an Elite Soldado if you finish the event?

Rank 9 or 10 and I think it's just Soldado. Still a long way to go

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

Hey, thanks for letting me know! I already downloaded it (booo) but have no idea what is going on, so was going to start over anyways, lol. Maybe I'll just wait.

Honestly if you have the time and don't mind starting again in version 0.7 ( or later ) Version 6.5 is definitely worth playing,
if the screenshot consists of your "latest saves" there is quite a lot more content too. The reason your 6.5 saves might not be compatible in future versions is because Hopesgaming wants to upgrade the missions system, gameplay and GUI (I'm really looking forward to that)
Anyways there is a lot of story and a hot scene for you to discover if you decide to.
Since you said you just got back to VN's if you are strictly looking for more adult content I'd skip this for now, but this story is absolutely amazing and there's a lot of fun to be had.

I wonder what quality Mc has can make him a serpent. Maybe social skills and indecent mind?
I know Wilfred highly rated Mc but still can't see him as good as Luna or Gracie, even Antonio. Maybe Mc will go through some special moments and fully inspir his his potential?

Yeah, I feel like we are a little behind in MCs progression probably because of creative decisions as mentioned above ^^
I wonder if we see more of those crews with the "elegant Caterina" or Angelo. Could be a lot of fun, the whole story 9 scene was amazing. I definitely hope for more of that.

Isn't he an Elite Soldado if you finish the event?

No, that was a bug in earlier versions than 6.5 and got fixed. You can still get above level 10 ( which is were you became Elite Soldato ) I think there will be some promotion scene or event for that ( maybe in next update )

 

[TundraLupus]

Rank 9 or 10 and I think it's just Soldado. Still a long way to go

No, that was a bug in earlier versions than 6.5 and got fixed. You can still get above level 10 ( which is were you became Elite Soldato ) I think there will be some promotion scene or event for that ( maybe in next update )

Yeah I re-downloaded the game to check, I believe rank 10 is elite Soldado since it is marked as unknown rank right now, and probably will change once the promotion event/mission happens so basically he is on the verge of graduation, or maybe that is a bug because my save is old.

 

[JJJ84]

Yeah I re-downloaded the game to check, I believe rank 10 is elite Soldado since it is marked as unknown rank right now, and probably will change once the promotion event/mission happens so basically he is on the verge of graduation, or maybe that is a bug because my save is old.

Hmm perhaps we might just get a promotion event after Eiza's sister stealth mission event.
Guessing we'll be getting these for each rank, though I do wonder how each of them will differ from the first Soldado promotion event (Blackie's speech in soldados promotion was something specific for a newbie entering the mafia family, so I'm guessing his speech from now on will be something specific to that rank).

 

[TundraLupus]

Hmm perhaps we might just get a promotion event after Eiza's sister stealth mission event.
Guessing we'll be getting these for each rank, though I do wonder how each of them will differ from the first Soldado promotion event (Blackie's speech in soldados promotion was something specific for a newbie entering the mafia family, so I'm guessing his speech from now on will be something specific to that rank).

probably, but I'm thinking it will be a mission to prove yourself and then just a "congrats, here is your new uniform and responsibilities", but i have the feeling that the next rank will only come after the bugs are discussed.

 

[SuperLYC]

MC solve Gracie lsabel problem and confirmed lsabel not cheating. And then it is the same guy persuade Isabel into an affair with him. What an ass , but I'd like to see Gracie vs Mc if she discover what happened , that could be a slaughter

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

probably, but I'm thinking it will be a mission to prove yourself and then just a "congrats, here is your new uniform and responsibilities", but i have the feeling that the next rank will only come after the bugs are discussed.

I'm not sure why everyone got so hung up on those bugs, I've seen the discussions that took place about them in the last couple of pages of the thread and as entertaining as all those scenarios were I sincerely doubt it will become as big of a deal as some imagine it. Aside from the fact that they were heavily used for the development of story progression. I also think a lot of the projected outcomes were selling the ladies short on their reasoning abilities.

Just like when Luna caught MC in her room after planting the bug, she accepted MC being there because she understood his motives. Something that seemed to be forgotten in all the arguments was MC's motives for planting them in the first place.

3 assassination attempts. While being under contract for the DeLuca's, in their care/custody/protection. In their car, at their dining room table, in their house! Sounds like one hell of a sympathy card to guilt trip any of them. Which after the event were you ask Wilfred about Luna's past, she gets angry with you and you follow Pops advice and pretend to be angry with her (Hell, Wilfred in all his scheming even supports that act like a real "bro" or it's just out of his curiosity to see you handle yourself with him you never know for sure...) ( This scene was pure gold by the way! Thanks Pops!)

Anyways, considering that "scene" and others we know our MC has "game" flavored with a certain degree of manipulation perhaps if need be. All that is speculation on the fact that the bugs will be found however. ( which I somehow doubt )

Now I also saw it suggested that the all knowing Wilfred might even know about the bugs in this case he could do the same ( be a bro ) and remove the bugs before they are found it's not something that I would put beyond him cause he seems to enjoy steering the MC into different situations or point you into certain directions cause he feels like you need to "grow" throughout the story he definitely "molds" you. Damn he is terrifying.

But hey, what ever will be will be. I can see Hopes enjoying all the speculation and having a lot fun actually writing it and have us all surprised. I just don't think it will be that soon.

(PS. Video camera's or go home pussies! simply cause of the fact how would you ever catch someone creeping around? planting false evidence setting someone up if there isn't a conversation taking place audio recordings are useless)

 

[TundraLupus]

I'm not sure why everyone got so hung up on those bugs, I've seen the discussions that took place about them in the last couple of pages of the thread and as entertaining as all those scenarios were I sincerely doubt it will become as big of a deal as some imagine it. Aside from the fact that they were heavily used for the development of story progression. I also think a lot of the projected outcomes were selling the ladies short on their reasoning abilities.

Just like when Luna caught MC in her room after planting the bug, she accepted MC being there because she understood his motives. Something that seemed to be forgotten in all the arguments was MC's motives for planting them in the first place.

3 assassination attempts. While being under contract for the DeLuca's, in their care/custody/protection. In their car, at their dining room table, in their house! Sounds like one hell of a sympathy card to guilt trip any of them. Which after the event were you ask Wilfred about Luna's past, she gets angry with you and you follow Pops advice and pretend to be angry with her (Hell, Wilfred in all his scheming even supports that act like a real "bro" or it's just out of his curiosity to see you handle yourself with him you never know for sure...) ( This scene was pure gold by the way! Thanks Pops!)

Anyways, considering that "scene" and others we know our MC has "game" flavored with a certain degree of manipulation perhaps if need be. All that is speculation on the fact that the bugs will be found however. ( which I somehow doubt )

Now I also saw it suggested that the all knowing Wilfred might even know about the bugs in this case he could do the same ( be a bro ) and remove the bugs before they are found it's not something that I would put beyond him cause he seems to enjoy steering the MC into different situations or point you into certain directions cause he feels like you need to "grow" throughout the story he definitely "molds" you. Damn he is terrifying.

But hey, what ever will be will be. I can see Hopes enjoying all the speculation and having a lot fun actually writing it and have us all surprised. I just don't think it will be that soon.

(PS. Video camera's or go home pussies! simply cause of the fact how would you ever catch someone creeping around? planting false evidence setting someone up if there isn't a conversation taking place audio recordings are useless)

Yeah in those discussions I mostly made the same point, and to me the after reading and remembering that Wilfred does comment on everything else you buy it became a given that he knows, and if he knows Cordia probably knows, so even if one of the other wants to stir shit they would intervene, but I was meaning more on the Mc being "Okay, I trust you guys enough now to come clean about this", and being a shown of thrust for both parts, the family in accepting him in a higher position, and him accepting that they are not his enemies. Maybe this would be saved for a future Ranking though.

About Wilfred removing the bugs himself, I don't think that is how he works, is more likely that he would leave them for the Mc to do something about it, and then wait and see if the Mc can get out of whatever mess we put him through, and if not, then intervene with Cordia.

 

[gaxos]

My rank never goes beyond 4 and says "you reached max experience points for this version of the game" and also that a promotion is available but there is no promotion in the events page as i am assuming i need to be level 5. Played both with or without cheats. here is the save

 

[JJJ84]

I'm not sure why everyone got so hung up on those bugs, I've seen the discussions that took place about them in the last couple of pages of the thread and as entertaining as all those scenarios were I sincerely doubt it will become as big of a deal as some imagine it. Aside from the fact that they were heavily used for the development of story progression. I also think a lot of the projected outcomes were selling the ladies short on their reasoning abilities.

Just like when Luna caught MC in her room after planting the bug, she accepted MC being there because she understood his motives. Something that seemed to be forgotten in all the arguments was MC's motives for planting them in the first place.

3 assassination attempts. While being under contract for the DeLuca's, in their care/custody/protection. In their car, at their dining room table, in their house! Sounds like one hell of a sympathy card to guilt trip any of them. Which after the event were you ask Wilfred about Luna's past, she gets angry with you and you follow Pops advice and pretend to be angry with her (Hell, Wilfred in all his scheming even supports that act like a real "bro" or it's just out of his curiosity to see you handle yourself with him you never know for sure...) ( This scene was pure gold by the way! Thanks Pops!)

Anyways, considering that "scene" and others we know our MC has "game" flavored with a certain degree of manipulation perhaps if need be. All that is speculation on the fact that the bugs will be found however. ( which I somehow doubt )

Now I also saw it suggested that the all knowing Wilfred might even know about the bugs in this case he could do the same ( be a bro ) and remove the bugs before they are found it's not something that I would put beyond him cause he seems to enjoy steering the MC into different situations or point you into certain directions cause he feels like you need to "grow" throughout the story he definitely "molds" you. Damn he is terrifying.

But hey, what ever will be will be. I can see Hopes enjoying all the speculation and having a lot fun actually writing it and have us all surprised. I just don't think it will be that soon.

(PS. Video camera's or go home pussies! simply cause of the fact how would you ever catch someone creeping around? planting false evidence setting someone up if there isn't a conversation taking place audio recordings are useless)

I don't know about that. Luna was only forgiving to MC because she didn't see him plant the bug (all she thought he was doing was just snooping around, which in her mind wasn't too big of an offense). She probably wouldn't have been as understanding/forgiving if she was realizing he was planting bugs in her room.

I still think if MC gets caught (regarding the bugs, though whether bugs actually have impact on story or not is yet to be determined), he'll get some sort of punishment (or he would have to do something for the girls to make up for his actions as an alternative).
Sure, he can try to guilt-trip them saying he was targetted 3 times, but it doesn't change the fact he was spying on them.

It may have been reasonable in MC's POV to install the bugs, but it's also reasonable from the girls' POV to be furious/disappointed with him, as well as feeling he should be punished in some way for his actions.

Luna said it best when she caught MC with the following line:

"Still, you're sniffing around in my room, without my knowledge. That makes a a bit......mad. Can you blame me for that?"

He's got manipulation skills, yes, but previous times in situations where's he's caught being in the wrong, he's been lucky enough in which his offense wasn't that great (Cordia's office, looking for his contract), or his heart was in the right place (getting stuck in the cold storage room with Isabel & Gracie - here he's able to talk himself out of it by saying he "had the best of intentions for you girls").
Just can't see him talk himself out of this one where he is in the right.

Besides, perhaps this is just me, but if he gets in trouble and every time, the girls either forgive him or he can talk himself out of any consequences, I would just find the storytelling lacking in tension (and it wouldn't really make sense as well, considering the girls got punished with "beach prison" event with the whole exploding pink paint bomb in their bathroom, which is basically child's play compared to MC planting bugs in their rooms).

But even with punishments, I'm kinda getting the feeling it will be light (and not serious punishment), especially if it's audio recorder MC used (for cameras, probably something a bit worse). Probably like MC gets grounded for couple of days or something.

 

[c3p0]

I don't know about that. Luna was only forgiving to MC because she didn't see him plant the bug (all she thought he was doing was just snooping around, which in her mind wasn't too big of an offense). She probably wouldn't have been as understanding/forgiving if she was realizing he was planting bugs in her room.

I still think if MC gets caught (regarding the bugs, though whether bugs actually have impact on story or not is yet to be determined), he'll get some sort of punishment (or he would have to do something for the girls to make up for his actions as an alternative).
Sure, he can try to guilt-trip them saying he was targetted 3 times, but it doesn't change the fact he was spying on them.

It may have been reasonable in MC's POV to install the bugs, but it's also reasonable from the girls' POV to be furious/disappointed with him, as well as feeling he should be punished in some way for his actions.

Luna said it best when she caught MC with the following line:

"Still, you're sniffing around in my room, without my knowledge. That makes a a bit......mad. Can you blame me for that?"

He's got manipulation skills, yes, but previous times in situations where's he's caught being in the wrong, he's been lucky enough in which his offense wasn't that great (Cordia's office, looking for his contract), or his heart was in the right place (getting stuck in the cold storage room with Isabel & Gracie - here he's able to talk himself out of it by saying he "had the best of intentions for you girls").
Just can't see him talk himself out of this one where he is in the right.

Besides, perhaps this is just me, but if he gets in trouble and every time, the girls either forgive him or he can talk himself out of any consequences, I would just find the storytelling lacking in tension (and it wouldn't really make sense as well, considering the girls got punished with "beach prison" event with the whole exploding pink paint bomb in their bathroom, which is basically child's play compared to MC planting bugs in their rooms).

But even with punishments, I'm kinda getting the feeling it will be light (and not serious punishment), especially if it's audio recorder MC used (for cameras, probably something a bit worse). Probably like MC gets grounded for couple of days or something.

I think in the case of Luna, perhaps some personal mission for her "revenge arc".
For Gracie I don't know, as I said before, I think she will be more pissed at herself than at the MC to not see this "basic" move.
Isabel would be be furious, but with her, the question is what is real emotion and what is only an act.

Wilfred and Cordia know of the bugs, at least this is my understanding of this characters. Most likely Wilfred has encouraged us to implement them. As he seems something in the MC and use his power that the MC can fulfill the role he had for us.
You don't think he is the consigliere for nothing?

 

[msleomac]

My rank never goes beyond 4 and says "you reached max experience points for this version of the game" and also that a promotion is available but there is no promotion in the events page as i am assuming i need to be level 5. Played both with or without cheats. here is the save

I reached lvl 9 with cheats. Did you try reading the skill books and attempt every mission once? Promotion is in missions once you talk with the old man. I think its in special missions. Don't clearly remember since its been sometime since i played

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

My rank never goes beyond 4 and says "you reached max experience points for this version of the game" and also that a promotion is available but there is no promotion in the events page as i am assuming i need to be level 5. Played both with or without cheats. here is the save

Spoiler: Event log image

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

You need to meet your requirements first in the event log in order to proceed to your promotion.

 

[FranceToast]

All I know is I felt guilty as sin planting those bugs-I think I even mentioned it to HopesGaming back at the beginning!

 

[SuperLYC]

Bugs are rather small issues compared to other dangerous acts MC keeps doing. Fun to guess and watch what effects these potential dangers will have.
BTW, next release is 0.7.0? So this game only has 13 releases since July2018? Every release must has a good amount of contents but lt takes more than 2 months' waiting for a new release, right? (Right, patience)

 

[Ayhsel]

I'm not sure why everyone got so hung up on those bugs, I've seen the discussions that took place about them in the last couple of pages of the thread and as entertaining as all those scenarios were I sincerely doubt it will become as big of a deal as some imagine it. Aside from the fact that they were heavily used for the development of story progression. I also think a lot of the projected outcomes were selling the ladies short on their reasoning abilities.

Just like when Luna caught MC in her room after planting the bug, she accepted MC being there because she understood his motives. Something that seemed to be forgotten in all the arguments was MC's motives for planting them in the first place.

3 assassination attempts. While being under contract for the DeLuca's, in their care/custody/protection. In their car, at their dining room table, in their house! Sounds like one hell of a sympathy card to guilt trip any of them. Which after the event were you ask Wilfred about Luna's past, she gets angry with you and you follow Pops advice and pretend to be angry with her (Hell, Wilfred in all his scheming even supports that act like a real "bro" or it's just out of his curiosity to see you handle yourself with him you never know for sure...) ( This scene was pure gold by the way! Thanks Pops!)

Anyways, considering that "scene" and others we know our MC has "game" flavored with a certain degree of manipulation perhaps if need be. All that is speculation on the fact that the bugs will be found however. ( which I somehow doubt )

Now I also saw it suggested that the all knowing Wilfred might even know about the bugs in this case he could do the same ( be a bro ) and remove the bugs before they are found it's not something that I would put beyond him cause he seems to enjoy steering the MC into different situations or point you into certain directions cause he feels like you need to "grow" throughout the story he definitely "molds" you. Damn he is terrifying.

But hey, what ever will be will be. I can see Hopes enjoying all the speculation and having a lot fun actually writing it and have us all surprised. I just don't think it will be that soon.

(PS. Video camera's or go home pussies! simply cause of the fact how would you ever catch someone creeping around? planting false evidence setting someone up if there isn't a conversation taking place audio recordings are useless)

Yeah in those discussions I mostly made the same point, and to me the after reading and remembering that Wilfred does comment on everything else you buy it became a given that he knows, and if he knows Cordia probably knows, so even if one of the other wants to stir shit they would intervene, but I was meaning more on the Mc being "Okay, I trust you guys enough now to come clean about this", and being a shown of thrust for both parts, the family in accepting him in a higher position, and him accepting that they are not his enemies. Maybe this would be saved for a future Ranking though.

About Wilfred removing the bugs himself, I don't think that is how he works, is more likely that he would leave them for the Mc to do something about it, and then wait and see if the Mc can get out of whatever mess we put him through, and if not, then intervene with Cordia.

I don't know about that. Luna was only forgiving to MC because she didn't see him plant the bug (all she thought he was doing was just snooping around, which in her mind wasn't too big of an offense). She probably wouldn't have been as understanding/forgiving if she was realizing he was planting bugs in her room.

I still think if MC gets caught (regarding the bugs, though whether bugs actually have impact on story or not is yet to be determined), he'll get some sort of punishment (or he would have to do something for the girls to make up for his actions as an alternative).
Sure, he can try to guilt-trip them saying he was targetted 3 times, but it doesn't change the fact he was spying on them.

It may have been reasonable in MC's POV to install the bugs, but it's also reasonable from the girls' POV to be furious/disappointed with him, as well as feeling he should be punished in some way for his actions.

Luna said it best when she caught MC with the following line:

"Still, you're sniffing around in my room, without my knowledge. That makes a a bit......mad. Can you blame me for that?"

He's got manipulation skills, yes, but previous times in situations where's he's caught being in the wrong, he's been lucky enough in which his offense wasn't that great (Cordia's office, looking for his contract), or his heart was in the right place (getting stuck in the cold storage room with Isabel & Gracie - here he's able to talk himself out of it by saying he "had the best of intentions for you girls").
Just can't see him talk himself out of this one where he is in the right.

Besides, perhaps this is just me, but if he gets in trouble and every time, the girls either forgive him or he can talk himself out of any consequences, I would just find the storytelling lacking in tension (and it wouldn't really make sense as well, considering the girls got punished with "beach prison" event with the whole exploding pink paint bomb in their bathroom, which is basically child's play compared to MC planting bugs in their rooms).

But even with punishments, I'm kinda getting the feeling it will be light (and not serious punishment), especially if it's audio recorder MC used (for cameras, probably something a bit worse). Probably like MC gets grounded for couple of days or something.

This has been my assumption since the beginning:

Wilfred and Cordia straight up know about the bugs. Luna, Isabel, Gracie and Antonio don't.

I don't think at all either Wilfred or Cordia will help MC get out of the problem if they are found. It is his responsibility and if anything they will take advantage of the situation to teach MC a lesson. Not in the bad sense of teaching a lesson, but in the sense of letting him grow up more in what it means to be part of a mafia family: you know, unconditional trust to the members of the family, the family first policy or something like that.

Neither I think it will be a big deal. Obviously, the girl will feel betrayed or something, but it will not be something huge.