VN Ren'Py The Home of Pleasure [Ep.2 P3 v0.2.3] [Whispering Eye Games]

[Elduriel]

not a huge fan of the blackmail/crime stuff, but seems like it will be a relatively large part of the story going forward, so skipping all that will mean cutting out of a lot content per update (possibly new girls too?), so I'll probably just suck it up and play it. Not the end of the world. But I would be all for the police option for a quicker resolution of that plotline.

My concern is that going with the criminal stuff or the police one will definitely create two separate branches, which will definitely slow down the development of other stuff like relationship building, as it's a hard pivot in the story needing a lot of additional renders.

 

[AceTrainerRusty]

Well, it looks like the developer is going to make several choices regarding the criminal underworld:

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So we can probably avoid that part if we want.

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Thank you for trying to talk some sense into the dev.

 

[OptimusCrime]

I'm not saying you have to grow up IRL and live the life... but this dev doesn't understand a thing about criminals. Petty crime and street robberies is one thing, but what's been implied here is that there's a bit more organization to it, which means the criminals can't be that catastrophically stupid as we've seen 'cause they just wouldn't survive a week in operation without the cops sniffing them out.


It feels like this criminal stuff was thrown in as a 'Oh stories need conflict and this is all I really know that classifies as conflict'. The relationship stuff was great, I mean, most incest stories are pretty lame in that everyone around them is pretty understanding about it after an initial crashout, but there's a lot more you can do there to generate this conflict you want.


Dunno if the Dev views this forum or not, but it's pretty obvious everyone here is united (Which is a feat all of it's own) that the crime stuff is bad, and the sentiment here is usually a good gauge what the rest of the AVN player community would feel. This is an amazing game, Sophie is a top 10 li. Don't kill this fucking game because of stubbornness or lack of ability to reflect, admit a mistake and fix it.

 

[Avaron1974]

Seems some sense is being restored which is good.

It was about to turn from Home of Pleasure to House of Pain.

 

[Juerhullycin]

I think it’s fair to assume the MC benefits in the long run from his entry into the criminal world

How should that happen? He hits his head on a job and remembers that he is Frank Castle?

Or Dev makes a comedy out of it and everyone thinks MC is a total badass while he is in reality a total moron. No idea how he would get there, tho. Maybe Mikey and Vince stumble into a woodchipper, and they think MC did it. So they bring him in as a Hitman.

He does NOT have the temperament, the ruthlessness, nor the notoriety necessary to survive the criminal world. Realistically, he would be a lamb led to the slaughter, and Beth would be sold into prostitution.

This is as will probably happen in all reality, but you forgot Grace and Sophie because they will also get sold into prostitution.

I'm not saying you have to grow up IRL and live the life... but this dev doesn't understand a thing about criminals. Petty crime and street robberies is one thing, but what's been implied here is that there's a bit more organization to it, which means the criminals can't be that catastrophically stupid as we've seen 'cause they just wouldn't survive a week in operation without the cops sniffing them out.

so much this. The game plays in Britain, normal Cops aren't allowed to carry guns on duty. Any perceived leverage they had over MC was lost the moment they pulled weapons. What they showed him is sooooo much worse than anything MC or Beth could have done, even if they tried to burn down the shop. The gun alone makes sure they are fucked.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Thank you for trying to talk some sense into the dev.

You are welcome.

This is as will probably happen in all reality, but you forgot Grace and Sophie because they will also get sold into prostitution.

The developer is going to include an option to break up with Beth in the next update (if you've started a relationship with her). And I'm going to use it.

 

[Dessolos]

You are welcome.



The developer is going to include an option to break up with Beth in the next update (if you've started a relationship with her). And I'm going to use it.

i'm worried for when I play the game and get caught up now. Cause for me Sophia and Kate are my 2 favorites with Grace and Beth 2 I really like just not enough to call a favorite. Tho knowing me what she did isn't a big deal and i'll still like her or forgive her as im more forgiving / understanding than most people on this site

 

[Maviarab]

Thought I'd give this one a try. Please tell me the dev is not actually from the UK because...Jesus fucking christ.

Then we get to the dumbest plot of the 837 VN's I've tried so far. Fuck me...why, why the fuck do idiot fucking devs think they need drama and when they do, it has to be some stupid dumb fuck crime shit? I'm just...I just can't with this shit.

Someone do me a favour and let me know when it's all been resolved please and I'll give it another try.

 

[Elduriel]

Someone do me a favour and let me know when it's all been resolved please and I'll give it another try.

ain't happening I'm afraid (at least quickly)...

 

[Pirilampalharei]

Thought I'd give this one a try. Please tell me the dev is not actually from the UK because...Jesus fucking christ.

Then we get to the dumbest plot of the 837 VN's I've tried so far. Fuck me...why, why the fuck do idiot fucking devs think they need drama and when they do, it has to be some stupid dumb fuck crime shit? I'm just...I just can't with this shit.

Someone do me a favour and let me know when it's all been resolved please and I'll give it another try.

I blame Hollywood. And above all I blame CW. Drama for the sake of drama, with the most nonsensical decisions that not even a moron on drugs would do. Akin to the "Horror" movie tropes (BTW the only horror there is the atrocious writing).

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I loved the game up until then, was about to write a glowing review of it. Then "Bam" in one fell swoop, the whole thing went out in flames.

So, yeah, I blame WGA and ALL the stupid tropes that brought this on.

Now there's a possibility that anyone with a functioning brain may be able to ignore that nonsense and carry on with what was REALLY good in this game, the relationships. I'll reserve the fireworks to when we can see if it is true or not.

The sheer waste of having a GEM of a game and destroy it for "Drama"...

 

[YogSothoth1982]

ain't happening I'm afraid (at least quickly)...
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Thought I'd give this one a try. Please tell me the dev is not actually from the UK because...Jesus fucking christ.

Then we get to the dumbest plot of the 837 VN's I've tried so far. Fuck me...why, why the fuck do idiot fucking devs think they need drama and when they do, it has to be some stupid dumb fuck crime shit? I'm just...I just can't with this shit.

Someone do me a favour and let me know when it's all been resolved please and I'll give it another try.

In the next update, the blackmail part ends, and we'll be able to choose between continuing in the world of crime, allying ourselves with the police to try to destroy them, or forget about it all and continue playing the game as the slice of life it originally was. So to finish all this you need to wait until the next update comes out.

I blame Hollywood. And above all I blame CW. Drama for the sake of drama, with the most nonsensical decisions that not even a moron on drugs would do. Akin to the "Horror" movie tropes (BTW the only horror there is the atrocious writing).

Spoiler: Beth

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I loved the game up until then, was about to write a glowing review of it. Then "Bam" in one fell swoop, the whole thing went out in flames.

So, yeah, I blame WGA and ALL the stupid tropes that brought this on.

Now there's a possibility that anyone with a functioning brain may be able to ignore that nonsense and carry on with what was REALLY good in this game, the relationships. I'll reserve the fireworks to when we can see if it is true or not.

The sheer waste of having a GEM of a game and destroy it for "Drama"...

For me, the only consecuence of the blackmail plot is to make Beth stop being a LI. This is certainly an original way to burn down a LI, but that doesn't make it any better. In fact, it's quite sad that a LI that promised so much ended this way.

 

[katabasi]

the whole robbery thing is so bad for this type of game
i almost deleted the game on the spot
please scrap it

 

[christophe]

Android version please

 

[Look-see]

In the next update, the blackmail part ends, and we'll be able to choose between continuing in the world of crime, allying ourselves with the police to try to destroy them, or forget about it all and continue playing the game as the slice of life it originally was. So to finish all this you need to wait until the next update comes out.



For me, the only consecuence of the blackmail plot is to make Beth stop being a LI. This is certainly an original way to burn down a LI, but that doesn't make it any better. In fact, it's quite sad that a LI that promised so much ended this way.

honestly i dont mind a game with organized crime as long as thats the main premise of the game(and as long as the tags are to my taste).

shifting genres in the middle of a game seems to be the issue here. if dev wants to try his hand at a crime/drama game i say go for it. but go for it on his next game. easy way to resolve the current story. MC finds out the thugs aren't as expanded as they claim to be and it really is just those handful of thugs, call the cops then boom! done.

 

[reandis]

The Home of Pleasure [Ep.2 P3 v0.2.3] [Whispering Eye Games]

Android >> COMPRESSED

Extras: option to change the opacity of the dialog box and the font size.

Note. It probably won't work on older Android versions. I tested it on Android 14, and it worked.

SIZE ~ 720 MB

Download: Pixeldrain

Hello, there seems to be a bug in the android version when I go to save for the first time. It pops up a error which I can roll back from or ignore, but going further even hitting the menu button brings it back up.

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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/screens.rpy", line 613, in execute
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Exception: Imagebutton does not have a idle image. (auto='images/mobile//icons/delete_%s.png').

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Full traceback:
  File "_layout/screen_load_save.rpymc", line 35, in script
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 823, in execute
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1178, in py_exec_bytecode
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  File "renpy/ui.py", line 301, in interact
  File "renpy/display\core.py", line 2165, in interact
  File "renpy/display\core.py", line 2687, in interact_core
  File "renpy/display\displayable.py", line 431, in visit_all
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  File "renpy/ui.py", line 950, in _imagebutton
  File "renpy/ui.py", line 944, in choice
Exception: Imagebutton does not have a idle image. (auto='images/mobile//icons/delete_%s.png').

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[isopoika69]

I fel like branching the story in multiple paths with this blackmail/crime stuff will turn the game into an eternity project and every update will give each branch very little content. updates will be like "one scene for this path and 1 for this path and one for this path. enjoy your 30 minutes of content and have fun waiting for months for next 30 minutes of content"

 

[Elduriel]

I fel like branching the story in multiple paths with this blackmail/crime stuff will turn the game into an eternity project and every update will give each branch very little content. updates will be like "one scene for this path and 1 for this path and one for this path. enjoy your 30 minutes of content and have fun waiting for months for next 30 minutes of content"

pretty much how it usually goes for games that have very different branches

 

[Pirilampalharei]

pretty much how it usually goes for games that have very different branches

I agree. The paths will differ significantly, to the point that they would be 2 different games. I fail to see the point of that. It would be much better to make 2 games, instead of destroying one to make it into something no one asked for.

I also flinch at what the "debauchery" means when paired with unwillingly. This seems like a recipe for non-con content with no limits. Also the setting up of the MC as a perpetual victim follows a pattern that screams content I really don't want to see.

So, even if the "crime" path will become optional, with the unspoken possibilities of extreme non-con content, this game will HAVE to include all that as Tags. What a phenomenally stupid idea that is.

I am so fucking sad about this, I adored Sophie, really was starting to love Grace, Beth was becoming interesting, Angela stood as a nice goal, Kate was awesome, now this all goes into the Tag hell of non-con.

What a waste, what a heartbreaking waste...

 

[AceTrainerRusty]

I agree. The paths will differ significantly, to the point that they would be 2 different games. I fail to see the point of that. It would be much better to make 2 games, instead of destroying one to make it into something no one asked for.

I also flinch at what the "debauchery" means when paired with unwillingly. This seems like a recipe for non-con content with no limits. Also the setting up of the MC as a perpetual victim follows a pattern that screams content I really don't want to see.

So, even if the "crime" path will become optional, with the unspoken possibilities of extreme non-con content, this game will HAVE to include all that as Tags. What a phenomenally stupid idea that is.

I am so fucking sad about this, I adored Sophie, really was starting to love Grace, Beth was becoming interesting, Angela stood as a nice goal, Kate was awesome, now this all goes into the Tag hell of non-con.

What a waste, what a heartbreaking waste...

Money talks. The fans of that stuff know that it's niche and therefore has to be worth it to the dev to abandon a larger audience. So they fork out the money to convince devs to cater to them.

 

[Dessolos]

Money talks. The fans of that stuff know that it's niche and therefore has to be worth it to the dev to abandon a larger audience. So they fork out the money to convince devs to cater to them.

Depends on the dev and if they give a shit about money or just want to create something. If I was a dev in this niche genre id just make the game I want and not give a shit about what people like or dislike. id see the money as something secondary especially since it's hard to make good money in this genre of gaming.