The lack of effort from Ai CG Game Devs

[murgichor]

I don’t give a shit if someone uses AI for their CGs not everyone’s an artist and not everyone can afford to hire one. Fair enough, I get that. Use AI however the hell you want, that’s not the problem.
What pisses me off is the complete lack of effort most of these devs put into literally everything else. The coding? Half-assed. The mechanics? Nonexistent or just a grind-fest. The story? Might as well not even be there. And because of that, unlocking CGs doesn’t feel rewarding at all. It’s either instant gallery viewer trash or two hours of boring, pointless grind just to get a single still image.
It honestly feels like these devs don’t even bother to research the market they’re trying to sell to. Even the worst rated Human made game is better than the highest tier Ai slop on this site. Trust me, as a Professional Gooner I have tried them all. Porn game or not, people can tell when you actually care. Put in that extra effort, make the grind worth it, make the story hit and players will remember your game. That’s the difference between forgettable shovelware and something people talk about for years.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

Shocker.

 

[MissCougar]

I'd be curious what the percentage of these games is to the amount that launch with an immediate patreon or patreon locked content.

I think one of the factors is the theory of blood in the water for devs spotting a sudden new hit with players.

I think the most common one is now the mobile phone format, which has been attacked with a proliferation gusto. I think the bar to entry is low, the requirements on good dialog is low, and you effectively need to integrate a module or look into your engine of choice and customize it and then go to town. Fill it up with bad English and an occasional CG and you are hauling with the other popular clones in the genre.

 

[Icarus Media]

Clankers taking our jobs!

 

[Icarus Media]

Shocker.

No that's when you put two in the pink and one in the stink.

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

No that's when you put two in the pink and one in the stink.

You a fan of the show stopper or lady dropper?

 

[Icarus Media]

You a fan of the show stopper or lady dropper?

Nah try Bowling Ball or the Bohemian Snap.

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[forgetmaster]

I don’t give a shit if someone uses AI for their CGs not everyone’s an artist and not everyone can afford to hire one. Fair enough, I get that. Use AI however the hell you want, that’s not the problem.
What pisses me off is the complete lack of effort most of these devs put into literally everything else. The coding? Half-assed. The mechanics? Nonexistent or just a grind-fest. The story? Might as well not even be there. And because of that, unlocking CGs doesn’t feel rewarding at all. It’s either instant gallery viewer trash or two hours of boring, pointless grind just to get a single still image.
It honestly feels like these devs don’t even bother to research the market they’re trying to sell to. Even the worst rated Human made game is better than the highest tier Ai slop on this site. Trust me, as a Professional Gooner I have tried them all. Porn game or not, people can tell when you actually care. Put in that extra effort, make the grind worth it, make the story hit and players will remember your game. That’s the difference between forgettable shovelware and something people talk about for years.

Everything that you said is valid even if you remove everything about AI in here.
But in their defense AI art is still relatively new, hard to be consistant and reliable, especially when using open source free software.
A big thing to consider about AI art games is that most of these people would have never thought about ever making a game if their wasn't ai art to make them try.
Early Unity or Unreal games were trash too, and the condition was same then, many amateur devs who would have never made a game, tried making it because new tools made it easier, and if that mean even more than half of the new gen games are trash, it's better for the game dev community, just to try, good or straight garbage.
Our job is to give critical feedback, constructive if possible

 

[forgetmaster]

Clankers taking our jobs!

I wanna fuck a FutaClanker Mommy, I want her to dock our cocks together and control my mind putting me in eternal bliss.
I am 80% sure this will be possible within 20years

 

[MissCougar]

No that's when you put two in the pink and one in the stink.

The highway to another fun yeast infection!

 

[MissCougar]

Everything that you said is valid even if you remove everything about AI in here.
But in their defense AI art is still relatively new, hard to be consistant and reliable, especially when using open source free software.
A big thing to consider about AI art games is that most of these people would have never thought about ever making a game if their wasn't ai art to make them try.
Early Unity or Unreal games were trash too, and the condition was same then, many amateur devs who would have never made a game, tried making it because new tools made it easier, and if that mean even more than half of the new gen games are trash, it's better for the game dev community, just to try, good or straight garbage.
Our job is to give critical feedback, constructive if possible

I am 110% fine with this. I love people learning and using tools that enable them to go beyond their normal means, especially at cost.

With the exception being you immediately created a Patreon. That kind of tells me your innocent learning game developer story is more or less focused on money and sponging a gullible community for anything you can get from them. Additionally the percentage likelihood of your project completing is probably in the single digits.

 

[Saerwen]

What's absurd is that they ask for money for a demo on Patreon.

 

[MissCougar]

What's absurd is that they ask for money for a demo on Patreon.

When you mix a lack of talent with incurable greed, nothing good ever comes from it. You just wreck the mood of unknowing players.

But if you go down this path, the likelihood you give a damn about optics, player experience, or the feelings/impact of a community or genre aren't going to be high.

You want to make a quick buck. And that's fine. If people pay for it, that's also fine. No harm no foul, but it will make the job of the next people after you harder because now there are seeds of mistrust for that particular thing. But hey, you got you $50 or something so to hell with everyone else.

 

[forgetmaster]

With the exception being you immediately created a Patreon

What's absurd is that they ask for money for a demo on Patreon.

I hear yall, but I cant really blame or defend them, Even though I believe free demos give more spotlight to small games and more money in the long run, I know it may seem like a cash grab for us, but many devs are young, unfunded, and we dont know which corner of Timbuktu they are making it from, where even our daily coffee will make their week.
Again, not defending the low effort cashgrabs, but its not always as black and white.

 

[Winterfire]

I think you just played the wrong ones, there are some high rated AI games that are doing fairly good, such as: https://f95zone.to/threads/inanna-revenge-ep-2-atemx-games.238419/ or https://f95zone.to/threads/imperial-bureaucracy-hero-v0-2-91-munitions-mori.109116/

 

[MissCougar]

I hear yall, but I cant really blame or defend them, Even though I believe free demos give more spotlight to small games and more money in the long run, I know it may seem like a cash grab for us, but many devs are young, unfunded, and we dont know which corner of Timbuktu they are making it from, where even our daily coffee will make their week.
Again, not defending the low effort cashgrabs, but its not always as black and white.

Yup. I totally understand that.

But I think where I would draw the line is "a game I always wanted to make and am now going to try to do, support me in my efforts people!" and "looks like the phone game genre is banging off, going to jump on that money while the jumping is good."

And like I said, if people buy it, no problem! You get yours they get theirs. No harm no foul.

But the result is stuff like this, where someone making their passion project and it happens to be a phone game is shut out because bad options from the other 50 people who jumped on it and wrecked the market.

It's all ok, pick your poison to support or not.

 

[eaudecologne]

I don’t give a shit if someone uses AI for their CGs not everyone’s an artist and not everyone can afford to hire one. Fair enough, I get that. Use AI however the hell you want, that’s not the problem.
What pisses me off is the complete lack of effort most of these devs put into literally everything else. The coding? Half-assed. The mechanics? Nonexistent or just a grind-fest. The story? Might as well not even be there. And because of that, unlocking CGs doesn’t feel rewarding at all. It’s either instant gallery viewer trash or two hours of boring, pointless grind just to get a single still image.
It honestly feels like these devs don’t even bother to research the market they’re trying to sell to. Even the worst rated Human made game is better than the highest tier Ai slop on this site. Trust me, as a Professional Gooner I have tried them all. Porn game or not, people can tell when you actually care. Put in that extra effort, make the grind worth it, make the story hit and players will remember your game. That’s the difference between forgettable shovelware and something people talk about for years.

Grrr im angry too. I scroll the updates as is my daily ritual and among the carefully crafted gems I see it - the glossy finish on the anime girls buttcheeks and it hits me this is god damn ai slop again. I quietly mutter all the curses I know on this foul technology and the slop peddlers and close the tab, my mood now completely soured.

 

[forgetmaster]

https://f95zone.to/threads/inanna-revenge-ep-2-atemx-games.238419/

I dont get how this is AI art? looks like 3d renders

 

[murgichor]

Everything that you said is valid even if you remove everything about AI in here.
But in their defense AI art is still relatively new, hard to be consistant and reliable, especially when using open source free software.
A big thing to consider about AI art games is that most of these people would have never thought about ever making a game if their wasn't ai art to make them try.
Early Unity or Unreal games were trash too, and the condition was same then, many amateur devs who would have never made a game, tried making it because new tools made it easier, and if that mean even more than half of the new gen games are trash, it's better for the game dev community, just to try, good or straight garbage.
Our job is to give critical feedback, constructive if possible

Like I said, effort always shows in the work. Even in rough Unity/Unreal games, you can tell the dev at least tried to put something into it. I’m not someone who demands perfection either, I even play janky games from Katsuo Festival and one of their titles has been sitting in my request list for months on my profile.
What bothers me is when games come out looking completely void of care or effort, especially when they’re just propped up by AI CGs. That’s the real flood I’m pointing at. All I’m asking is that devs put in some effort to make their games fun. That’s my one constructive feedback.

 

[forgetmaster]

Grrr im angry too. I scroll the updates as is my daily ritual and among the carefully crafted gems I see it - the glossy finish on the anime girls buttcheeks and it hits me this is god damn ai slop again. I quietly mutter all the curses I know on this foul technology and the slop peddlers and close the tab, my mood now completely soured.

You can just disable aicg tag when you scroll through updates