VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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xapican

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Realistically they had 3 options
1) Don’t have kids
2) Raise your kids as if they’re going to be Templars - don’t force them but be honest and prepare / train them
3) Leave the Templars behind once you have kids

Instead they took a completely selfish and irresponsible path that accomplished the worst outcome
No, that are only 3 options which you approve, and are right from your point of view, and acording to your belives.
There are a lot more of options, as you see in the descitons the partys took.
 
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Pixillin'

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No, that are only 3 options which you approve, and are right from your point of view, and acording to your belives.
There are a lot more of options, as you see in the descitons the partys took.
You mean the decisions that resulted in an attempt on their son's life - the one who is no longer speaking to them, and is now hanging out with the Alfir and wondering how he can destroy the Templars as an organization. Yeah, their way worked out great.
 

Knightcvel

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Yes, but that doesn't mean his dad didn't taught him and his sister the basics, and you can be the Best Warrior or Killer , till you get killed, the point is he has at least a small chance to survive, and the right mindset.
that is more than a normal civilian would have, at their disposal in such a situation.
Edited: took out a too personal question .
You are not taking in account that MC has a huge hidden potetisl that could be fully developed by tge time he reached adulthood. It's not a question of becoming a templar but of becoming what he is fated to be.
 

xapican

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You mean the decisions that resulted in an attempt on their son's life - the one who is no longer speaking to them, and is now hanging out with the Alfir and wondering how he can destroy the Templars as an organization. Yeah, their way worked out great.
You the son in your Game.
Play like as you like, just there are other people with other situational perception.
Good thing is that the whole game offers the player the liberty to play the story at his own leisure ;)
And it is not that I don't see your points, (from your perspective) all valid and understandable.
I see some things different and my character is different, which I was trying to show you in the last 30 0r 40 pages.
abrazo.
 

xapican

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You are not taking in account that MC has a huge hidden potetisl that could be fully developed by tge time he reached adulthood. It's not a question of becoming a templar but of becoming what he is fated to be.
Well, you have a point, although neither the MC nor his father knew about his potential, this is something that we the spectators se from outside, and to discover and use this potential to become what ever he is fated is up to him (or us as we play that character).
 

Knightcvel

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Well, you have a point, although neither the MC nor his father knew about his potential, this is something that we the spectators se from outside, and to discover and use this potential to become what ever he is fated is up to him (or us as we play that character).
Actually I believe his potential is the reason for the secrecy. He is not their son and they have choosen to keep the supernatural a secret so that he doesn't develop anything and the council put him under close vigilance to sound an alarm if he ever manifests his powers.
 
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Pixillin'

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Actually I believe his potential is the reason for the secrecy. He is not their son and choose to keep the supernatural a secret so that he doesn't develop anything and the council put him under close vigilante to sound an alarm if he ever manifests his powers.
That is entirely possible, though if it's true it means that they are still lying to him and the MC has even more reason to hate them (his parents and the Templars).
 

Knightcvel

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That is entirely possible, though if it's true it means that they are still lying to him and the MC has even more reason to hate them (his parents and the Templars).
The concept is called plausible deniability. They cover the truth with a lie and if the truth partially emerges they cover again with another lie. It's a concept created by CIA operatives. It also means that MC has powers to be a game changer and is dangerous beyond belief.
 
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Pixillin'

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The concept is called plausible deniability. They cover tge truth with a lie and if the truth partially emergência they cover again with another lie. It's a concept created by CIA operatives. It also means that MC has powers to be a game changer and is dangerous beyond belief.
It's still a lie, no matter what you call it. Being dangerous beyond belief would be fun though.
 
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xapican

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Actually I believe his potential is the reason for the secrecy. He is not their son and they have choosen to keep the supernatural a secret so that he doesn't develop anything and the council put him under close vigilance to sound an alarm if he ever manifests his powers.
I suspect something like that, yeah, My guess would be that he is one of the offspring of Medbs childhood friend, as we learned if you live in Alfarheimer, for a period of time the Magic starts manifesting in you.
so we shall see.
 
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War Lizard

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At least the Templars didn't try to kill the MC instead of saying hello, like that bitch Finn.

Oh, my bad, I should be addressing her by her proper title: Dead Bitch Finn. :giggle:
Aw c'mon. A woman trying to kill you is mostly just flirtation. I'm very sad about it and hope to get revenge but at least she's a fond memory - unlike Honeytrap Kajia sucking dicks for info down in Neverwhere.
 
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yossa999

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Aw c'mon. A woman trying to kill you is mostly just flirtation. I'm very sad about it and hope to get revenge but at least she's a fond memory - unlike Honeytrap Kajia sucking dicks for info down in Neverwhere.
If her attempt to kill me is flirtation, then beheading her in a duel is an orgasm. Such a lewd game!

And I got the impression that it was rather the regulars of Neverwhere who sucked Kaija's dick for the right to provide her with information. For example, Chet Pussy immediately became nervous as soon as he saw her.

However, it doesn't matter, this is an adult game, everyone sucking dicks here, and you said this like it's something bad.
 

Rehwyn

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You mean the decisions that resulted in an attempt on their son's life
Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that having mercs called on the children of Templar Grandmasters is not the norm. Remember that until very recently, Hellspawn hadn't been encountered in a long time and the conflict with the Alfar had been at a low simmer, comparatively. So when MC's parents were making their decision, they likely had little reason to believe their children would face a threat of that nature.

I'm not saying they necessarily made the right decision, but I think a lot of people saying the parents should have known and prepared them are looking at it from the perspective of the current conflict which we see in the story and not what had occurred in the decades (or longer) leading up to it.

P.S. You might be thinking about how you can destroy the Templars, but the dev has said the MC will stay "neutral" so I doubt MC is thinking that destructively.
 
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Wizardas

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AHA! So "she" is a man!
Those damn cheekbones and jawline can't fool me! I knew she had a dick from the moment I looked at her face! Bet you "her" Adam's Apple is prominent too!
Compared to you all women are men. Could you disappear somewhere before this gets weird?
 

Pixillin'

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Hindsight is 20/20 and all that. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that having mercs called on the children of Templar Grandmasters is not the norm. Remember that until very recently, Hellspawn hadn't been encountered in a long time and the conflict with the Alfar had been at a low simmer, comparatively. So when MC's parents were making their decision, they likely had little reason to believe their children would face a threat of that nature.

I'm not saying they necessarily made the right decision, but I think a lot of people saying the parents should have known and prepared them are looking at it from the perspective of the current conflict which we see in the story and not what had occurred in the decades (or longer) leading up to it.

P.S. You might be thinking about how you can destroy the Templars, but the dev has said the MC will stay "neutral" so I doubt MC is thinking that destructively.
The Hellspawn and Alfar things might be new, but the Templars always have enemies - they talk about how understaffed they always are and how they can't deal with all of the threats because they don't have enough people. All of the Templars enemies will know who MC is but MC has no idea who they are, or even that they exist. That is not 'protecting him' that's leaving him in the wind.


AHA! So "she" is a man!

Those damn cheekbones and jawline can't fool me! I knew she had a dick from the moment I looked at her face! Bet you "her" Adam's Apple is prominent too!
Well, after months and months of debates and arguments, I'm glad that we've finally established that Kajia is a male prostitute.
 

Rehwyn

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The Hellspawn and Alfar things might be new, but the Templars always have enemies - they talk about how understaffed they always are and how they can't deal with all of the threats because they don't have enough people. All of the Templars enemies will know who MC is but MC has no idea who they are, or even that they exist. That is not 'protecting him' that's leaving him in the wind.
Even if there have always been threats, I hope we can agree that the recent events are a dramatic shift in terms of threat level from the circumstances leading up to it.

Again, not saying keeping him in the dark was the right decision, just that it's biased to only consider it from the position of the current state.
 
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