Seeking The perfect balance in NTR games

[BlackFoxEv]

First of all, I want to apologize for my English. Day by day I try to learn and improve, but I depend a lot on the translator.


I have seen a similar thread, but it is not exactly what I am looking for, let me explain:

Being evident that there are many tastes and there will be an audience for those who like the point of view of the cuckold, the unfaithful woman or the lover, I am more interested in talking and learning about games that deal with the "slow corruption" aspects with a good animation.

I do not expect much less games with a level of CG animation where practically everything is animated, but Summer memories or Summer color, which are practically in 2D do a great job with animations with very few resources.

For exemple:

De NTRMAN:
Rural homecoming: He is too old a lover for the protagonist, although the animation is very good (like everything NTRMAN does)
Adelaide 1 and 2: It would be delicious if the woman did not give herself so easily. Enjoy indulging in an old farmer and a bastard knight. There is no internal conflict and therefore there is nothing to lose.
Mother lessons: It begins well, with a mother who doubts and has a conflict with herself, although she lacks some resistance to
my taste. I would have enjoyed a lot if he gave himself up to other classmates or bullys and escalated the perversion like NTRMAN has done in the short of babysitter in the pool.


Kagura games:
Summer Shattering/colour: Many options, options to see the CGs over and over again comfortably, it would have been better if the scenes were animated and the protagonist was not delivered so easily (all stories sin the same)
Saint emiliana: I'm starting it and I can't talk much, but I don't like the combat mechanics too much ... Although it has good animations for breaking contract with succubes.
Tina_Swordswoman: It's not about NTR but about rape and prostitution, although I love the "strong" leads, it could have been much better.

Other owners:
Summer memories: I don't dislike the shota, but only when the protagonist shows mental and sexual maturity ... Too bad the teenager is effeminate ... And motion animations are lacking. 2d sex is very good.
NTR Legend: It's okay, although it lacks history.
Pink reiko: The movement and gameplay is weird, although it has several CG's at the beginning that are quite morbid ... Too bad the story and the dialogues spoil it.
Karryns prison (Not NTR) : It has hooked me just to know how the story continues, although the CG mechanics are repetitive for battles that are too long ... Even in the easy level it takes a long time and sometimes you will have to restart the game.


------------

I would appreciate a lot if anyone knew about new titles, be they UNITY or mechanical RPG that are NTR, with good CG and good story. I no longer know where else to look.

 

[Kratos_GhostofSparta]

Till now the only ntr game that I felt is balanced is A Struggle with a sin, the character's gets currupted very slowly and reason for their curruption is also make sense. The good thing about this game is it treats NTR as punishment yet you can play a lot with it. I would definately recommend you that game.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

I thought Mother Lessons had a typical Japanese-style female victim that I've really come to dislike. Basically any real person in her place, anywhere in the world, would have told the little shit to get out of her house for perving on her. Why are these characters in H-games such weak-minded pushovers?

Is Karryn's Prison NTR? I don't know. Sure, she is a simp for her dear emperor but I got the feeling it's mostly one-sided.

 

[BlackFoxEv]

Till now the only ntr game that I felt is balanced is A Struggle with a sin, the character's gets currupted very slowly and reason for their curruption is also make sense. The good thing about this game is it treats NTR as punishment yet you can play a lot with it. I would definately recommend you that game.

wow! Thanks! That sound very well!

 

[BlackFoxEv]

I thought Mother Lessons had a typical Japanese-style female victim that I've really come to dislike. Basically any real person in her place, anywhere in the world, would have told the little shit to get out of her house for perving on her. Why are these characters in H-games such weak-minded pushovers?

Is Karryn's Prison NTR? I don't know. Sure, she is a simp for her dear emperor but I got the feeling it's mostly one-sided.

Yes, that's a good problem with that kind of story. I love NTR, but generally because the woman deep down wants to sin. It is playing with the woman's temptation and giving her excuses that are too good to fall into temptation, not arriving without any kind of good reasoning and saying: You are very sexy and erotic. Do you want to fuck with me? I am your son's friend.

 

[Deleted member 2466386]

Have you tried Leanna's Slice of Life by Acerola? Its whole game is about NTR but you can also play a virgin route too.

 

[Neo Nocturne]

I tried...I guess I just don't understand the first post already. Couldn't help much here...back to the chopper.

I will just try to sum up everything and list out all the criteria you are looking for. See if I miss anything (if I am right, just use my quote to seek whatever you are asking for).

You are looking for your perfect NTR game with the following conditions:
1. A strong female MC
2. No ugly bastards
3. Prefers 2D Animations to 2D CGs
4. Avoid having fake shota who are sexually proactive
5. Plot must be logical and realistic
6. Avoid grinding
7. A simple and short non-repetative combat system

I just hope I didn't get it wrong.

 

[Sonozaki230]

I was playing recently this kind of games and i find some good Visual Novel, it isnt the best NTR Visual Novel but that was so hot.
Boku Mama x Tomo Mama Koukan Hameppu Life
This game is so good, the history its ejoyable and its ShotaXMilf + Incest + NTR, i think that NTR its balanced too.

 

[Ryhen00]

umm no one mentioned A wife and mother? sure it still not have ntr tag now but surely go thatbway

 

[g5s1y3]

wow! Thanks! That sound very well!

 

[ossi06]

I only want to give suggestions to that theme.
Cheating is usually an historical psychological development. Good examples are the stories of vulgus, some of illustrated interracial (wife pride is the same as mosquitoman's Bakunyuu Tsuma Namatamari Kyouko - don't know who's the remaker) or cuckold confession. As Vulgus explains (I think the same), the interesting point is where a woman recognizes her change from following her former rules, education, moralities and accept sluttyness as new freedom and lifestyle and the struggle between her now new needs and the tasks she had in raising children and the still existing love to her partner.
The balance of ntr in this meaning is how to destroy the former barriers in slow steps. Only to take force is easy but boring (to me), blackmailing a bit better. A good game in this direction is Tsuma no niku ana ni Homestay...(Animm-team). The point is to convince or awake not to prostitute by force.
Only my opinions

 

[JesterAI]

Back to topic, balance is hard

It feels like most promising NTR games never get developed to the point where they're rewarding. Like the games are always ABOUT to be hot and are just always building up.

Or, the woman sees one dick randomly and starts dripping and masturbating on the spot.

I would benchmark balance as being centered around four events.

Event 1- introduction of characters. Example, Memorial Day picnic somewhere. Wife and husband meet with husband's friends. We get to know the protagonists a little bit and the antagonist is given a personality type. Antagonist admires wife, subtly flirts.

Event 2- follow up event of some type, e.g., the husband needs help building a deck and invites the antagonist over. It's hot outside and dude takes his shirt off and works on the deck for a while, comes inside for something to drink, wife is excited looking at him.

Event 3- everyone goes out for drinks, physical flirting accelerates, maybe wife's butt bumps into antagonist and lingers, and he starts subtly groping her throughout the night. When noone is looking, they may share a short kiss.

Event 4- 4th of July party, maybe while the fireworks are going off and husband is looking for wife, she's banging the antagonist in the car or something.

Event 5- Becomes more explicit, antagonist basically comes over and bangs the wife, it is extremely difficult for anyone to deny everyone knows about the affair

Event 6- It is out of the open and wife no longer cares if husband knows.

After that event arc, it is important to reset the scenario and establish a new event arc. Event 7 can't be just the wife having sex with another random friend, there is no tension and buildup. So start over, introduce the new antagonist, have a faster buildup event, and a more intense climax and resolution.

Balance is tricky for sure!

 

[Trickstar]

Look at it this way, mate, this is a forum, where we can and should express our opinion. I don't however, go to games with the NTR tag to complain, I just avoid them, but the thing is, even if I don't plenty of people do, and they always will. I'm sorry only a minority likes your fetish while the majority hates it enough to voice it constantly. And look at the bright side, most people into NTR know that it's pathetic, so calling them freaks is probably as arousing as the disgusting stuff they are into, I mean, would someone into scat be offended because you call them shit eaters?

Imagine, you are so triggered about my opinion that you even go and look into my history of posts to complain about games I like, and then some "people" get surprised about NTR hate and the people into it, lol.

Also, I'm a game developer, I live off of making porn games. But it really seems pointless to talk with someone when points go right over your head, I mean, you said it yourself, NTR needs context, and context is something that doesn't change with mere options, at least not something well written.

Here's the thing, my whole point is that NTR games should stay to themselves. That may not stop completely all the criticism and harassment, that will never happen no matter what you do, but it would greatly reduce it. It helps in japan, where there was once a case where a game introduced NTR elements which resulted in the developer's studio suffering a terrorist attack. I'm not justifying it, but they learned to keep that thing away from everything else, as it should be.

I fail to see how it is being triggered to take a 5 second look at your posts to just check if you are a hypocrite about calling people freaks and say something is wrong with them about fetishes.

Also the fact you pretend to "not justify" a terrorist attack yet heavily imply that they deserved it because they added NTR elements to a game and needed to learn to keep it away from everything else is fucking insane.

 

[hakarlman]

Just curious,

The perfect balance of what? I read your original post.

Are you talking about the perfect balance between slow buildup & animation vs actual sex scenes?

Perfect balance between NTR and Non-NTR?

Perfect balance between what elements?

 

[Ghostboy031]

I Enjoy competitive NTR, where both the MC and another guy can get a girl (or multiple) and do so in competitive way which isn't necessarily NTR. A good example of this is Battle of the Bulges where you can both get the girls but it gives you incentive to choose between who you go for

 

[AnonymousUnique123]

Damn I just wrote a long ass reply to Amazon king and only really want to somehow convince him to move on from his blind hate for NTR or anyone who tolerates it. because it's in the extreme end,
I thought I can wrap things up with my last reply and get closer to harmony or atleast make it normal amount of hate and then BAM! your post was deleted, cleaning up NTR argument. LMAO
(my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined)

 

[AmazonessKing]

It's alright, it's just another NTR thread that really won't change anything and people will keep hating on it.

Back to the topic, there's no possible balance in NTR. A game is either NTR or it isn't.

 

[Panther H]

I don't play much NTR, but I found Leane 2 to be pretty good. Your girls have their first times forcefully taken and also impregnated by the king (you're not the king in case it wasn't obvious). Both you and the girl simply accept it as some divine right. If you play correctly you can also prevent the king from getting ANY of your girls. You can't make a harem yourself which kinda sucks but is understandable. The 2 non-NTR scenes I've seen are kinda meh unfortunately. Also, the bad endings kinda suck. There's also a system where your girls can be captured by the enemy and then raped and impregnated as well, but I didn't touch that at all.